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HAHAHA:

konservative Biotech-empfehlung meinerseits

 
05.02.01 14:24
AFFYMETRIX - Biochiphersteller bringt heute nach Börseschluss Zahlen, die meinen EInschätzungen zu Folge nur gut ausfallen können.

Zwar werden diese Zahlen wegen einer Übernahme etwas belastet, aber die Verkaufszahlen ihrer Produkte  - können meiner Meinung nach nur sehr sehr postiv ausfallen, nachdem die Biochips mehr und mehr in die Wissenschaft und "wisenschaftliche Klinik" eingedrungen sind und es eigentlich KEIN ZURÜCK mehr für diese Technologie gibt.

Informiert Euch - meine Empfehlung: Trading buy wegen der Zahlen. (nach den letzten Zahlen ging es +30% in die Höhe).

Aber einer ganz wenigen Biotech-Titel, die fair bewertet sind, 2001 schwarze Zahlen schreiben werden und dennoch genug Phantasie haben - daher auch ein längerfristiger Kauf. Charttechnisch sieht es meiner Meinung nach nicht schlecht aus und der Bereich um die 60 gibt gute Unterstützung.

Eure Einschätzung dazu ?

HAHA



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Sherlock:

AFFX halte für sehr aussichtsreich. ich halte auch

 
05.02.01 14:32
eine größere Postition. Hoffen wir mal, daß die Zahlen gut ausfallen. Aber auch wenn nicht, ist AFFX auf diesem Niveau ein Kauf, wenn man länger als ein Jahr investieren will. Ich habe mich darauf eingestellt, AFFX 10-15 Jahre zu halten. Wenn sich die Technologie wirklich durchsetzt, spielt AFFX wahrscheinlich die erste Geige und könnte zu einer Cisco der Biotech"infrastruktur" werden.

Sherlock
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LiveInScience:

JA Aber

 
05.02.01 14:37
Prinzipiell bin ich auch von AFFX ueberzeugt aber der Chip ist kein Allheilmittel! Viele Labs verschaerbeln ihre Chip-Scanner bereits weil die Chips fast unbezahlbarsind! Oder spotten iHRE Chips lieber individuell (mach ich auch) Dauert zwar mit recher und allem drum und dran so ca 2 Jahre kommt aber unter Strich billiger.
Vorteil vob Affx ist die Software und die Koorperationen mit Indistrie.
Zudem haelt Glaxo ueber 20% von Affx und die haben in the Longterm immer ne gute nase!
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HAHAHA:

re

 
05.02.01 14:49
Die Chips sind in der Tat noch sehr sehr teuer - was auch der Grund ist, warum sie derzeit nur an den "besseren bzw. finanziell potenteren Kliniken und Forschungsstätten verwendet werden.

Die Preise werden noch deutlich fallen - und ich denke, dass viele nur darauf warten, dass die Chips billiger werden - ist doch bei jeder neuen Technologie so. Habe so mitverfolgt die medizinisch-wissenschaftlichen Kongresse in den letzten 12 Monaten - ohne "Micro arrays" oder "Biochips" gibt es kaum noch Veranstaltungen.

@sherlock - die Technologie selbst ist nicht mehr aufzuhalten - zu gross schon die ersten Erfolge und die Bedeutung für eine hochindividuelle Therapie und Prognose (damit auch grosse Einsparungspotentiale in den Therapemassnahmen) wird von Jahr zu Jahr weiter stark steigen.

Zudem gibt es auch schon beeindruckende Ergebnisse - schon alleine durch das Screening bei bestimmten Lymphosarkomen, Melanomen und Brusttumoren, durch dessen Erkenntnisse man schon vor Beginn einer Therapie sagen, welche derzeitig am Markt befindelichen Medikamente - von Nutzem sein werden - aber auch da ist man erst am Beginn - aber wie gesagt - erste beeindruckende Ergebnisse sind schon da - und weitere folgen fast monatlich.

