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EC 108 pg beauty...

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ZItat fl0und3rz:

Beautiful!

151. While in possession of the waterfall matrix provided on March 22, Appaloosa engaged in WMI securities trades on March 29 and March 30; Centerbridge engaged in trading on multiple dates from March 29 through May 15; Aurelius was trading on multiple dates from April 7 through May 7; and Owl Creek was trading on multiple dates from March 29 through April 21. (Tr. 7/20 at 156; AOC 54; AU 8; EC 131.)

202. In retrospect, and in light of the evidence that has surfaced since the December 2010 plan confirmation hearing, it is now apparent that the Debtors’ efforts to investigate and potentially litigate Business Tort Claims against JPMC were simply window-dressing, perhaps intended to keep just enough heat on JPMC to help push the SNH-directed settlement process to consummation sooner rather than later, but not more than that. We now know that while the Debtors were in this Court in January 2010 arguing for additional investigative authority under Rule 2004, they had already transmitted to JPMC a detailed draft settlement agreement, having reached agreements in principle on the resolution of virtually all major issues – the Disputed Accounts, the Tax Refunds, the ownership of the TPS and the Goodwill Litigation, and so on. This Court did not know about those agreements, nor did the public, but the SNHs did.

203. No one involved in the process was looking out for the interests of shareholders or genuinely attempting to maximize the value of the estates for the benefit of all parties. To the contrary, by January 2010, equity was viewed by the Debtors as a nuisance at best and at worst as a threat to accomplishing the deal that they and the SNHs were on the verge of achieving. And so, while representing to this Court in January 2010 that they were guardians of the interests of all, the Debtors sought to disband the Equity Committee – with full knowledge that the deal they were close to achieving would provide nothing to equity.

204. The Debtors’ transparent hostility to shareholders has been revealed over and over again in this case, while their allegiance to the interests of the SNHs has just as clearly been demonstrated repeatedly – to the point of persisting, until this Court finally ruled otherwise, in seeking payment of their attorneys fees and legally unsupportable releases in their favor as components of the Plan.

205. The gross imbalance in the Debtors’ treatment of the SNHs and of equity could hardly be more clear, or more unjustifiable. In a nutshell, the Plan is the product of a deeply flawed process, and the Debtors have failed to carry their burden of proving that it has been submitted in good faith.


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naja,

24
16.08.11 10:05
wer hätte das gedacht? dass es das EC/Susman genauso sieht wie wir?! ;-)

kann man nur hoffen, dass die Richterin voll darauf eingeht und nicht auf einem "Auge" blind ist!!!

Beautiful!

151. Während in den Besitz der Wasserfall-Matrix am 22. März vorgesehen ist, engagiert Appaloosa in WMI Wertpapiergeschäfte am 29. März und 30. März; Centerbridge in den Handel an mehreren Terminen von 29. März bis zum 15. Mai beschäftigt; Aurelius wurde der Handel an mehreren Terminen vom 7. April bis Mai 7 und Owl Creek war auf mehreren Terminen Handel vom 29. März bis 21. April. (Tr. 7 / 20 auf 156; AOC 54; AU 8; EC 131.)

202. Im Nachhinein und in Anbetracht der Beweis dafür, dass seit dem Dezember 2010 zu planen Bestätigung hören aufgetaucht ist, ist es nun offensichtlich, dass der Schuldner die Bemühungen zu untersuchen und potenziell prozessieren Business-Tort Claims gegen JPMC waren einfach window-dressing, vielleicht soll nur halten genügend Wärme auf JPMC zu helfen, die SNH-directed Abwicklungsprozess bis zur Vollendung eher früher als später, aber nicht mehr. Wir wissen jetzt, dass, während die Schuldner wurden in diesem Court im Januar 2010 streiten für zusätzliche Ermittlungsbehörde nach Regel 2004, hatten sie bereits übertragen, um einen detaillierten Entwurf Vereinbarung über die Streitschlichtung JPMC und erreichte Vereinbarungen grundsätzlich auf die Auflösung von nahezu allen wichtigen Fragen - die Umstrittene Accounts, die Steuerrückzahlungen, das Eigentum an der TPS und der Goodwill Litigation, und so weiter. Das Gericht hat nicht über diese Vereinbarungen kennen, noch die Öffentlichkeit, aber die SNHS hat.


