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Dann is ja Crises over! Charts dazu? Wobei SK (9032,xx) nahe am TT (9074,xx). Gerade auch viele earnings...
Schönen Abend - MM
Schönen Abend - MM
(Verkleinert auf 65%) 
"Geld allein macht nicht glücklich.
Es gehören auch noch Aktien, Gold und Gründstücke dazu."
Danny Kaye, (1913-1987), amerikanischer Filmkomiker
Es gehören auch noch Aktien, Gold und Gründstücke dazu."
Danny Kaye, (1913-1987), amerikanischer Filmkomiker
You only learn who has been swimming naked when the tide goes out - W.Buffett
"Geld allein macht nicht glücklich.
Es gehören auch noch Aktien, Gold und Gründstücke dazu."
Danny Kaye, (1913-1987), amerikanischer Filmkomiker
Es gehören auch noch Aktien, Gold und Gründstücke dazu."
Danny Kaye, (1913-1987), amerikanischer Filmkomiker
Der Sieg ist noch nicht eingepreist, mal bis morgen warten
Sehr dick im Minus und volatil!
Dow Future 8970
Nasdaq Future 1272
S&P Future 951
DBK 4688
Dow Future 8970
Nasdaq Future 1272
S&P Future 951
DBK 4688
Das Leben ist wie ein Papierflugzeug, sitzt du drin und es regnet dann bist du am Arsch(In Englisch klingt das besser:))
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klarer ausbruch nach bodenbildung ;-)
"Geld allein macht nicht glücklich.
Es gehören auch noch Aktien, Gold und Gründstücke dazu."
Danny Kaye, (1913-1987), amerikanischer Filmkomiker
Es gehören auch noch Aktien, Gold und Gründstücke dazu."
Danny Kaye, (1913-1987), amerikanischer Filmkomiker
Der Hangseng war heute schon mir positiven Vorgaben aus Amerika nicht wirklich stabil, Nikkei, sollala...Mal sehen ...Aber ich lege mich nicht fest das wir morgen mit dickem Minus starten, würde mich nicht wundern wenn die VW wieder 20% im Plus ist....Who knows...
Nebenbei ich schau gerade Jay Leno, seine Witze über die Amerikanische Wirtschaft sind göttlich! Wie er über Bush immer herzieht...lol
Nebenbei ich schau gerade Jay Leno, seine Witze über die Amerikanische Wirtschaft sind göttlich! Wie er über Bush immer herzieht...lol
Das Leben ist wie ein Papierflugzeug, sitzt du drin und es regnet dann bist du am Arsch(In Englisch klingt das besser:))
So geil:
60.000 Babys krank wegen verseuchter Milch. Wisst ihr wie ernst es ist, die mussten sogar ihre Schuhfirmen zu machen ! So geiiiil
60.000 Babys krank wegen verseuchter Milch. Wisst ihr wie ernst es ist, die mussten sogar ihre Schuhfirmen zu machen ! So geiiiil
Das Leben ist wie ein Papierflugzeug, sitzt du drin und es regnet dann bist du am Arsch(In Englisch klingt das besser:))
Danach Conan OBrien...Noch besser als Jay...:)
Das Leben ist wie ein Papierflugzeug, sitzt du drin und es regnet dann bist du am Arsch(In Englisch klingt das besser:))
sonst grün aktuell.
"Geld allein macht nicht glücklich.
Es gehören auch noch Aktien, Gold und Gründstücke dazu."
Danny Kaye, (1913-1987), amerikanischer Filmkomiker
Es gehören auch noch Aktien, Gold und Gründstücke dazu."
Danny Kaye, (1913-1987), amerikanischer Filmkomiker
Duell.
Wansleben ist echt eine peinliche Sprechblasenmaschine,Mann o Mann ....
Wansleben ist echt eine peinliche Sprechblasenmaschine,Mann o Mann ....
Next in the Financial Crisis: Possible Criminal Charges
POSTED BY:Albert Bozzo
TOPICS:Banking
SECTORS:Financial Services | Banks
COMPANIES:Bear Stearns Companies Inc | Lehman Brothers Fin SA
By Albert Bozzo Senior Features Editor | 21 Oct 2008 | 06:27 PM ET Text Size
Investors and taxpayers angry about the government bailout of seemingly mismanaged financial firms can probably count on a wave of criminal indictments in the months ahead, say white collar crime experts.
“I think we're going to see some ‘perp’ walks,” says Columbia Law School Professor John Coffee, referring to the law enforcement practice of having the accused appear in public wearing handcuffs.
“I think its coming” says securities lawyer Jacob Zamansky, predicting the “outcry for culprits and scapegoats” will be met.
Zamansky, Coffee and others say the government is now busy investigating likely wrongdoing that took place at dozens of firms and that it is just a matter of time before it yields results. But crisis management is taking precedence.
“The government and the private sector are focused on bailing out the ship right now, and rightly so," says former SEC enforcement official Marvin G. Pickholz, now a partner at the New York law firm Duane Morris.