Ich bin mir sicher, dass wir 10 Jahren - genauso wie sich die "Enzymautomaten" für die Blutuntersuchung durchgesetzt haben (und dabei immer billiger geworden sind) - bei allen FAchärzten für Labormedizin und in allen Krankenhäusern diese Methode zur Verfügung steht.

DIe grossen Krankenhäuser haben längst damit angefangen - ebenso wie finanzstärkere Forschungseinrichtungen und die "genomische Pharmaindustrie".

haha  
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Sherlock:

Umso besser. :-) oT

 
05.02.01 14:53
Sherlock
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preisfuchs:

an affy glaube ich schon lange nicht mehr o.T.

 
05.02.01 15:28
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preisfuchs:

upps vertippt meinte affx o.T.

 
05.02.01 15:29
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HAHAHA:

zu 60 USD gekauft o.T.

 
05.02.01 20:43
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Parocorp:

deine waren die......

 
05.02.01 20:50
die 500 oder die 1000 stk !

;)
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preisfuchs:

@HAHAHA ist affx konservativ?

 
05.02.01 20:53
den wert stecke ich persönlich zu den eher spekulativen aktien ein.
sei lieb gegrüsst
preisfuchs
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HAHAHA:

re

 
05.02.01 21:02
klar ist AFFX spekulativ - aber im Feld der Biotechs würde ich AFFX eher noch auf der konservativen Seite einreihen.

Nicht so konservativ wie Amgen, Biogen ode Qiagen (obwohl Quiagen auf grund seiner Bewertung auch als sehr spekulativ einzuordnen ist) - aber wenn ich vergleiche mit den ganzen "genomischen Biotechs"  -dann ist AFFX klar konservativ.

haha  
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preisfuchs:

hmm, wenn man das so ansieht, habe ich nur

 
05.02.01 21:16
konservative werte im depot ;-)
aber ich versteh schon wie du das meinst. wollte dich nicht hochnehmen.
grüssle
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HAHAHA:

SK: 62, wo gibt es am schnellsten die ZAHLEN

 
05.02.01 22:11
auf welcher US - www-seite ?


danke
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redcrx:

zahlen evtl. bei

 
05.02.01 22:21
$$$ www.newsalert.com $$$
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HAHAHA:

AFFX-Zahlen

 
05.02.01 22:47
Affymetrix Reports Record 2000 Results

Core Business Achieves More Than $200 Million in Total Revenues

Core Business Attains Second Consecutive Profitable Quarter Excluding Charges

SANTA CLARA, Calif., Feb. 5 /PRNewswire/ -- Affymetrix, Inc., (Nasdaq: AFFX) today reported record results for its fourth quarter and fiscal year 2000. Highlights of the year included the shipment of more than 200,000 GeneChip(R) arrays and the sale of more than 150 GeneChip systems culminating in more than $200 million in total revenue. After adjusting for the impact of acquisition related charges and Affymetrix' funding of the public mouse genome sequencing effort, Affymetrix' core operations achieved their second consecutive quarter of profitability.

"During 2000 we successfully scaled manufacturing and sustained high yields. We implemented another cycle of Moore's Law by reducing feature sizes resulting in twice the genetic information content on a single array. In addition, we grew our worldwide sales and support infrastructure which led to our customer base expanding by more than three-fold," said Stephen P.A. Fodor, Ph.D., Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Affymetrix. "This operational growth was complemented by major strategic initiatives that will continue to allow Affymetrix to provide leading-edge whole genome products to the worldwide research community."

Fourth quarter total revenue was $59.4 million, up 70% over the fourth quarter of 1999. For the year, total revenue was $200.8 million, an increase of 84% over 1999. Product sales in the fourth quarter were $51.3 million, up 58% over the fourth quarter of 1999. For the year, product sales were $173.5 million, an increase of 77% over 1999. The increase in product sales during the fourth quarter and year ended December 31, 2000 over the comparable periods in 1999 was the result of increased sales of GeneChip probe arrays, increased placements of instruments (primarily the GeneChip system and components, the 417 Arrayer(TM) and the 428 Scanner(TM)) and increased technology access fees earned under EasyAccess(TM) contracts.

