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Libuda:

Internet Capital: Earnings Conference Call - ein

 
04.03.06 15:31
Mitschnitt.

Spätestens nach dem Lesen dieses Mitschnitts kann meines Erachtens jeder nachvollziehen, dass trotz des Kursanstiegs in den letzten Monaten bis Jahresende eine weitere Kursverdoppelung sehr wahrscheinlich ist. Denn eine Marktkapitalisierung von gerde einmal schlappen 350 Millionen Dollar passt mit Sicherheit nicht zu dem, was Ihr da lesen könnt. Denn zwei Drittel der Marktkapitalisierung sind allein schon durch Cash und marktgängige Wertpapiere abgesichert.

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Libuda:

Im Schnitt 27% Wachstum bei sieben der

 
04.03.06 16:19
acht Kernbeteiligungen:

Our Core partner companies had aggregate revenue growth of 15% in the fourth quarter of 2005 versus 2004, and achieved aggregate annual revenue growth of 23%. Excluding Metastorm, which was very focused on integrating with CommerceQuest during the quarter, our remaining seven core companies had aggregate revenue growth of 27% for the quarter versus Q4 2004.

Lediglich bei der Neuerwerbung Metastorm gingen wohl die Umsätze zurück, Ursache war die Verschelzung mit der Internet Capita-Beteiligung Commercequest, wo offensichtlich nicht alle früheren Kunden mit in dieses neue Gemeinschaftsunternehmen genommen werden könnten. Auch auch die Aussichten dieser Beteiliung sind exzellent, denn durch den Zusammenschluss, der zunächst etwas Umsatz gekostet haben dürfte ist der größte Pure Play im Bereich des überaus starken Wachstumsmarktes Business Process Marketing entstanden.

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datschi:

Hilflosigkeit pur bei Libuda

 
04.03.06 16:46
Immer wenn die vollmundig angekündigten Kursverdopplungen (oder gar Verdreifachungen) nicht eintreffen, wird eine neuer Thread aufgemacht und wie Zeithorizonte weiter nach vorne verschoben.
Hier die Fakten:

Ankündigung Anfang Januar 2005: Kursverdreifachung bei ICGE in 12 Monaten
Kurs am 30.12.04 war 9,00 USD
Kurs am 03.03.06 ist 9,30 USD

Ankündigung Anfang Januar 2006: Kursverdopplung bei ICGE in 6 Monaten

Kurs am 05.01.06: 7,84 USD
Kurs am 03.03.06: 9,30 USD

Jetzt wird eine Kursverdopplung bis Jahresende vom aktuellen Niveau aus angekündigt,
was ist denn mit dem 100% bis Juni? Steigt der Kurs jetzt auf 15,68 USD bis dahin?

Libuda muß an seinen Ankündigungen zur Kursentwicklung gemessen werden und da hat er kläglich versagt und seine Glaubhaftigkeit mit der neuerlichen Hinhaltetatik endgültig verloren.  
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Libuda:

Man sollte sich nicht von einem Frustposter

 
04.03.06 20:56
verunsichern lassen, sondern einmal auf den nachstehenden Chart sehen, der uns zeigt, wie relativ preiswert ein kontinuerilicher Einstieg bei Internet Capital möglich war. Noch preiswerter war das in über ein Vierteljahr in 2002 möglich (um die vier Dollar über einen Zeitraum von einem Vierteljahr), teilweise auch in 2003, wo der Schwerpunkt meiner Anschaffungen lag. Damals habe ich allerdings noch nicht auf diesem Board gepostet. Zocker habe ich immer wieder gewarnt, von diesem Papier die Finger zu lassen, denn kaufen bei Zwischenhochs und beim ersten Rücksetzer abspringen produziert Verluste, wovon Datschi offensichtlich ein Frustlied mit vielen Strophen singen kann.

finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=ICGE&t=2y

Und das beste daran ist, dass das Papier noch lange nicht ausgereitzt mit fast einer Viertelmilliarde Cash und Wertpapieren bei einer Marktkapitalisierung von 360 Millionen nach unten abgesichert ist: also bei dem jetzigen Kursniveau eine sehr aussichtsreiche Langfristspekulation mit einem relativ engmaschigen Sicherheitsnetz, das einerseits in viel Cash und andererseits in enormer Risikostreuung (verkappter Technologie-/Internetfonds) liegt einer nachwievor extremen Unterbewertung als Dreingabe.

Die Ausführungen (beinahe hätte ich aus Versehen Argumentation geschrieben) könnte Ihr ja einmal daraufhin überprüfen, ob es auch nur ein Sachargument enthält oder nur Frust als Antrieb existert.
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Libuda:

Datschi schweigt wie ein Grab

 
04.03.06 23:36
vielleicht erklärt er uns einmal, ob er nur Emotionen blast oder auch Argumente hat.

Ich finde es schlimm, wenn man aus Frust über die eigene Unfähigkeit, anderen Kursgewinne nicht ´gönnt bzw. mit großer Wahrscheinlichkeit angehende verleidet.

