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baggo-mh:

für tech interessierte

 
17.05.24 14:11

Auf der HV im letzten Jahr erfuhr ich, dass ein SiC wafer (substrate) ca $ 5.000 kosten kann. Das war eine riesige Überraschung für mich, da diese ja nur die Träger für die eigentliche SiC chips (devices) sind.

Auf der HV in 2024 habe ich gelernt, dass ein SiC ingot (boule) aus dem die SiC wafer geschnitten werden nur 3 bis 5 cm lang ist.

Hier ist Ergebnisse der Gemini Befragung:


how long is a SiC or silicon carbide boule?

Unlike the thickness of wafers which is dependent on the boule's diameter, the length of a SiC boule is significantly shorter compared to silicon ingots. Here's the key difference:

  • SiC boule: The length falls in the range of 30 to 50 millimeters (mm) [2].
  • Silicon ingot: These can reach lengths of several meters, typically multiple times longer than SiC boules.

This difference arises from the growth process. Growing SiC crystals is more complex and has a slower growth rate compared to silicon. This translates to shorter boules despite the significant cost involved in SiC production.


How thick is a SiC or silicon carbide wafer boule?

Silicon carbide (SiC) wafers are sliced from a larger cylindrical chunk called a boule. The thickness of the wafer itself depends on the diameter of the boule. Here's a breakdown:

  • 150 mm diameter boules: Wafers sliced from these boules typically have a thickness of around 350 micrometers (µm) [3].
  • 200 mm diameter boules: As the diameter increases, so does the wafer thickness for better stability. In this case, the wafers are around 500 micrometers (µm) thick [2].

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Gemini AI

 
17.05.24 14:20

has also found a related video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeSXVKLj8kg

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baggo-mh:

Infineon

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19.05.24 12:05

There are indications that Infineon could be the 3rd Top 5 SiC customer which Aixtron has won.

Information comes from: Ng Kok Tiong is Senior Vice President and Managing Director of Infineon Technologies (Kulim)

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Engineers at this fab will carry out all aspects on front-end processing, including production of SiC substrates from boules provided by five suppliers – two from China, two from the US, and one from Japan. Helping increase the margins associated with this process is the Cold Split technology that Infineon acquired from Siltectra in 2018. “With this new technology you can reduce some of the losses of the raw material,” says Ng.
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So if they cuts the substrates themselves from boules, Infineon for sure will do the epitaxy step themselves as well.

I still believe Infineon will be or is a SiC customer of Aixtron. Jeffries is also of that opinion: "Most importantly this includes a top 5 player (whom we believe to be Infineon given the CEO’s previous senior position and strong connections there),"

https://powerelectronicsworld.net/article/118350/...s_biggest_SiC_fab

While emphasis is initially on SiC at Kulim 3, efforts are also underway to develop GaN products at this site. The first steps towards this, now underway, involves the qualification of the growth process.

I find this also very, very interesting, as Aixtron hold a >90% market share in GaN Epitaxy tools.

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20.05.24 14:36
i wonder who will be Aixtrons competitores when everyone is switching to GaN. Veeco is already there but Aixtron holds,  as for now, over 90% market share
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fel216:

Wolfspeed CEO interview

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21.05.24 09:59
Hi all,

given that Wolfspeed is a substantial customer for Aixtron and given the high uncertainty around EVs, I found this Q&A session with Wolfspeed CEO at the JPM conference interesting.
It will be interesting to follow if/when the applications for SIC broaden out and/or when the EV sentiment changes. I think that will be a key driver for Aixtrons stock going forward along with the Q2 order intake as well as the Q3/FY revenue guidance.

jpmorgan.metameetings.net/events/tmc24/...cast/general_signin

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Fel
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Wolfspeed CEO on 200mm SiC

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21.05.24 17:20

"25% utilization rate of Mohawk Valley supported from Building 10" (which is materials = SiC 200 wafers and crystals = SiC epitaxy layer done with Aixtron G10-SiC)

"we are very very pleased with the defectivity of the crstals"
"the hardest thing is to get the crystals right and the team has done a superior job with that"

"120 car models form 30 OEMs...... slowing of existing EV's is not what we are in"
"we remain capacity constrained .....the demand for our product is higher than our capacity"
"integrated........ into server farms" "Si chips for AI server farms redesigned to be replaced by SiC MOSFETs"
"all roads lead back to Wolfspeed as we have such high % in substrates"
"material agreemntss that we sign are all on 150 (mm)" duration roughly half a decade

CFO: "50% of our revenue comes from materials"

Very, very interesting Q&A type Interview. Thanks a million fel216

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Nvidia!!

 
22.05.24 22:29
Rekord-Quartalsumsatz von 26,0 Milliarden US-Dollar, 18 % mehr als im vierten Quartal und 262 % mehr als vor einem Jahr  
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Aixtron / Veeco ...

 
28.05.24 09:22
ich nuss mir die Augen reiben. Es ist unfassbar, was mit Aixtron hier passiert. Veeco ist im gleichen Segment tätig und steht kurz vor der 39 €  
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Ist Alset AI die nächste Tech-Sensation unter 1 Euro?
 