Other revenues, which include license fees, royalties and research revenue were $8.1 million for the fourth quarter and $27.3 million for the year, compared to $2.5 million and $10.9 million in the corresponding periods of 1999. The increase in other revenues was attributable primarily to the expansion of licensing initiatives.

Total costs and expenses, excluding charges resulting from the acquisitions of Genetic MicroSystems, Inc. and Neomorphic, Inc., increased to $64.8 million for the quarter from $41.7 million for the comparable period in 1999. For the year 2000, total costs and expenses, excluding acquisition related charges, increased to $221.2 million, compared to $139.3 million in 1999. The increase in operating expenses for the quarter and year compared to the respective periods in 1999, resulted primarily from the Company's expansion of commercial activities, increases in research and development activities, including those associated with Perlegen Sciences, Inc. and increased legal costs arising from ongoing patent litigation.

Excluding acquisition related charges, Affymetrix reported a net loss of $3.4 million or $0.06 per share in the fourth quarter compared to a net loss of $5.5 million, or $0.10 per share in the fourth quarter of 1999. For the year ended December 31, 2000, Affymetrix reported a net loss excluding acquisition related charges of $13.1 million or $0.24 per share compared with a net loss of $27.6 million or $0.54 per share in 1999. Excluding the one time expense of $3.5 million associated with Affymetrix' sponsorship of the public mouse genome sequencing initiative in the fourth quarter, Affymetrix earned $0.1 million, representing the Company's second consecutive profitable quarter from core operations.

In March 2000, Affymetrix acquired Genetic MicroSystems, a privately-held instrumentation company specializing in DNA array technology, in a transaction accounted for as a pooling of interests. In connection with the acquisition, Affymetrix issued approximately 1.0 million shares of common stock and approximately 0.1 million options to acquire shares, and incurred direct acquisition costs of approximately $2.4 million. Comparative 1999 results have been restated to reflect the pooling.

During the fourth quarter of 2000, Affymetrix completed its acquisition of Neomorphic, a privately held bioinformatics company, for $75.6 million. As consideration for the acquisition, Affymetrix issued approximately 1.3 million shares of Affymetrix common stock and paid cash in the amount of $2.4 million in exchange for all of the outstanding shares of Neomorphic. Affymetrix also granted options to purchase approximately 0.1 million Affymetrix shares in exchange for the assumption of all of Neomorphic's stock options.

In connection with the Neomorphic transaction, the Company recognized a $15.0 million one-time charge for in-process R&D. The Company also recorded goodwill and other intangibles of $26.8 million, which are being amortized over five and three years. For the fourth quarter, amortization of goodwill and other purchased intangibles amounted to $1.0 million. The Company also recorded $30.0 million of deferred stock compensation which will be amortized over the remaining vesting period, principally three years. In the fourth quarter, this amortization amounted to $2.1 million.

Including acquisition related charges, Affymetrix reported a net loss of $21.5 million, or $0.38 per share in the fourth quarter compared to a net loss of $5.5 million, or $0.10 per share in the fourth quarter of 1999. For the year ended December 31, 2000, including acquisition related charges, Affymetrix reported a net loss of $33.6 million or $0.61 per share compared to a net loss of $27.6 million or $0.54 per share in 1999.

During the fourth quarter of 2000 and first part of 2001, Affymetrix continued to expand the market for DNA arrays by entering into numerous GeneChip array supply agreements with pharmaceutical, biotechnology and academic customers. For the year, Affymetrix introduced 17 new products, shipped more than 200,000 arrays, more than 150 GeneChip systems, and over 375 Affymetrix Arrayers and Scanners. To date, Affymetrix has sold over 400 GeneChip systems and over 650 Affymetrix Arrayers and Scanners.