Nur Emotionen blasen, um andere Lesern aus Frust über den eigenen Frust gezielt zu schaden, halte ich für eine Unverschämtheit. Wer sich aus dem Fenster lehnt sollte schon Butter bei die Fische tun. So schwer kann es doch mit dem im Ausgangsposting von mir zur Verfügung gestellten Mitschnitt aus dem Conference Call wirklich nicht sein und es würde uns allen weiter helfen:

Also lieber Datschi erkläre uns ohne die bei Dir üblichen Plattheiten einmal, warum wir aufgrund der Ausführungen im Conference Call im Ausgangsposting nicht Ende 2006 bei 18 Dollar sind.  
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Libuda:

Bemerkenswert ist der Start bei CreditTrade

 
05.03.06 15:40
über die bisher geschwiegen haben wie ein Grab. Aber am 16. Februar wurde erstmals in der Geschichte der Quartalsberichterstattung von Internet Capital ein kleines Statement zu allen Kernbeteiligungen abgegeben, die Private Helds sind - acht sind es zur Zeit:

Turning to slide 8, I’ll start with CreditTrade. CreditTrade is a leading provider of transaction, data information services for credit market. We saw very strong growth, revenue growth in 2005, capitalizing off of the growth in a credit derivatives market. We expect to see continued strong performance in CreditTrade in 2006. As this market continue to grow and they solidify their market leadership position.

Die Botschaft ist simpel: Starkes Wachstum in 2005 und auch starkes Wachstum in 2006, was angesichts des boomenden Kreditderivatemarktes auch nicht verwunderlich ist. Meines Erachten hat Credittrade die höchsten Umsätze von alle acht Kernbeteiligungen, die Private Helds sind. Ich schätze sie für 2005 auf knapp 50 Millionen Dollar und sehe für 2006 Erlöse von 70 Millionen. Bedauerlich ist lediglich, dass Internet Capital nur noch mit 27% beteiligt ist, früher warene es einmal 30% - ich gehe davon aus, dass diese geringe Absenkung durch Mitarbeiteroptionen, die in diesem Geschäft unvermeidlich sind, entstanden sind. Wie bei keiner anderen Internet Capital-Beteiligung hängt hier das Geschäft von der Qualität der Mitarbeiter ab.

Stellt sich zum Schluss noch die Frage nach dem Kurs-Umsatz-Verhältnis. Meines Erachtens dürfte es keinesfalls unter acht liegen, aber angesichts des enormen Wachstums, das ich mit dem Anstieg von 50 Millionen auf 70 Millionen Erlöse sicher sehr vorsichtig beschrieben habe, ist sicher auch einen Wert von 10 darstellbar.

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Libuda:

Das Marktumfeld der vorstehend beschriebenen

 
05.03.06 23:09
CreditTrade:

HANDELSBLATT, Samstag, 28. Januar 2006, 09:00 Uhr

Terminmarkt boomt  

Kreditderivate boomen  

Von Andrea Cünnen  

Der Markt für Kreditderivate wächst rasant. Die wichtigsten Instrumente sind Credit Default Swaps (CDS). Sie sind eine Art Ausfallversicherung auf Anleihen oder auch Kredite, mit der sich die Risiken handeln lassen, ohne dass die zu Grunde liegenden Referenzobligationen den Besitzer wechseln. Knapp zwei Drittel der Geschäfte entfallen auf Unternehmensrisiken, die von den Ratingagenturen mit Noten innerhalb des Investment-Grade eingestuft werden, womit der Schuldner als solide gilt.  



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HB FRANKFURT. Bis zum zweiten Halbjahr 2005 ist der Markt – also das Nominalvolumen der Risiken, die durch CDS abgesichert sind – weltweit auf rund 12,4 Billionen Dollar angeschwollen (s. „Eine Anlageklasse für sich“). Und ein Ende des Booms ist nicht abzusehen. „Der Markt wird immer wichtiger, und für professionelle Investoren sind Credit Default Swaps die entscheidende Messlatte für die Bewertung von Kreditrisiken“, sagt Gunnar Regier, der bei JP Morgan in Frankfurt institutionelle Anleger im Anleihe- und Derivatebereich betreut.CDS sind bilaterale Kontrakte, die sich auf ein bestimmtes Kreditrisiko (zum Beispiel Anleihen von Daimler-Chrysler) beziehen. Während der Laufzeit des Kontrakts verpflichtet sich der Sicherungsgeber (Risikokäufer), einen etwaigen wirtschaftlichen Verlust in der Referenzobligation bei Eintritt eines Kreditereignisses gegenüber dem Sicherungsnehmer (Risikoverkäufer) zu kompensieren. Als Kreditereignisse gelten üblicherweise vor allem Insolvenz oder Zahlungsverzug des Schuldners. Tritt ein solches juristisch vordefiniertes Kreditereignis ein, so liefert der Sicherungsnehmer eine entsprechende Referenzobligation an den Sicherungsgeber und erhält im Gegenzug dafür den Nennwert erstattet. Alternativ kann auch auf die Lieferung verzichtet werden und die Entschädigung komplett in bar gezahlt werden. Für diese Absicherung zahlt der Sicherungsnehmer eine Prämie an den Sicherungsgeber. In diesem Jahr pendeln die Risikoaufschläge (Spreads) von CDS – gemessen am I-Traxx-Europe-Index – zwischen 0,36 und 0,38 Prozentpunkten und sind damit sehr niedrig, ähnlich wie die Risikoaufschläge von Unternehmensanleihen. Die meisten Experten fürchten, dass die Spreads in diesem Jahr steigen werden. Der I-Traxx-Europe-Index bildet die 125 liquidesten Credit Default Swaps europäischer Unternehmen ab. Es gibt verschiedene I-Traxx-Indizes, die Investoren aktiv handeln können. „Die Indizes haben die Transparenz und Liquidität des Marktes enorm erhöht“, sagt Regier. Meist reagierten die CDS und die Indizes viel schneller auf bestimmte Ereignisse als die Unternehmensanleihen. „Zudem sind die Umsätze bei Kreditderivaten deutlich höher als bei den Anleihen selbst“, betont Michael Zaiser, Stratege für Kredite und Derivate bei der Hypo-Vereinsbank (HVB). Besonders aktiv am CDS-Markt sind Banken, gefolgt von Versicherern. Auch Hedge-Fonds und herkömmliche Investmentgesellschaften gehören zu den Marktteilnehmern. Deutsche Fonds dürfen Kreditderivate erst seit gut zwei Jahren einsetzen. Dafür müssen sie nachweisen, dass sie die Risiken messen und überwachen können. „Dabei hapert es noch an der Umsetzung, weshalb deutsche Fonds CDS nur vereinzelt einsetzen“, sagt Zaiser. Er geht aber davon aus, dass sich die deutschen Fonds in den nächsten zwei Jahren stärker auf CDS konzentrieren werden. „Das wird dem Markt noch weiteren Schub geben“, meint der Stratege. Erfunden wurden die Credit Default Swaps in den neunziger Jahren von Banken, vornehmlich, um die Bücher von Kreditrisiken zu entlasten. Heute nutzen die Handelsabteilungen der Banken wie auch die anderen Akteure die Derivate auch, um bei steigenden Spreads Gewinne zu machen. „Bei herkömmlichen Anleihen kann man in der Erwartung steigender Risikoaufschläge einzelner Bonds nur besser als der Markt abschneiden, wenn man die Anleihen nicht im Portfolio hat“, erklärt Klaus Oster, Leiter des Kreditresearchs bei der Fondsgesellschaft Deka Investment: „Im CDS-Markt kann man dagegen durch den Kauf von Sicherung direkt von steigenden Spreads profitieren.“ Lesen Sie weiter auf Seite 2:Außerdem gilt das größere Anlageuniversum im Derivatemarkt als Vorteil.  