203. Niemand in den Prozess einbezogen wurde mit Blick auf die Interessen der Aktionäre oder wirklich versuchen, den Wert der Güter zum Nutzen aller Beteiligten zu maximieren. Im Gegenteil, im Januar 2010 wurde das Eigenkapital durch den Schuldner als ein Ärgernis im besten und im schlimmsten Fall als eine Bedrohung für Erfüllung der Deal, dass sie und die SNHS am Rande der Erreichung angesehen wurden. Und so, während Vertreter an den Gerichtshof im Januar 2010, dass sie Hüter der Interessen aller waren, suchten die Schuldner der Equity-Ausschuss aufzulösen - in voller Kenntnis, dass der Deal waren sie fast erreicht nichts zu Eigenkapital bieten würde.

204. Der Schuldner "transparent Feindseligkeit gegenüber Aktionären aufgedeckt worden und immer wieder in diesem Fall, während ihre Loyalität zu den Interessen der SNHS hat ebenso klar wiederholt gezeigt worden - bis hin zur anhaltenden, bis das Gericht schließlich entschieden, ansonsten bei der Suche nach Zahlung ihrer Anwaltskosten und rechtlich unhaltbar Releases zu ihren Gunsten als Bestandteile des Plans.

205. Der Brutto-Ungleichgewicht in den Schuldturm Behandlung der SNHS und des Eigenkapitals konnte kaum klarer sein, oder mehr zu rechtfertigen. In Kürze wird dieser Plan das Ergebnis eines zutiefst fehlerhaft Prozess, und der Schuldner es versäumt haben, ihre Beweislast dafür, dass sie in gutem Glauben, wurde versandt tragen.
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oldwatcher:

NeverSurrender

9
16.08.11 10:18
Habe jetzt erst die lustige Geschichte von heute Nacht entdeckt: Lesenswert!
http://www.ariva.de/...KN_893906_News_t364286?page=6322#jumppos158074
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Snups:

Professor Frank Partnoy

9
16.08.11 10:38
und jetzt ist es auch hoffentlich dem letzten klar, warum FP noch ins Boot geholt wurde.
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Kleinst-Aktion.:

@snups

3
16.08.11 10:45
ne...erklär mal. Was soll er machen?

*KA*
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uninteressant:

Ich finde keine Aussage

6
16.08.11 10:46
zu der fehlenden A-L Liste.

Hab ich da was übersehen?

Bin für jede Info dankbar!
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Kleinst-Aktion.:

@uninteressant

28
16.08.11 10:52
Es geht in diesem CH AUSSCHLIESSLICH um die confirmation des POR. Eine valuation der WMI zum seizure hat damit nicht zu tun. Deshalb findet auch nur die valuation der reorgWMI eingang in die evidence. Das EC musste da wohl auch mit Fingerspitzen agieren, um den court nicht gegen sich aufzubringen. Deshalb hat man auch (im Gegensatz zu den anderen Parteien) während des CH keinerlei WERTUNGEN vernommen sondern nur evidence eingesammelt. Aus meiner Sichtweise eine kluge Strategie.

Das DICKE ENDE haben wir jetzt mit einer objection, die in aller Ausführlichkeit Schlüsse aus der evidence sammelt. Die fehlenden ALs preseizure bzw. WMIalt sind erst später von Interesse, wenn tatsächlich das seizure, bzw. der Verkauf an JPM betrachtet werden.