During the year, Affymetrix further encouraged widespread adoption of its technology by increasing the number of EasyAccess, AcademicAccess(TM) and BiotechAccess(TM) customers. Recently, the Company added Biogen, Inc., Pharmacia Corporation, and Byk Gulden, The Pharmaceutical Group of ALTANA AG to Affymetrix' growing list of EasyAccess Silver customers. Additionally, Affymetrix added Sumitomo Pharmaceuticals Co., Ltd. to its EasyAccess Silver customer list through an agreement with Amersham Pharmacia Biotech KK. Affymetrix also signed BiotechAccess agreements with Lexicon Genetics Incorporated, PPD Discovery, the drug discovery subsidiary of PPD, Inc., MediGene AG, Isis Pharmaceuticals, Inc., Iceland Genomics Corporation, Celgene-Signal Research Division and Sangamo BioSciences, Inc.

Also during 2000, Affymetrix accelerated its commitment to expand the DNA array field through its licensing program. Under this program, Affymetrix provides both commercial and internal use licenses to its patent estate, which includes more than 100 issued and 300 pending patents in the United States. In the fourth quarter, the Company signed licensing agreements with Genomic Solutions Inc., Tanox Pharma, B.V., a subsidiary of Tanox, Inc. and the Medical Research Council, bringing the total number of licenses granted to nearly 30.

During the year, Affymetrix also announced several strategic initiatives that will position the Company to uniquely benefit from the flood of new information arising from worldwide genome sequencing efforts. First was the acquisition of Neomorphic, a privately held computational genomics company. The acquisition will enable Affymetrix to offer scientists an integrated view of the genome on chips that are linked to databases of networked scientific information, along with powerful new tools to interpret and understand the assembled genomic sequences. The Company also formed a new genomics discovery subsidiary, Perlegen Sciences, to focus on biological and pharmaceutical research by using Affymetrix' technology to scan 50 genomes and identify the millions of genetic variations and patterns in those variations among individuals. Finally, Affymetrix joined a public-private initiative to decipher the mouse genome sequence in order to make the mouse sequence freely and broadly available to researchers worldwide.

Affymetrix is a leader in developing and commercializing systems to acquire, analyze and manage complex genetic information in order to improve the quality of life. The Company's GeneChip system consists of disposable DNA probe arrays containing gene sequences on a chip, reagents for use with the probe arrays, a scanner and other instruments to process the probe arrays and software to analyze and manage genetic information. The Company's spotted array system enables individual researchers to create and analyze custom microarrays on an easy-to-use, cost efficient platform. Additional information on Affymetrix and GeneChip technology can be found at www.affymetrix.com.

Investors may listen to Affymetrix' management discuss this announcement by dialing domestic: 800-280-2151; international: 415-904-2425; passcode: 1959 on Monday, February 5, 2001 from 2:00-3:00 p.m. PST. A replay of this call will be available until February 8, 2001 at 4:00 p.m. PST, domestic: 800-633-8284; international: 858-812-6440; reservation number: 17729416. To access a Webcast of the conference call, visit Affymetrix' Website at www.affymetrix.com.

All statements in this press release that are not historical are "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act as amended, including statements regarding Affymetrix' "expectations," "beliefs," "hopes," "intentions," "strategies" or the like. Such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially for Affymetrix from those projected, including, but not limited to, uncertainties relating to technological approaches, product development, manufacturing, market acceptance, personnel retention, equity dilution, uncertainties related to the ability to realize benefits from acquisitions, uncertainties related to cost and pricing of Affymetrix products, dependence on collaborative partners, uncertainties relating to sole source suppliers, uncertainties relating to FDA and other regulatory approvals, competition, risks relating to intellectual property of others and the uncertainties of patent protection and litigation. These and other risk factors are discussed in Affymetrix' Annual Report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 1999 and other SEC reports, including its Quarterly Reports on Form 10-Q for subsequent quarterly periods. Affymetrix expressly disclaims any obligation or undertaking to release publicly any updates or revisions to any forward-looking statements contained herein to reflect any change in Affymetrix' expectations with regard thereto or any change in events, conditions, or circumstances on which any such statements are based. Affymetrix, GeneChip and the Affymetrix logo are registered trademarks used by Affymetrix, Inc.