HANDELSBLATT, Samstag, 28. Januar 2006, 09:00 Uhr


Kreditderivate boomen  





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Außerdem gilt das größere Anlageuniversum im Derivatemarkt als Vorteil. Mit den CDS lassen sich Kreditrisiken auf alle Laufzeiten nachbilden, auch wenn es keine entsprechenden Anleihen gibt. „Das führt auch dazu, dass sich die Risiken über die einheitlichen CDS besser vergleichen lassen als über Anleihen, die in Laufzeit und Ausstattung stärker variieren“, sagt Oster. „Hinzu kommt die Hebelwirkung, weil sich Risiko handeln lässt, ohne dass Anleihen ge- oder verkauft werden müssen.“Die Hebelwirkung wird jedoch auch kritisiert, genau wie die Tatsache, dass nicht nachvollziehbar wird, wer welche Derivate hält, so dass ein Systemrisiko entsteht. Gefahren sehen etwa die Bank für Internationalen Zahlungsausgleich (BIZ) und nationale Aufsichtsbehörden auch dadurch, dass es bei der Abwicklung der Derivategeschäfte zu Verzögerungen kommt, was bei tatsächlichen „Credit Events“ die Turbulenzen an den Finanzmärkten verstärken könnte. JP-Morgan-Fachmann Regier hält dagegen, dass es der Stabilisierung des Finanzsystems diene, wenn die Risiken breit gestreut seien: „Außerdem entwickeln die Marktteilnehmer die Risikomodelle und die Abwicklung weiter, so dass das systemische Risiko stetig abnimmt.“ Eine Anlageklasse für sich Der MarktCredit Default Swaps (CDS) sind die bedeutendsten und liquidesten Kreditderivate. CDS machen Kreditrisiken handelbar – unabhängig von den zu Grunde liegenden Anleihen oder Krediten. Wer die Sicherung kauft, muss dafür eine Prämie bezahlen. Der Markt entstand in den 90er-Jahren und hat zum Teil pro Jahr Wachstumsraten von über 100 Prozent. Derzeit sind weltweit CDS-Kontrakte über 12,4 Billionen Dollar am Markt. Die TeilnehmerErfunden wurden die CDS in den 90er-Jahren von Banken. Inzwischen sind auch viele Versicherer auf dem Markt aktiv, ebenso wie Hedge-Fonds, Investmentgesellschaften und Unternehmen.Die FolgeprodukteCDS sind die Grundlage für viele andere derivative Produkte, zum Beispiel synthetische Asset Backed Securities, bei denen Kreditrisiken übertragen und als Wertpapiere an den Markt gebracht werden.

HANDELSBLATT, Samstag, 28. Januar 2006, 09:00 Uhr



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Libuda:

Aussage zu Freeborders bei der Vorstellung der

 
06.03.06 14:12
der Quartalszahlen:

Freeborders, our leading provider of technology and outsourcing solutions in China find 19 new customers in 2005, including Owens-Ilinois, Sara Lee, Onyx, TradeCard and BenefitNation. The Company made significant headway overseas, increasing capacity at its Shenzhen, China technology center by over 100% to more than 700 software engineers. This progress helped Freeborders secure $20 million financing led by FT Ventures. And more recently Freeborders announced its acquisition of ITK Solutions, an IT management consulting firm specializing in software project delivery for financial services companies. This acquisition brings the top tier clients with the global banks, investment banks and hedge fund to Freeborders.

Bei Freeborders gehe ich von einem IPO in 2006 aus, vermutlich sogar noch im ersten Halbjahr. Ob der Milliarden-IPO wird, wie der Co-CEO meint, sei einmal dahingestellt. Auch bei einem IPO, der auf einen Unternehmenswert von 500 Millionen hinausliefe wären die 33% von Internet Capital immerhin 165 Millionen wert.

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Libuda:

Freeborders - der Markt und die Aussichten

 
06.03.06 15:56
sind meines Erachtens fantastisch. Wer nicht vor dem IPO von Freeborders in Internet Capital drin ist, verpasst Kursgewinne. Solange da ein Shortseller wie heute beim günstigen Einstieg hilft gilt nur eines: So schnell wie möglich rein.