*KA*
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Chris1987:

Interessant

5
16.08.11 10:53
Irgendwie wie ja nett alle anderen Aktien im Minus zur Zeit außer diese. Hoffe für uns, dass sie noch so schön weiter bleibt.
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body1:

na da kam sie objection doch wohl gestern nacht

9
16.08.11 11:04
muss erstmal durchwurschteln ... sieht aber bombig aus ;-))) ...bis später
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body1:

EC written arguments

17
16.08.11 11:05
El Juez

Yeah, they did. For those who didn't catch it, the EC argues on page 56 and following that the issue of whether this POR is offered "in good faith" is an entirely separate and distinct inquiry, and is therefore not governed by the court's earlier ruling that the GSA met the "minimum level of reasonableness" required for it's approval as "fair and reasonable". In other words, the court must start all over again to determine if the deal is fundamentally fair. The precedents cited appear compelling. Moreover, even though earlier in the proceedings the EC promised not to revisit the issue, in the final paragraph (302), the EC argues (as have pro se objectors) that in light of the ANICO decision new facts exist which undermine the factual basis of the court's approval of the GSA, and that, therefore, that decision should be "reconsidered" as is permitted by law.

Overall, an excellent job, if somewhat mind-numbing in its completeness and complexity. (I had just about had it by the time the got into all the details of valuations by Blackstone vs. PJS, etc.) Yet they have provided the court with multiple compelling arguments against confirmation and provided multiple levels for a potential compromise verdict (via a vis the valuation issues) that would put equity in the money, if the court so chooses that path as a way to encourage a new settlement including equity. I'm not sure I like the potential compromises implied by that, but I think the EC has a duty to throw those issues out for the court's consideration, rather than just sticking to an all or nothing position.

Combine this great effort with the TPS filings and the pro se filings, and I don't think the current POR has a chance in hell, which is where it belongs.
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body1:

EC written arguments 2

15
16.08.11 11:06
I was about to make that same comment. I've been reading all night and am only half way through (page 56). This is an incredible job of meticulously synthesizing all the various evidence that has been scattered through this case. And an almost unbelievable effort of digging through all the details in the record, organizing them into a coherent and chronological narrative, and then focusing on the logical inferences to be drawn from the factual whole, and finally moving on to the legal arguments based on those facts.

There are so many highlights it's hard to know which to single out. My favorites so far (in the context presented): (1) Page 30, fn. 14, exposing BR's crass hypocrisy, and (2) Page 188, kudos to Nate Thoma.

Now on to the Arguments, beginning at page 55.

P.S. Could early knowledge by some of this filing have anything to do with why the PPS crept up so noticeably today? (Sorry, Ghost.)

P.P.S. Responding to Omwamu's comment directly above mine: Maybe those omissions are due to a tactical decision to focus on one or two particular winner issues in light of the facts that (1) in order to do a thorough job they had already exceeded the 40 page limit by a factor of 2.5, and (2) those other arguments had already been addressed by filings made by pro se objectors and TPS, and (3) they didn't want to water down the credibility of their focused arguments by getting into more speculative areas. They are, after all, trying to persuade the judge, not just drown her.
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body1:

sehr interessant zur objection

10
16.08.11 11:10
statt 48 seiten sind es 108 geworden ! ... hui
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Kleinst-Aktion.:

bissel Druck auf den Stämmen

3
16.08.11 11:30
ungewöhnlich, dass eine OTC-lasthour-miniralley in Deutschland nicht komplett ignoriert wird. Mit 6,3€Cent  haben wir schon über pari gehandelt. Ich könnte mir vorstellen, dass schon Zockerfinger zucken...ja ja...ich weiss...die Volumen sind bisher unrelevant!

*KA*
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body1:

kleine medienaktion bzw. infos für journalisten

18
16.08.11 11:41
bitte bombt diese unten geposteten adressen voll ! .. nur wenn es mehrere posten mit betreff: washington mutual JPM fraud oder ähnlichem ..kann man aufmerksamkeit interesse und skandaljäger aufwecken !!!!