                              AFFYMETRIX, INC.
              CONDENSED CONSOLIDATED STATEMENTS OF OPERATIONS
                  (In thousands, except per share amounts)


                             Three Months Ended        Twelve Months Ended
                                December 31,               December 31,
                             2000          1999         2000          1999

   Revenue:
    Product               $51,319       $32,455     $173,546       $98,168
    Research                1,051         1,323        5,780         8,059
    License fees and
     royalties              7,049         1,149       21,504         2,847
     Total revenue         59,419        34,927      200,830       109,074
   Costs and expenses:
    Cost of product
     revenue               19,922        13,501       69,039        42,219
    Research and
     development           18,494        12,396       57,384        43,524
    Selling, general and
     administrative        26,508        15,838       94,842        53,590
    Merger related costs       --            --        2,395            --
    Amortization of
     deferred stock
     compensation           2,118            --        2,118            --
    Amortization of
     purchased intangibles    997            --          997            --
   Charge for in-process
    technology             14,989            --       14,989            --
     Total costs and
      expenses             83,028        41,735      241,764       139,333
   Loss from operations  (23,609)       (6,808)     (40,934)      (30,259)
   Interest income, net     2,717         1,259        7,976         4,755
   Net loss before
    income taxes and
    preferred stock
    dividends            (20,892)       (5,549)     (32,958)      (25,504)
   Provision for
    income taxes            (600)            --        (600)            --
   Net loss after
    provision for
    income taxes         (21,492)       (5,549)     (33,558)      (25,504)
   Preferred stock
    dividends                  --            --           --       (2,055)
   Net loss attributable
    to common
    stockholders        $(21,492)      $(5,549)    $(33,558)     $(27,559)
   Basic and diluted
    net loss per
    common share          $(0.38)       $(0.10)      $(0.61)       $(0.54)
   Weighted-average
    shares used in
    computing basic and
    diluted net loss
    per common share       56,167        53,886       55,035        51,167

Note: Certain prior year balances have been reclassified to conform with the current year presentation.

                              AFFYMETRIX, INC.
         CONDENSED CONSOLIDATED PROFORMA STATEMENTS OF OPERATIONS *
                   EXCLUDING ACQUISITION-RELATED CHARGES
                  (In thousands, except per share amounts)

                             Three Months Ended        Twelve Months Ended
                                December 31,               December 31,
                             2000          1999         2000          1999

   Revenue:
   Product               $ 51,319      $ 32,455    $ 173,546      $ 98,168
   Research                 1,051         1,323        5,780         8,059
   License fees and
    royalties               7,049         1,149       21,504         2,847
     Total revenue         59,419        34,927      200,830       109,074
   Costs and expenses:
   Cost of product
    revenue                19,922        13,501       69,039        42,219
   Research and
    development            18,494        12,396       57,384        43,524
   Selling, general
    and administrative     26,508        15,838       94,842        53,590
   Total costs and
    expenses               64,924        41,735      221,265       139,333
   Loss from operations   (5,505)       (6,808)     (20,435)      (30,259)
   Interest income, net     2,717         1,259        7,976         4,755
   Net loss before
    income taxes and
    preferred stock
    dividends             (2,788)       (5,549)     (12,459)      (25,504)
   Income taxes and
    preferred stock
    dividends               (600)            --        (600)       (2,055)
   Net loss attributable
    to common
    stockholders        $ (3,388)     $ (5,549)   $ (13,059)    $ (27,559)
   Basic and diluted
    net loss per
    common share          $(0.06)       $(0.10)      $(0.24)       $(0.54)
   Weighted-average
    shares used in
    computing basic
    and diluted
    net loss per
    common share           56,167        53,886       55,035        51,167

*The above Condensed Consolidated Proforma Statements of Operations are presented for illustrative purposes only and are not prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles.