12 December 2005 by Dian Schaffhauser Printable version  |  Email to a friend  
The Other Freeborders Interview

What do you do when you interview somebody and you don’t quite get the article you expected out of it? You blog, of course.

And that’s the case with my interview with Ramsey Walker, co-CEO of Freeborders. I profile Freeborders in “Inside a Service Provider: Freeborders Shares Its China Growth Plans.” (The company offers services to clients in the retail, financial services and software segments, with most of its operations in Shenzhen, China.) But that article is based on a second interview I did, this time with co-CEO John Cestar. Since I couldn’t figure out a smooth way to integrate some of the more relevant comments from Mr. Walker into that article, I present them here...

What’s your strategy? To grow big and get sucked up by somebody else?
Ramsey Walker:
We think there will be an Infosys of China, and we think we will be it. And if we are the Infosys of China, then we don’t need to be sucked up by anybody -- we will be doing the buying. That is really the strategy, to be the Infosys of China...

What is the state of the China development market right now? What does it look like to you?

There is just a huge new supply of qualified, educated technical programmers coming out of schools, coming out of some of the captive sites that Microsoft and others have set up. So what we see is just a tremendously educated, tremendously motivated supply of labor. That is enormously attractive to US and European and rest-of-the-world clients. So, start with the labor pool.

Behind that is, of course, an education system, and the education system in China is outstanding and really very horizontal. Unlike India, where you have much more elite type of an education system with relatively few people coming out of [one of the Indian Institutes of Technology] schools and some of the other [schools], China is much more broad, and so that is driving the labor supply.

The other aspect is no one has broken out on the vender side with any kind of scale. We think we are in the process of doing that. What I mean by that is real scale -- in this business, many thousands of people, not 50, not 100, not even a couple of hundred. It is many thousands of people. We will have 700 or more by the end of this year -- between 1,000 and 2,000 next year. We have Fortune 100, Fortune 1000 customers today, and we are simply adding to that.

We are optimistic both on the supply side and on the competitive landscape and on the demand side.

When you talk about the China market, there is a focus on regions. How do clients even decide? Is it the case that most of the US or European companies going over there are looking for sourcing solutions and are sticking with regions where they have already got a toehold through their manufacturing?
We are in Shenzhen -- right across from Hong Kong, a 40-minute ferry boat ride. That is a tremendous advantage. It has 11 million people. It is obviously a big city. It has increasing amounts of first-world infrastructure. In Shenzhen there are a couple of advantages. Number one, the supply of labor is strong. It is a point of attraction for many of the regions all around China, people coming into Shenzhen.

Number two, the proximity to Hong Kong is a tremendous advantage for us because customers are coming to Hong Kong all the time. They either tack on this trip, or they come to see us and then they will tack on other stuff. They are in Hong Kong, the business center of the world and so it is very easy for them.

The costs in Shanghai are actually higher, and the supply is lower. Beijing, to be honest, I don’t have the statistics on.

What kinds of mistakes are American companies making around doing business with China?
One mistake would be to drop a bunch of westerners in to manage the operation. That is not what we have done. We have used Chinese nationals to manage the team there. That is one thing -- how you set up the organization.

Two is, of course, respecting the culture, respecting the holidays. Don’t force them to buy US holidays and that sort of thing.

I think the other thing is to recognize that doing work offshore is not the same as doing work onshore. You don’t get the water cooler conversations. You need to have really well documented processes to succeed.

 
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Libuda:

Über ICGCommerce wird als dritte von den

 
06.03.06 19:25
acht Kernbeteiligungen berichtet:

Procurement services provider ICG Commerce continue to make solid progress turning four major customers in the fourth quarter. In addition, ICG Commerce continue to expand its relationships with Avaya, Greif and Cooper Cameron. Notably the Company recently announced that it had been engaged by Goodyear to lead a strategic procurement initiative in North America. Its customer activities translating into real results, it’s contracted year-end backlog increasing by more than 100% to $60 million. Industry influencers were also continue to point to the progress being made at ICG Commerce. The Company’s work was recognized for the 4th consecutive year in Forbes’ “Best of the Web” ranking of business-to-business Company. We believe that this momentum and a strong sales pipeline in entering 2006, positions them well for continued market leadership.

In den USA sind die der eindeutige Marktführer im outgesourcten Beschaffen von indirekten Gütern. Der entscheidende Punkt ist, dass hier der Netzeffekt positiv wirkt: Bekanntlich besagt ja dieser Netzeffekt, dass ein Unternehmen durch jeden neuen Kunden noch attraktiver wird (siehe Ebay oder Microsoft oder die Internet Capital-Beteiligung Blackboard) und dann noch mehr Kunden zieht - im Falle von ICGCommerce durch das dann bessere Poolen von Einkaufsmengen). Und das hat sich in den USA sehr positiv ausgewirkt. Allerdings muss man auch sagen, dass sie es Europa nicht auf die notige kritische Masse bringen/brachten, um rentabel zu sein. Daher haben sie ihre deutsche Tochter, die sehr bekannnte HPI, verkauft. Die war aus dem Zentraleinkauf des ehemaligen Hoechst-Einkaufs hervorgegangen und in Deutschland lange Jahre als Mustereinkauf bekannt. Jeder Student der Wirtschaftswissenschaften, der ein Standbein im Bereich der Beschaffung hatte, kennt dieses Unternehmen, das als Musterunternehmen hofiert wurde. Allerdings arbeitet man mit der verkauften deutschen Tochter nachwievor zusammen, und erbringt auch noch Dienstleistungen im Einkauf - als eine Art "Sub" offensichtlich.