28.05.24 15:53
as far as i know Veeco has extra business in segments where Aixtron has no business in and those segments are joining the AI hype. Thats why Veeco is doing better than Aixtron.
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josselin_beau.:

QRT - ein Bericht

 
28.05.24 20:26

https://www.businessinsider.de/wirtschaft/aktien-attacke-londoner-investmentfirma-setzt-milliarde-gegen-dax-firmen/

à bientôt

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CWL1:

Aixtron's Country Sales Statistics

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30.05.24 12:09
Notice that in 2023 there were ~160m sales in Europe excluding Germany.  Big jump from previous years.
There were only about 6m sales to Korea+Japan in 2023.
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CWL1:

Sales to Korea Come in 2024

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30.05.24 12:23
Translated news:

On May 22, according to Korean media reports, DB HiTek plans to introduce relevant equipment needed for the production of gallium nitride devices in the third quarter of this year and complete mass production preparations by the end of this year.

An industry insider said that DB HiTek plans to introduce Aixtron MOCVD equipment to its Sangwoo Fab in Hyangseong, Chungbuk Province, with the goal of installing the equipment in the third quarter and establishing the process flow in the fourth quarter. The GaN foundry is expected to start operations from the beginning of next year.

DB HiTek has been active in the field of third-generation semiconductors in the past two years. In December last year, DB HiTek announced an investment of 400 billion won (about 2.12 billion yuan), with the goal of increasing the production capacity of gallium nitride to 10,000 pieces per month by 2026. The project is expected to have additional investment.

According to "Experts Say Three and a Half Generations", the company has also invested 700 billion won (about 3.72 billion yuan) to enter the silicon carbide market, with a target mass production time of 2028 and an estimated production capacity of 20,000 pieces per month. To this end, SiC ion implantation equipment will also be introduced to Sangwoo Fab in the third quarter of this year.

In addition to DB Hitech, many Korean manufacturers are also promoting the commercialization of GaN foundry services. For example, Samsung Electronics and Key Foundry also purchase metal organic chemical vapor deposition (MOCVD) equipment from Aixtron. Among them, Samsung Electronics plans to fully mass-produce gallium nitride semiconductors next year.
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CWL1:

2024 in Korea: DB Hitek, Key Foundry and Samsung

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30.05.24 12:34
My previous post om DB HItek is the continuing development of the story in post #1500 about Felix Grawert's visit to Korea in 2023:

From #1500:

In particular, it is reported in the industry that Samsung Electronics decided to introduce Excitron's latest GaN/SiC MOCVD equipment at a minimum cost of 700 to 800 billion won during this discussion.

800B won is about 500m euros
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CWL1:

Sanan and STMicro's JV in Chongqing China

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30.05.24 14:44
This JV between Sanan and STMicroelectronics was announced one year ago and progress is being made with recent updates.  Sanan reportedly use mainly Nuflare's SiC reactors for its 150m for epi wafer manufacturing.  Will it use G10-SiC for this 200mm JV?  Stay tuned.
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Over 22 billion yuan project "landed" STMicroelectronics and Sanan Optoelectronics' silicon carbide plan
June 08, 2023 20:20 21st Century Business Herald 21 Finance APP Zhang Sainan
21st Century Business Herald reporter Zhang Sainan reports from Shanghai

The two major semiconductor companies will work together to implement projects worth more than 22 billion yuan.

On June 7, STMicroelectronics and Sanan Optoelectronics (600703.SH) both officially announced that the two parties will jointly establish a joint venture foundry company specializing in silicon carbide epitaxy and chip production - Sanan STMicroelectronics (Chongqing) Co., Ltd. (tentative name, hereinafter referred to as the "joint venture company").

According to the announcement, the total investment amount of the project is expected to be US$3.2 billion (about RMB 22.8 billion), which will be invested in succession according to the progress of the joint venture. The joint venture is mainly engaged in silicon carbide epitaxy and chip production. The project will start construction after obtaining approval for various procedures, complete phased construction and gradually put into production in 2025, and reach full production in 2028. It is planned to produce 10,000 8-inch silicon carbide wafers per week after reaching full production.

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STMicroelectronics

 
31.05.24 13:14
STMicroelectronics to build the world’s first fully integrated silicon carbide facility in Italy
STMicroelectronics N.V.
Fri, May 31, 2024, 2:14 AM EDT4 min read

"... including SiC substrate development, epitaxial growth processes, 200mm front-end wafer fabrication "

finance.yahoo.com/news/...ld-world-first-fully-061400783.html
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CWL1:

Progress on the Sanan STMicroelectronics JV

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31.05.24 13:21
Recently, the Chongqing silicon carbide epitaxy and chip project jointly built by Sanan and STMicroelectronics has made new progress.