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EC OBJECTION :

wmish.com/docs/815/8491.pdf

page 55 onward


. "187. This is not a picture of a Debtor who assiduously discharged its responsibilities as
fiduciaries for all interested parties, shareholders as well as creditors. It is a sorry story of a
bankruptcy run in secret, with the knowledge and complicity of the Debtors, for the benefit of a
favored few, who played decisive roles in orchestrating both the GSA and the Plan, who stand to
profit handsomely for their efforts, and who now ask this Court to hold that at no time did they
owe any responsibility or legal duty to anyone but themselves.
{00545965;v1} 56
188. Ironically, it is a story that never would have seen the light of day but for the
arousal of this Court’s suspicions – well-founded, as it turns out – at the December 2010
confirmation hearing. Moreover, it is undoubtedly not the full story, given the restrictions on
discovery that the Court was persuaded to impose on the Equity Committee, the relative brevity
of time within which the discovery was compressed, and the SNHs’ failure to produce privilege
logs that might have given the Equity Committee an opportunity to test the validity of their
decisions to withhold contemporaneous documents from production. Yet the story, as
incomplete as it may be, is disturbing, and it demands corrective action by this Court.
189. The SNHs and the Debtors are jointly attempting to persuade the Court that what
happened in this bankruptcy – one that stems from the largest bank failure in U.S. history -- is
“business as usual” and should be approved. We have no way of knowing whether events
similar to those revealed here have happened, and are happening, in other cases. However, if
they are, then approving what occurred here would be the wrong message for the judiciary to
send. Regardless, the decisions the Court must make are confined to the facts of this case,
whether they are unique or not, and based in the facts shown in the record before the Court, the
relief requested by the Equity Committee herein should be granted.


Page: 58
Court’s “fair and reasonable” finding with respect to the GSA does not preclude the Court from
subsequently determining whether the Modified Plan is being offered in good faith. The plan
proponents’ contention that the good faith issue is somehow foreclosed because of the findings
with respect to the GSA must be rejected."
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body1:

je mehr desto besser TEIL 1

12
16.08.11 11:43
hier nochmal paar zusätzliche neue adressen der presse ! um aufmerksamkeit zu erlangen bzw. auch mal skandaljäger zu aktivieren !

ich habe  diese quelle verschickt ! wmish.com/docs/815/8491.pdf


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neverenough:

finger jucken

8
16.08.11 11:43
aber wie verrückt......

möchte mir aber nicht mein tollen EK versauen....
bin hin und hergerissen, was ein teufelskreis....

wissen nichts zu wissen....

ursprünglicher plan (meinerseits) war: EC-Obj. kommt under seal, kurs & Dollar fällt bis 24.08, never kauft dick wamus, 24.08 POR wird aufgrund der hammer-under-seal-EC-Obj. abgelehnt, kurs & dollar steigen, Pfandbrief weint---

wie soll meine neue taktik jetzt aussehen?? schlecht wäre ja, Hammer-Objection, kurs steigt, never kauft, 24.08 POR ok, Ausbuchung, Pfandbrief 4 President

also heissts für mich abwarten....
ich trau mich heute iwie nicht, ja vor allem weil ich mir den 4er EK dann kaputt machen würde...

jemand tipps? ideen?
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body1:

je mehr desto besser TEIL 2

8
16.08.11 11:44
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body1:

je mehr desto besser TEIL 3

8
16.08.11 11:45
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tm2004:

neverenough

22
16.08.11 11:48
stell dir einfach die frage "wieviel fälle wird es davon in deinem leben noch geben"?

ich habe für mich entschieden - sekt oder selters

mfg
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Kleinst-Aktion.:

neverenough

4
16.08.11 11:56
Mein Tipp an Dich:

vertraue auf keine Tipps....jeder ist für sich selbst verantwortlich..

Golden rule:
- no loan for shares

*KA*
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body1:

weitere überschriften wären

5
16.08.11 11:56
Hedge fund FRAUD in BK case  (Washington Mutual)



"In particular, the Creditors’ Committee believes that the Equity Committee has failed to establish that the Settlement Noteholders engaged in insider trading. The testimony and the confirmation hearing exhibits show that the Settlement Noteholders, as well as the Debtors,took appropriate steps to avoid trading based on material, nonpublic information (“MNPI”)."