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Libuda:

ICGCommerce und sein Marktumfeld

 
06.03.06 20:23
Dass ICGCommerce der Marktführer ist, könnt Ihr ebenfalls dem nachstehenden Artikel entnehmen, und zwar dem dort enthaltenen Satz: "As a recent BPO Market Report article noted, "Research carried out by Everest Partners reveals that ICG [Commerce] has won 26% of the contracts signed in the procurement outsourcing space to date, more than any other vendor."



ICG Commerce Reports Solid Growth for 2005 Driven by Several New and Extended Customer Relationships
Critical Mass of Comprehensive Procurement Outsourcing Engagements Fuels Recognition of Market Leadership By Multiple Industry Pundits


PHILADELPHIA - Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - ICG Commerce, a leading procurement services provider,
today announced key business results for 2005. The company reported double-digit growth in the United
States, driven heavily by several new and extended procurement outsourcing relationships with leading
corporations. Due to the number of multi-year customer relationships established in 2005, the value of
ICG Commerce's contract backlog (the value of all remaining contracted revenue) grew in excess of
100% throughout the year.

Among the new contracts signed in 2005 were four agreements for comprehensive procurement
management or outsourcing services. In addition, extensions were signed with a number of existing
customers such as Avaya, further cementing ICG Commerce's market share leadership in the
procurement BPO arena. As a recent BPO Market Report article noted, "Research carried out by Everest
Partners reveals that ICG [Commerce] has won 26% of the contracts signed in the procurement
outsourcing space to date, more than any other vendor."

The Avaya/ICG Commerce relationship gained recognition from multiple sources in 2005 as a pioneering
procurement outsourcing engagement. In addition to being named a finalist in the Outsourcing Center's
Outsourcing Excellence Awards, the two companies were recognized by research services firm IDC as
being among the first to reach the "second wave of comprehensive procurement BPO".

In its "Procurement BPO Competitive Landscape" report published in September of last year, IDC
specifically highlighted ICG Commerce's numerous long-term outsourcing customers stating that:  "ICG
Commerce has been providing services to 20 of them for longer than three years…[The procurement
outsourcing services provider] has a core base of large customers with whom it has comprehensive,
longer-term outsourcing relationships and a larger set of accounts that are smaller in scope for whom it
manages a select number of categories."

ICG Commerce's leadership in procurement BPO also was reaffirmed in 2005 by Forbes magazine,
which recognized the company for the fourth consecutive year in its ranking of business-to-business
companies. ICG Commerce was the only procurement-focused outsourcing provider to be chosen in the
BPO category.

This validation from major industry pundits points to ICG Commerce's comprehensive approach to
procurement as the most effective model for driving bottom-line savings and process efficiencies. The
ICG Commerce approach marries deep category expertise; process and operations specialists; and a
flexible technology platform to build and execute programs that produce sustainable and measurable
savings for customers year after year.

Continuing to innovate and grow its value to customers, ICG Commerce expanded its service offering in
several areas over the past year. Key changes included further broadening of sourcing capabilities in
several service-related categories such as Marketing, Travel, and Human Resources. ICG Commerce
also enhanced its technology offering, adding multi-national transaction capabilities. Building on the
company's strong track record of sourcing success in the area of Transportation & Logistics, the
company added Buying Center and Category Management services and is now providing comprehensive
Logistics Management Outsourcing services to several leading companies.

"As evidenced by our continuing momentum in both new customer acquisition and existing customer
extension, major corporations have discovered the substantial impact that partnering with a focused Procurement
Services Provider can have on the bottom-line," said Edward H. West, chairman and CEO of ICG Commerce.
"With a strong, long-term track record of results and a mature set of services that continues to evolve
to meet new needs and opportunities, ICG Commerce is poised to continue to lead the fast-rising procurement
BPO arena."

# # #

About ICG Commerce, Inc.

ICG Commerce (www.icgcommerce.com) is a leading Procurement Services Provider exclusively
focused on helping companies buy more effectively and efficiently in order to reduce costs significantly
and continuously. The company offers an unmatched combination of process and category expertise,
market insights and benchmarks and a world-class operational Buying Center to deliver Sourcing and
Procurement Outsourcing Services. ICG Commerce Inc., a privately held company founded in 1992, is a
member of Internet Capital Group's (Nasdaq: ICGE) network of partner companies. For four consecutive
years, ICG Commerce has been as a Forbes Best of the Web: B2B honoree, and the company also has had
multiple executives recognized in Supply & Demand Chain Executive magazine's annual "Pros to Know"
listing.


Contacts:

Kristen Knouft  
ICG Commerce  
484-690-5000  
kknouft@icgcommerce.com

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Libuda:

Kommentar zur wohl kleinsten Kernbeteiligung

 
07.03.06 18:29
auf der Pressekonferenz beim Quartalsabschluss:

Investor Force, the leading provider of business solutions to institutional investment management industry singed 8 significant contracts over the course of 2005. And currently has contracted backlog of more than $10 million. Company’s all sort of management team during the second half of 2005, adding several top-level executives in key areas including sales, technology and operations. This momentum coming out of 2005, the emphasis on 2006 will be go live with current customers driving a real revenue and earnings growth.