According to the Hunan Liujian Huaxi Company, on May 18, the 8-inch silicon carbide epitaxial and chip project (living service facility area) of STMicroelectronics was fully capped . The project started in November 2023, with a construction period of 257 days and a total construction area of ​​37,000 square meters. It mainly includes four dormitory buildings A1 to A4 and Building C1 (canteen and activity center).

Just last month (April), STMicroelectronics' 8-inch silicon carbide epitaxial and chip project announced that the main structure had been topped out and is currently advancing interior decoration and equipment procurement. It is expected to be put into production in August this year , two months ahead of schedule.

According to a previous report by "Experts Talk about Three and a Half Generations", the project is jointly built by Hunan San'an (51% stake) and STMicroelectronics (49% stake), with a total investment of approximately RMB 23 billion . After the entire plant is completed, it will be able to produce 520,000 automotive-grade SiC MOSFET chips annually.

www.eet-china.com/mp/a317092.html
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SiC Epi Engineer Job in Chongqing

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31.05.24 15:07

This is from an unkonwn company in Chhongqing where the JV resides.

SiC Epitaxy Development Engineer

Chongqing   5-10 years Undergraduate

Job Description: 1. Research and develop epitaxial growth process according to the epitaxial structure design of SiC devices; 2. Participate in the research, selection, move in, secondary matching, installation and equipment acceptance of epitaxial equipment, release production capacity in time within the required time and ensure that the new equipment meets the process requirements...

Job Requirements: 1. ... 4. Those with epitaxial R&D experience of AIXTRON G5+ MOCVD machine are preferred;...

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SamanthaK:

Projects

 
31.05.24 21:56
nice info, thanks!
but the "stock problem" is that the stocks of the customers will mostly perform better than Aixtron the supplier.

Aixtron will sell x y machines. as i understood they tend to run for a minimum of 5-10 years. so Aixtron at some point will have to decide if they might try to enter new segments  ( fingers crossed MircoLED will work ) because the customer will always be able to make profit of the machines while Aixtron can only calculate on Service fees etc.
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01.06.24 08:45
we shouldnt forget that Aixtron SiC is very much connected with EV (Aixtrons customers) so as long there are negative views on the development of the EV market ( new taxes/customs for china aso. ) Aixtron wont perform well. The MicroLED fantasy vanished.
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derkralle:

Erweiterung

 
03.06.24 16:32
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baggo-mh:

Meine Theorie

 
03.06.24 20:58

CWL1 schon einen Bezug zu STM herstellen können - wenn auch anecdotal. I love your anecdotes CWL1 but ran out of stars to honor it. More please if you can.

Am 31.05.: läuft das über die Ticker: www.finanznachrichten.de/...carbide-facility-in-italy-020.htm

Am Montag darauf 3.6. gibt Aixtron den Erwerb einer Produktionsstätte in Italien bekannt.  "The plant, which is expected to be the world's first fully integrated silicon carbide facility, will be built under the company's projected 5 billion euros multi-year investment program, including 2 billion euros support provided by the State of Italy in the framework of the EU Chips Act.

Ich vermute, dass die Subventionen nur in voller Höhe gezahlt werden, wenn die benötigten Maschinen das Label - Made in Italy - tragen.

So würde es für mich Sinn ergeben was Aixtron gerade macht. Man darf nicht vergessen, dass
- Aixtron den 3ten Top 5 SiC Customer namentlich nicht bekanntgeben hat.
- San'an und STM gerade eine 200mm (materials = wafer) Produktion in China aus dem Boden stampfen

Schaun mer mal

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baggo-mh:

Navitas KI Rechenzentren

 
04.06.24 11:41

Navitas ist bekannlich Aixtron Kunde.

https://www.leistungselektronik.de/...fcf93080d2e3c13cb9eb8e1003ef8f/

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Aixtron acquires a third production site PT 33 BUY

 
04.06.24 12:36

Aixtron acquires a third production site at a bargain price; BUY

Acquisition of production site in Italy. Aixtron announced the acquisition of a production site near Turin from an undisclosed seller, adding to its existing production sites in Herzogenrath (Germany) and Cambridge (UK). The site is an existing facility with the necessary utilities. Aixtron's production is very lean, consisting mainly of assembly and intensive testing, so production at the new site can be ramped up quickly, with the first tools possibly being shipped later this year. The new site will enable Aixtron to increase capacity by 30-40% in a short period of time, with further capacity expansion possible in the future with relatively low capital investment. All of Aixtron's tools can be built at the new site, and Aixtron expects to ship a significant portion of its production from there within two to three years.

Attractive purchase price. Aixtron earlier this year guided for capex of EUR 100m to 120m for FY24. The capex to acquire the site and get it ready for production, estimated at very low double digit million Euro figure, according to the company is included in this number. Aixtron has not disclosed whether the new site will be supported by subsidy schemes. However, STMicroelectronics this week announced plans to build a new factory in Catania, Italy, at an expected cost of EUR 5bn, with subsidies under the EU Chips Act expected to cover EUR 2bn of the total bill. It would be surprising if Aixtron's investment did not also benefit from subsidies.

https://www.research-hub.de/companies/AIXTRON%2520SE

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