                              AFFYMETRIX, INC.
                    CONDENSED CONSOLIDATED BALANCE SHEET
                               (In thousands)

                                                    Dec. 31,       Dec. 31,
                                                     2000           1999
   ASSETS
   Current assets:
    Cash and cash equivalents                        $7,263        $12,677
    Available-for-sale securities                   428,767        213,763
    Accounts receivable                              53,104         24,646
    Inventories                                      17,234         12,792
    Other current assets                              2,524          4,159
     Total current assets                           508,892        268,037
   Net property and equipment                        56,245         40,775
   Intangible assets                                 35,809          8,965
   Notes receivable from employees                    2,113          1,074
   Other assets                                      16,728          7,736
                                                   $619,787       $326,587
   LIABILITIES AND STOCKHOLDERS' EQUITY

   Current liabilities:
    Accounts payable and accrued liabilities        $50,592        $29,926
    Deferred revenue                                 19,544          6,468
    Current portion of capital lease obligation          22            261
     Total current liabilities                       70,158         36,655
   Noncurrent portion of capital lease obligation        60             --
   Obligation to Beckman Coulter, Inc.                5,000          5,000
   Convertible subordinated notes                   375,000        150,000
   Common stock purchase rights                       3,000          3,000
   Stockholders' equity:
    Common stock                                        571            543
    Notes receivable from shareholders                (994)             --
    Additional paid-in-capital                      340,548        256,467
    Accumulated deficit                           (157,761)      (124,203)
    Other                                          (15,795)          (875)
     Total stockholders' equity                     166,569        131,932
                                                   $619,787       $326,587

Zahlen dürften ganz gut sein, brauche aber etwas Zeit für einen Kommentar

haha
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HAHAHA:

nachbörse auf island.com: 65.2500 USD o.T.

 
05.02.01 22:48
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preisfuchs:

HAHAHA sei ehrlich wie tief ist die wunde am po?

 
06.02.01 16:53
bestimmt hast du die 9% mitgenommen und bereust dies nun, da der kurs 11% höher steht.
na ja so ist die börse, das erlebe ich jeden tag genauso wie du. wissen sollte man es. MEDX zieht heute auch sehr gut an. nun fehlt nur moch MLNM.
es lieb gegrüsst
preisfuchs
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HAHAHA:

re

 
07.02.01 00:17
war den ganzen Abend nicht am PC - und konnte daher nicht verkaufen.

+ was spricht für halten:
 Umsätze waren heute sehr hoch, AFFX hat den Weg runter mit der NAsdaq zur zweiten Tageshälfte nicht mitgemacht, Vertrauen sollte durch die zweiten hervorragenden Zahlen hintereinander jetzt gewachsen sein. Widerstand erst bei 72.....

- in Zeiten wie diesen ist Traden angesagt und mit Gewinnmitnahmen sollte man nicht allzulange warten - solange es noch Gewinne gibt.

Bin von diesen Chips 100%ig überzeugt, weil ich deren Potential abschätzen kann, wie sehr sie die Forschung beschleunigen und die angewadte Medizin (Klinik) veränderen werden.

mal sehen muss mir erst ein Bild von heute machen

haha
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zit1:

@HAHAHA

 
07.02.01 00:25
gratuliere!
dein mut wurde zu recht belohnt.
habe affx ebenfalls sehr gut beobachtet, hatte jedoch aufgrund der allgemeinen biotechkorrektur meine berechtigten bedenken zum wiedereinstieg.
ich wünsche dir schöne gewinne mit dem affx.
doch achtung, meiner meinung nach stehen in diesem sektor noch korrekturen bevor.

schönen abend noch,
zit
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07.02.01 00:32
danke für Gratulation und Warnung.

Von der Bewertung ist bei vielen (ganz besonders bei den "Wirkstoffsuchern") grosses Potential nach unten MÖGLICH - die Frage ist nur - kommt das in Form bei der alle Biotechs mehr oder weniger runtergerissen werden - oder eher in Form von Selektion (also langsamer).

Ich hoffe, dass Anleger und Fondsmanager lernen besser INNERHALB dieses Sektor zu differenzieren.

"Internet ist auch nicht gleich Internet", Software nicht gleich Software....

In diesem Sinne glaube und hoffe ich, dass man differenzieren wird - zwischen einer AFFX, die daran ist den Break even zu erreichen - und einer
Celera, von GPC oder November ganz zu schweigen.

haha

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