Das geht sicher wie Öl runter, was man da zu lesen bekommt. Aber Investorforce ist zumindest bisher noch ein sehr kleines Unternehmen - vom Umsatz her mit Abstand die kleinste der acht Kernbeteiliungen.
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Libuda:

Investorforce - konkret,, wo 80% bei

 
07.03.06 20:14
Internet Capital liegen:

www.investorforce.com/aboutus/...orce%20January%202006%20v.pdf
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Libuda:

Die Kunden von InvestorForce, wo Internet Capital

 
07.03.06 22:25
80% hält:

A Representational List of InvestorForce Clients
As of October 2005
ABN AMRO Incorporated
ABN-AMRO Asset Management (Japan)
Albourne Partners Limited
Alternative Leaders France
American Express Asset Management
Aon Investment Consulting
Banc of America Capital Management
Bank of America Securities
Bank of Ireland Asset Management
Bank of New York
Bear Stearns Asset Management
Blue Ridge Capital
BNP Paribas - Cooper Neff
BNP Paribas Arbitrage
Bookbinder Capital Management LLC
Boston Partners
Brandywine Asset Management
CapGroup Investment Advisors
Capital Growth Advisors LLC
Casey Quirk and Associates
Chicago Board of Trade
Citadel Investment Group, LLC
Citigroup Asset Management
Citigroup Global Markets Limited
City of Hartford MERF
Credit Lyonnais Group Management Ltd.
CSX
Daiwa SB Investments (USA) Ltd.
Deutsche Asset Management
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Libuda:

Warum stellt Euch Libuda die Kernbeteiligungen

 
08.03.06 13:52
vor? Vier waren es bereits und vier weitere sollen noch folgen.

Der Grund ist einfach. Es geht um diese Passage aus der Vorstellung des Quartalsbericht mit dem Chief Financial Officer:

Q – Jeff Jacobi

Yeah hi, I was hoping to say, I appreciate that you went through with the 8 Core companies values were and a price to sales of 1.8, I was wondering if you could give us some sense from an outside prospective how we should look at how you look at with the comparable price to sales ratios are for those companies, is there an aggregate number you use obviously recognize, and there is a mix of companies within it.

A – Anthony Dolanski

Yeah, actually go through the profits on a company-by-company basis to make estimates of valuation, but I would say that the range of values is fairly wide.

Q – Jeff Jacobi

Yeah.

A – Anthony Dolanski

Couple of, we do look at some public comps, one of the companies that we have a big interest in is Backboard and, overtime the way we use to analyze Blackboard at, in a level of continue to grow. And I think as of the date of Blackboard’s earnings release there was probably a 7 times, 12 in 12 months revenue, a fairly large evaluation. And, so each company has a different sort of a number associated with, but we do look at public comp, when we are in the market for either buying or selling, we have a very good feel as to what the price tag is going to be. So, I think we have good insight into it, but the numbers range pretty widely, company-by-company and for anyone company they could also range considerably.

Q – Jeff Jacobi

And is there a sense though that the low end of that range, I mean generally software companies that are profitable or near profitable trade a better than two time sales.

A – Anthony Dolanski

Yeah I mean, I think once you sort of break through the profitably you have two, it’s really the base and it goes up from there.

Q – Jeff Jacobi

Got it. Okay thank you.

Die anteiligen Umsätze der acht Kernbeteiligungen wurden zum damaligen Zeitpunkt nur mit dem Faktor 1,8 bewertet. Dazu hat man die Marktkaptialisierung genommen und Nettocash abgézogen und diesen Betrag in Relation zu den anteiligen Umsätzen der Kernbeteiligungen gestellt. Was übrigens Libuda schon seit vielen Monaten macht. Dabei hat man sogar noch die anteiligen Umsätze der Nichtkernbeteiligungen weggelassen, die vermutlich den Faktor sogar auf 1,6 bis 1,7 gedrückt hätten (im wesentlichen Computerjobs.com, Ecredit.com und emptoris). Das ist natürlich absurd niedrig. Mit der Vorstellung der acht Kernbeteiligungen sollte jetzt die Möglichkeit aufgezeigt werden, hier einen realistichen Wert zu ermitteln. Nach dem Ausscheiden der schlechtesten Kernbeteiligung GoIndustry aus dem Kreis der nichtbörsennotierten Kernbeteiligungen dürfte ein Wert von mindestens fünf eine realistische Annahme sein, wobei diese Wert sehr stark von Beteiligung zu Beteiligung schwanken dürften, wie es ja auch der CFO im Gespräch bestätigt.


Kurssteigerungen können somit aus zwei Quellen kommen.

Erstens: Der Anpassung des KGV's = 3,2 mal 115 Millionen =368 Millionen

Zweitens: Der Steigerung der Umsätze von 95 auf 115 Millionen (20% Umsatzsteigerungen sollen erzielt werden).

Da sind zusammen 388 Millionen. Bei den umlaufenden etwas mehr als 39 Millionen Aktien ergibt sich gegenüber dem momentanen Stand von ca 9 Dollar ein Kursanstiegspotenzial von 10 Dollar - also in etwa eine Kursverdoppelung.
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Libuda:

Die fünfte Vorstellung bei der Präsentation der

 
08.03.06 18:49
der Quartalsergebnisse war Marketron:

Provider of broadcast management solution for radio, TV and cable industries,
Marketron made good progress in 2005 signing several key new customers and renewing a number of important exciting customers including News-Press & Gazette, Cox Radio, Entercom, Entravision, and Devonshire Associates. Contracted backlog going into 2006 was $49 million up nicely from the prior year.

At the year-end the Company reduced its technology expenses, as some of its technology initiatives came to completion. And as a result the Company expected to see accelerated EBITDA growth in 2006.



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Libuda:

Marketron Marktführerschaft kommt nachstehend

 
09.03.06 15:48
zum Ausdruck:

Trafficking in the Digital Future
Software developments make the most of stations' revenue opportunities

By Glen Dickson -- Broadcasting & Cable, 1/23/2006

In this story:
“A REAL-TIME LOOK”
WORKING OFF THE HUB MODEL
OVERSTATED AND OVERRATED
ROLLING OUT H-CLASS



As broadcasters face intense competition for viewers' eyeballs from newer platforms like mobile video and on-demand services, they're looking to maximize their opportunities in an increasingly fragmented advertising market. Crucial to that is getting the most out of their traffic systems: the software that controls a station's commercial inventory and links the sales and engineering departments.