“I think most resources are being channeled toward solving the current crisis,” adds Harvey Pitt, who chaired the SEC during the government’s crackdown on accounting fraud at the beginning of the decade. "I think it will be months before any prosecutions occur, if at all."
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Pickholz adds that election year considerations may also be slowing down the process. US attorneys—who are political appointees—may be unwilling or reluctant to open a case without knowing who’ll be the next president and whether they’ll still be in their jobs.
Recent developments, however, show momentum is building. The government recently issued subpoenaes to a dozen executives at Lehman Brothers, which CNBC learned, included CEO Richard Fuld, two CFOS and a COO.
As CNBC first reported Sept. 24, multiple federal investigations at Lehman and at least 25 other firms are focusing primarily on asset values—that is, whether companies like Lehman were properly valuing things like mortgage-backed securities on their books, as well as the securities they sold to the public.
Dick Fuld
Thus far, there have been only two high-profile indictments. In June, two former hedge fund managers at Bear Stearns were charged with essentially concealing problems that eventually led to the collapse of the funds.
Experts say acts of concealment and/or misrepresentation will no doubt be an area of investigation and potential prosecution for authorities.
Zamansky, who’s representing investors in the Bear Stearns hedge fund case, also sees possible wrongdoing in the way firms were marking assets and brokers pushing bank stocks with diminished prospects and quickly plummeted in value.
The government is going to use its “classic inventory of white collar weapons,” says Coffee, citing securities fraud, mail fraud and racketeering laws.
In some cases, prosecutors will look to make the case that there was a “concerted effort by these firms to mislead the public,” says Zamansky, which is essentially what executives at WorldCom, Enron, Adelphia and others did less than a decade ago.
Experts say prosecutors will comb through email records, looking for inconsistencies between private and public statements, to show that people acted willfully.
“You have CEOS who had conferences with securities analysts and others,” says Coffee, adding that there are transcripts to such events.
Though most expect a wave of indictments, there’s considerable debate about whether any big names will be snared, as was the case with WorldCom founder Bernie Ebbers and Enron CEOs Jeffrey Skilling and Kenneth Lay, all of whom were convicted, or savings-and loan kingpins such as Charles kearing two decades ago.
Pickholz and Zamansky expect CEOs to fall. “I would think so,” says Pickholz, citing Congress’ developing skepticism about top executives not knowing what was going on.
Coffee isn’t so sure. He says though “prosecutors don’t like to just focus on the little guy,” some of the current big name CEOS were “brought in as reformers” and “will portray themselves as guys who came in to clean up the mess.”
Nell Minnow, founder of the Corporate Library, which focuses on corporate governance and CEO pay, is altogether skeptical.
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"In other cases, it was clear from the beginning people had broken the law,” says Minow. “I don’t see executives going to jail over this. Most of what they did is perfectly legal. These people were clever enough to get the loopholes they wanted.”
There's already been plenty of circumstances to beg the question effective legislation, regulation and oversight during a one-of-a-kind lending boom, which has resulted in extraordinary government involvement in the private sector -- after the fact.
Minow says that's added insult to injury for both investors and taxpayers. "The sense of pervasive unfairness is greater in this scandal than any other," she says.
POSTED BY:Albert Bozzo
TOPICS:Banking
SECTORS:Financial Services | Banks
COMPANIES:Bear Stearns Companies Inc | Lehman Brothers Fin SA
By Albert Bozzo Senior Features Editor | 21 Oct 2008 | 06:27 PM ET Text Size
Investors and taxpayers angry about the government bailout of seemingly mismanaged financial firms can probably count on a wave of criminal indictments in the months ahead, say white collar crime experts.
“I think we're going to see some ‘perp’ walks,” says Columbia Law School Professor John Coffee, referring to the law enforcement practice of having the accused appear in public wearing handcuffs.
“I think its coming” says securities lawyer Jacob Zamansky, predicting the “outcry for culprits and scapegoats” will be met.
Zamansky, Coffee and others say the government is now busy investigating likely wrongdoing that took place at dozens of firms and that it is just a matter of time before it yields results. But crisis management is taking precedence.
“The government and the private sector are focused on bailing out the ship right now, and rightly so," says former SEC enforcement official Marvin G. Pickholz, now a partner at the New York law firm Duane Morris.
“I think most resources are being channeled toward solving the current crisis,” adds Harvey Pitt, who chaired the SEC during the government’s crackdown on accounting fraud at the beginning of the decade. "I think it will be months before any prosecutions occur, if at all."
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Continue to Sell Into Rallies: Morgan's Roach
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Credit Spreads and Libor Data
Pickholz adds that election year considerations may also be slowing down the process. US attorneys—who are political appointees—may be unwilling or reluctant to open a case without knowing who’ll be the next president and whether they’ll still be in their jobs.
Recent developments, however, show momentum is building. The government recently issued subpoenaes to a dozen executives at Lehman Brothers, which CNBC learned, included CEO Richard Fuld, two CFOS and a COO.
As CNBC first reported Sept. 24, multiple federal investigations at Lehman and at least 25 other firms are focusing primarily on asset values—that is, whether companies like Lehman were properly valuing things like mortgage-backed securities on their books, as well as the securities they sold to the public.