SNH:

B. Settlement Note Holder Claims Should Be Disallowed.
1. Equitable Disallowance Is A Viable Remedy.
215. In Pepper v. Litton, 308 U.S. 295 (1939), the Supreme Court explicitly found that where an insider is guilty of a “violation of rules of fair play and good conscience,” that may be a ”sufficient consideration” to invoke equity to disallow the insider’s claims. Id. at 311. In reaching that conclusion, the Court noted that a fiduciary “cannot serve himself first and his cestuis second,” and in particular, “cannot utilize his inside information and his strategic position
for his own preferment.”

Id. The Court went on to hold:
[The creditor] cannot use his power for his personal advantage and to the
detriment of the stockholders and creditors no matter how absolute in terms that
power may be and no matter how meticulous he is to satisfy technical
requirements. For that power is at all times subject to the equitable limitation that
{00545965;v1} 67 it may not be exercised for the aggrandisement, preference, or advantage of the fiduciary to the exclusion or detriment of the cestuis. Where there is a violation of those principles, equity will undo the wrong or intervene to prevent its
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body1:

ergänzung zu 15123

6
16.08.11 12:01
At the hearing, the SNH witnesses testified about procedures their firms had in
place to ensure the ethical walls were honored during the confidentiality period. Mr. Gropper, for
example, described elaborate procedures that Aurelius implemented to prevent other employees
of the firm from overhearing conversations he might have on the phone. He even testified about
the $150,000 that Aurelius spent to soundproof his office – despite the fact that this happened
only after the March-April 2009 period in which he was behind an ethical wall. (Tr. 7/18 at 5
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Kleinst-Aktion.:

bissel Druck auf die Stämme - Nr. 2

14
16.08.11 12:05
http://www.ariva.de/...KN_893906_News_t364286?page=6324#jumppos158115

Der Druck verdichtet sich. Ich sehe bis zu den oral arguments kaum noch Einstiege für die Stämme. Durch die EC-Objection ist ist sehr eindeutig eine Ablehnung des POR und eine Hinterfragung des GSA/ bzw. sogar des gesamten Chapter 11 hinterlegt.

Also....entweder hier wird noch gesettled (was ich nicht so recht glaube) oder wir sehen uns in höherer Instanz (natürlich OHNE effektive date) ;-)

*KA*
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Kleinst-Aktion.:

Charttechniker?

3
16.08.11 12:09
Wo ist in US-$ die nächste Unterstützung für die Stämme? Wenn ich mich recht erinnere bei knapp 14 $-Cent oder so? Wäre mal interessant, in wie weit die Zocker hier noch Einstiege finden (oder auch nicht);-)

*KA*
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Erlkoenig11:

die

13
16.08.11 12:09
Chance wird allgemein nicht sehr hoch eingeschätzt, dass wir am Ende gewinnen - siehe Aktienkurs!

Denke auch, dass viele abwarten und dann, sobald etwas konkret ist (z.B. Ablehnung der POR 6.5) kann man immer noch rein!?

und leider kommt der Kurs auch immer wieder zurück! Vor wenigen Wochen waren wir schon über 0,2$ und jetzt?! weil keiner weiß, wie es die Richterin erst mal sieht.

aber sagte/drohte nicht einer unserer Anwälte, wenn es keine POR7 gibt, dann könne man sehr gerne mit POR6.5 weiter machen!? Große Sorge/Angst scheint hier nicht vorhanden zu sein, so wie bei einigen hier im Forum!?

um fair zu sein sollte man natürlich auch die Argumente der Gegenseite beachten/beurteilen, nämlich die, sind sich keinerlei Schuld bewußt und werden auch noch von "unserem" Anwalt Rosen gedeckt!?

die Anschuldigungen des ECs gehen jetzt natürlich auch in Richtung "Unfähigkeit" von Rosen und wenn ich es richtig sehe, dann hat Rosen sein "Pulver" verschossen!?
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