More and more stations seek to bundle the traffic functions of multiple stations together and control them from a common database, reducing operational costs while increasing sales efficiency. And stations are looking for tighter integration between traffic and automation systems as a way to further streamline operations. Many also aim to sell time in a new venue, whether a digital television stream, the Internet or even a video display on a city bus.

Helping broadcasters reach those goals, traffic-software vendors such as Optimum Solutions Inc., Harris Broadcast and WideOrbit are providing increased flexibility and richer features. “There are lot of great choices now, which wasn't always the case,” says Belo VP of Advertising Services Steve McIntosh.

 

Belo centralized its traffic functions with Optimal Solutions' OSI-Traffic in its Dallas headquarters. OSI, which counts Paxson Communications, Dispatch Broadcasting and Sinclair as customers, says more than 400 stations are using OSI-Traffic and “Ad Connections” sales software.

“A REAL-TIME LOOK”
McIntosh says OSI makes operations run smoothly: “Instead of having them send out 30 spreadsheets, we get more of a real-time look at the client base whenever we want, without having to involve the stations. It has also reduced the error rate by more than half when contracts go into the system, and it reduces the revenue loss when spots don't run when they're supposed to.”

McIntosh points out that OSI's centralized system gives both local and national salespeople real-time information on ad placings and budget performance. It also helps comply with the federal Sarbanes-Oxley Act: “We can ensure that everything on the revenue side is all in one place, and auditors only need to go through Dallas [Belo headquarters],” he says. “Your external audit costs drop, since you don't have to make all those trips.”

Another feature of the OSI software is the ability to do zoned programming and geographically targeted logs; Belo's Northwest Cable News in Seattle, for instance, has four logs targeted at different zones in the market.

Today's systems are far more sophisticated than even a few years ago, says Claude Morris, COO of Video Communications Inc. (VCI). “It used to be that every station ran a skim that was available every morning, and people worked off the hard-copy skim,” he says. “Now we have live avails, and they can go look at specific areas. They can look at their competitors, look at rates, and be inputting an order through partners.”

VCI started in 1984, and more than 200 broadcast stations and 100 cable channels use its STARS II+ sales, traffic and accounting software. Morris says the company had its best year ever in 2005. He continues to see stations centralizing their traffic operations, either by “clustering,” where station groups run traffic functions for all stations on one database, or true “centralcasting,” where a hub station not only handles traffic but also pumps out signals to multiple stations via fiber links.

WORKING OFF THE HUB MODEL
One fan of the hub model is LIN Television, which uses VCI software to run six stations out of Springfield, Mass., including Hispanic “superstation” WAPA in San Juan, P.R., and nine more out of Indianapolis. LIN added two stations it acquired from Viacom—WNDY Indianapolis and WWHO Columbus, Ohio—to its Indianapolis hub in less than two weeks. LIN plans to add two more Indiana stations to the hub in the next few months.

“We're always looking at whether it makes economic sense to do that,” says Scott Blumenthal, VP of regional operations for LIN TV. “It's silly to spend money on a new control room when you already have one.”

VCI has worked to make its STARS II+ system compatible with all major automation vendors. Morris says that level of integration with automation will become more important as stations use their digital spectrum to multicast. “Every individual station will turn into its own mini-hub, with two, three, even four channels going out,” says Morris. “We're geared to that.”

LIN is already multicasting at its stations with weather service LWS (Local Weather Station). The additional traffic load has been no problem for the VCI software. “There is no difference,” says Blumenthal. “If anything, it's easier because the breaks are in the same position every hour, 24 hours a day. It doesn't vary by program like a traditional station.”

Another centralcasting customer is Clear Channel Television, which uses VCI across 11 stations in the Northeast and centralcasts to eight New York stations from its Syracuse hub. “When you have a centralcasting structure, it is very user-friendly for the client,” says Stephen Kimatian, regional VP of the Northeast for Clear Channel. “It's a one-stop shop for a lot of their needs. Generally, they have been unaccustomed to having one location to deal with multiple stations and place multiple buys.”

One efficiency for national spot buyers, says Kimatian, is that, instead of sending duplicate commercials to multiple stations, they only need to send one.

Another emerging player in the traffic-system space is WideOrbit. Four years ago, WideOrbit had two stations live; now it has more than 400 broadcasters using its traffic- and revenue-management system, says CEO/founder Eric Mathewson. Customers include the New York Times, Liberty, Meredith and Hearst-Argyle station groups (all of which are investors), as well as Gannett, Post-Newsweek and Canadian broadcaster CORUS. The company has also developed a sales-proposal system, “WO Proposer,” that competes with sales systems from Marketron and OneDomain.

Mathewson says the main advantage of WideOrbit is in its graphical user interface. “It's easy for the average layperson to go in and get information out of the system, while other systems require custom reports or a more advanced user,” he says.

OVERSTATED AND OVERRATED
Mathewson downplays the importance of true centralcasting, such as is done by the Clear Channel stations. He believes that the bandwidth costs are too much for most stations and the labor savings in master control are often overstated. He says that 80% of the value of centralcasting can be achieved just by centralizing the traffic system.

However, he agrees that handling new services through the digital spectrum is a huge driver for traffic systems. Mathewson says some WideOrbit customers want to offer weather, music and news channels in addition to their primary program feed. “They want to traffic all four systems without additional headcount,” he says. “Four years ago, they would have needed a linear growth in staff.”