Dick Fuld
Thus far, there have been only two high-profile indictments. In June, two former hedge fund managers at Bear Stearns were charged with essentially concealing problems that eventually led to the collapse of the funds.
Experts say acts of concealment and/or misrepresentation will no doubt be an area of investigation and potential prosecution for authorities.
Zamansky, who’s representing investors in the Bear Stearns hedge fund case, also sees possible wrongdoing in the way firms were marking assets and brokers pushing bank stocks with diminished prospects and quickly plummeted in value.
The government is going to use its “classic inventory of white collar weapons,” says Coffee, citing securities fraud, mail fraud and racketeering laws.
In some cases, prosecutors will look to make the case that there was a “concerted effort by these firms to mislead the public,” says Zamansky, which is essentially what executives at WorldCom, Enron, Adelphia and others did less than a decade ago.
Experts say prosecutors will comb through email records, looking for inconsistencies between private and public statements, to show that people acted willfully.
“You have CEOS who had conferences with securities analysts and others,” says Coffee, adding that there are transcripts to such events.
Though most expect a wave of indictments, there’s considerable debate about whether any big names will be snared, as was the case with WorldCom founder Bernie Ebbers and Enron CEOs Jeffrey Skilling and Kenneth Lay, all of whom were convicted, or savings-and loan kingpins such as Charles kearing two decades ago.
Pickholz and Zamansky expect CEOs to fall. “I would think so,” says Pickholz, citing Congress’ developing skepticism about top executives not knowing what was going on.
Coffee isn’t so sure. He says though “prosecutors don’t like to just focus on the little guy,” some of the current big name CEOS were “brought in as reformers” and “will portray themselves as guys who came in to clean up the mess.”
Nell Minnow, founder of the Corporate Library, which focuses on corporate governance and CEO pay, is altogether skeptical.
RELATED LINKS
Layoffs Spreading Across US
Slideshow: Jobs Most at Risk
Caterpillar Cutting Jobs
Major Management Changes Seen at Merrill Lynch
"In other cases, it was clear from the beginning people had broken the law,” says Minow. “I don’t see executives going to jail over this. Most of what they did is perfectly legal. These people were clever enough to get the loopholes they wanted.”
There's already been plenty of circumstances to beg the question effective legislation, regulation and oversight during a one-of-a-kind lending boom, which has resulted in extraordinary government involvement in the private sector -- after the fact.
Minow says that's added insult to injury for both investors and taxpayers. "The sense of pervasive unfairness is greater in this scandal than any other," she says.
Das Leben ist wie ein Papierflugzeug, sitzt du drin und es regnet dann bist du am Arsch(In Englisch klingt das besser:))
endlich den durchbruch, bei 4600 zu sehen ,zumindest in den ersten zwei handelsstunden.Die amis stehen denke ich kurz vor dem nächsten abverkauf, der dow kommt einfach nicht vom fleck .Es liegt also auf der hand was als nächstes passiert, wie gesagt staatlich konrolliertes luftablassen in den us indizes.....wünsche allen viel erfolg P.s arbeitet euch lieber von oben nach unten mit weiten shorts vor,dat mit calls ist sehr unsicher im moment wir fallen noch bis locker mitte 2009 und die stimmung wird erst noch anfangen schlecht zum werden .Ist nur meine meinung,die hat mich wenn ich ehrlich bin noch nie im stich gelassen
die 4600 wird nicht reichen da der euro sehr stark gefallen ist, denke 4500 ist machbar wenn vw mitspielt und weiter luft ablässt.
und ein fallender Euro ist aber eigentlich positiv für die Börse.
Warten wir mal ab was kommt, so ohne wichtige Zahlen sind wir ja eh ein bisschen Ziellos heute.
Prinzipiell würde ich aber sagen das wir im Vergleich zu den USA schon relativ tief gefallen sind.
Warten wir mal ab was kommt, so ohne wichtige Zahlen sind wir ja eh ein bisschen Ziellos heute.
Prinzipiell würde ich aber sagen das wir im Vergleich zu den USA schon relativ tief gefallen sind.
ist stärker. Aber auch der Yen ist extrem gefallen, d. h. es müsste auch im Dax heute ordentlich nach unten gehen.
Der Aufwärtstrend seit Tiefstand 4300 (am 10.10) verläuft bei 4676, ich denke der wird gebrochen. Nächste Unterstützung bei 4580.
...viel Glück @all
Der Aufwärtstrend seit Tiefstand 4300 (am 10.10) verläuft bei 4676, ich denke der wird gebrochen. Nächste Unterstützung bei 4580.
...viel Glück @all
(Verkleinert auf 87%)
einer Stabilisierung der Aktienmärkte...
Die Druckerschwärze ist noch nicht trocken, da macht der Nikkei MINUS 6 % !
:)
Die Druckerschwärze ist noch nicht trocken, da macht der Nikkei MINUS 6 % !
:)
wo kann man den nikkei einsehen?
gruss aus ostfriesland.
gruss aus ostfriesland.
endemisch, weil
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