Marketron's “TV Traffic” customers are also pursuing new revenue opportunities, says Kristen Fechner, Marketron senior VP of business strategy and development. “Our customers want to take advantage of multichannel opportunities with the digital spectrum, as well as out-of-home environments,” she says. “It acts like a channel when it's talking to the traffic system. We want to make it easy to plug in and give them a centralized way to operate that.”

Marketron's TV Sales product is installed in about 800 stations. In many instances, it is integrated into the TV Traffic system, which launched in 2003, although the systems are sold separately. “Marketron is focused on making sure we provide not just a basic inventory-management system but the tools that make that inventory come alive,” says Fechner.

The company is unique in providing a “hosted platform”; all of the traffic data and applications for Marketron's TV clients are hosted by the company's data center, with locations in the Midwest and on the West Coast. This outsourcing arrangement allows customers to log in from anywhere and save money by taking advantage of Marketron's centralized storage.

While such an arrangement would seem to appeal more to smaller broadcasters on a tight budget, Marketron's hosted traffic service has attracted big players as well, including the NBC and Telemundo station groups.

ROLLING OUT H-CLASS
While Harris Broadcast has a large base of traffic customers through its ownership of the Encoda, Columbine and JDS brands, the company is looking to expand market share. It's rolling out its H-Class solution, which integrates traffic, automation, sales and scheduling on one platform, with a focus on international customers and the U.S. cable market. H-Class is designed as a multimedia system that can schedule a Web advertisement as easily as it can cue up an on-air spot.

“We initiated a new development project and created a platform for those organizations that want to run an SQL database on Windows NT to those who want Oracle running on Unix,” explains Taras Bugir, chief strategy officer for Harris Broadcast software systems. “The business layer of H-Class is composed of two platforms: a Java platform with real-time applications for automation, and a Microsoft.net platform for business functions.”

A relatively new player in the U.S. traffic-software market is Pilat Media, a UK-based company that got its start in television by developing a content-management system for satellite broadcaster BSkyB in the late '90s, then branched into sales by adding sales-proposal and traffic systems. Pilat, which has an office in Denver, also offers rights management and scheduling software in a package it calls the Integrated Broadcast Management System.

John Larrabee, VP of North America for Pilat, says that, in this digital age, the days of the basic traffic system are over. “Clients know their future profitability depends on more than what goes on in one department,” he says. “They are looking at their overall cost of operations and their ability to sell things other than 30-second spots.”

Pilat clients include Network 10 in Australia, Playboy Enterprises, Discovery International and National Geographic Channel. Its biggest U.S. customer is Fox Television Stations, which signed on last year to use Pilat content- and sales-management software for its 35 O&Os and 11 regional sports networks. The Fox rollout will begin in mid 2006 and should be completed by the end of 2007, says Larrabee.

He believes a key issue for larger television operations is management reporting through an enterprise-class database. “They want to see what they are doing across all departments,” he explains. “The traffic system might give information about sales performance, but it doesn't include ratings. They want to match up ratings and traffic all in one bundle—the great triangle of ratings, traffic and sales.”

Two other players looking to gain traction are SintecMedia and Broadview Software. SintecMedia, which originated in Israel in 2000, offers a broad solution called “OnAir” that includes traffic, sales proposals, promotion management and billing. It has a large contract with the BBC and counts Canadian Broadcasting Corporation as its biggest North American client.

OnAir was designed for large installations and has a three-tier architecture consisting of Windows clients, an application server tier running on Windows, and a database tier that can run on robust platforms such as Unix, says VP of Marketing Dan Yuval. “Unix machines are usually stronger, and they have a lot of scalability and fault tolerance,” he says. “Those are the kind of elements that are important for a large organization.”

Toronto-based BroadView is supplying a traffic system to PBS as part of the network's initiative to automate program delivery with a file-based workflow, a project called ACE. BroadView is also working with individual PBS stations that purchase the modular ACE system to handle program ingest, storage and playout; WMHT Albany, N.Y., was the first ACE station to launch last fall. BroadView, which does the bulk of its traffic business in Canada, has sold systems to several small U.S. cable networks.

“One of the things that really differentiates us is that we're traffic software that integrates programming functionality,” says Arthur Drevnig, director of sales and marketing for BroadView. “That's our special sauce—particularly for the cable networks, who are acquiring all their own content.”

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Libuda:

Als sechste ´der acht Kernbeteiligungen, die

 
09.03.06 19:17
Private Helds sind, wird Metastorm vorgestellt. Internet Capital hält hier 42%, unwd zwar seit einem knappen halben Jahr. Internet Capital hat seine ehemalige 87%-Beteiligung CommerceQuest eingebracht. Außerdem hat man noch einige Dollar draufgelegt, um den Anteil auf diesen Stand zu bringen. Metastorm ist durch diesen Zusammenschluss der weltweit größte Pure Play im Bereich des Business Process Management - einem der am schnellsten wachsenden Bereiche auf dem Gebiet der betriebswirtschaftlichen Software.

During the fourth quarter MetaStorm, a leading provider of business process management software established itself as a clear leader in the BPM market with the merger of ICG partner company, CommerceQuest. By year-end the two companies were successfully integrated in moving forward. MetaStorm added more than 100 new costumers in 2005 including KPMG, HomeBuy and Ernst and Young.

The Company continue that progress with a recent announcement of a partnership with Thomson Financial, a leading financial services provider deliver a complete end-to to-end research platform for the financial services industry.

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Libuda:

Einfach mal als Ergänzung zum letzten Posting

 
09.03.06 21:42

reinschauen:

www.metastorm.com/news/2006/021306.asp
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