ein letzter thread für upda (updv)

jetzt hat gerade jemand 5.746.560  stück zu ,003 gekauft.
warum kauft der nicht in us, da wären sie billiger?
dort haben wir gerade einen kurs von unter ,0039 grad mal +30% und das bei einem euro dollar von 1,47

biz.yahoo.com/e/080819/cnfu.ob10-q.html

sagt wohl viel aus

If we are not able to obtain additional financing on a timely basis, we would cease our operations.  

www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/859365/...93/cful_10q63008.htm

TOTAL ASSETS_____: 24,073,639 USD
TOTAL LIABILITIES: 23,587,640 USD

Product revenue _: 36,567,168 USD
GROSS PROFIT_____:  2,014,483 USD

INCOME (LOSS) FROM OPERATIONS: 244,753 USD

aber dann die worte dahinter, die finde ich ausnahmsweise und speziell in diesem fall viel interessanter.
klingt doch irgendwie erpresserisch. wir brauchen kohle und somit her damit sonst ...

We have historically incurred recurring losses from operations. Our continuation is dependent upon a successful program of acquisitions and achieving a profitable level of operations. We will need $6 million of additional financing for ongoing operations and acquisitions. The issuance of additional equity securities by us would result in a significant dilutionin the equity interests of our current stockholders. Obtaining loans, assuming those loans would be available, would increase our liabilities and future cash commitments. We cannot assure that we will be able to obtain further funds we desire for our continuing operations or, if available, that funds can be obtained on commercially reasonable terms. If we are not able to obtain additional financing on a timely basis, we would cease our operations.

sprudelt erst einmal das ÖL/GAS (ob CNFU oder HTOG) - wie ab besagten/erwarteten Quartals-Filings, dann ist auch wieder Hoffnung für den PPS zu erwarten...

Ohne zu übertreiben (auch in den Erwartungen) - es ist wieder Leben im Gesamtgefüge zu erkennen.

   --ax--

zaunpfahl

die 6 mille für htog wären 1,5 milliarden neue aktien bei updv.

vor allem was mich stört ist, dass die auch das Wort " and acquisitions." im Bericht stehen haben.

Und wenn die Steigerungen schon so gewaltig sind, sollte auch ständig neues Geld reinkommen um das laufende Geschäft aufrecht zu erhalten.

Wie wärs mal mit Geld verdienen als nur von den Aktionären zu holen.

Rechnet mal aus, was die an Kohle ausgegeben haben, mit den Dilutieren von Aktien.
Was hattten wir für Kurse, wie die Monat für Monat die Millionen von Aktien ausgegeben haben.

Zu den damaligen Kursen hätten die die 6 Mille mit einigen Millionen Aktien eingenommen...

Es ist doch zum Kotzen, wenn man auch die Vergangenheit in seine Überlegungen einbezieht.

gibs auf

das ist und bleibt ne reine Abzockerbude

Beschäftige dich lieber mit "vernünftigen" Unternehmen und lass UPDA in Frieden ruhen

Für nen Zock OK aber sonst nur Müll!

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Posted by: why_meil    Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:39:03 AM  
In reply to: the third leg who wrote msg# 7327  Post # of 7336  

Stated another way, second quarter 2008 CNFU revenues increased 532% over the same quarter last year, and increased 149% from the previous quarter this year (quarter ending March 31, 2008). In my opinion, that's fantastic growth in revenues. Not to mention a $51.6M improvement in YTD net earnings from the same period last year.

Overall, not too shabby. Still not all roses to be fair (still in technical default with Sheridan, etc.), but the numbers could have been a lot worse. I'm happy with CNFU's filing. Now for UPDV's ...

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Posted by: why_meil    Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:48:35 AM  
In reply to: JimProfit who wrote msg# 7330  Post # of 7336  

I do. The numbers are vastly improved over same period 2007. In my opinion, if they keep executing like this it's just a matter of a few quarters to positive net earnings. As I stated in my previous post, CNFU closed a gap in 6 months net earnings by $51.6M. From negative $53.5M first 6 months 2007, to negative $1.9M first 6 months 2008. Those are blowout numbers!

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10q htog

www.pinksheets.com/edgar/GetFilingPdf?FilingID=6113636

UPDV’s interest(HTOG)has decreased to 16%


On April 19, 2007 there was a sale of a 52% interest in the Company’s common stock to Universal
Property Development and Acquisition Corporation ("UPDV"). After adjusting the previous
quarter’s issuance to UPDV for the July 25, 2007 1-for-10 reverse stock split and through
subsequent transactions, UPDV’s interest has decreased to 16% as of June 30, 2008

das heißt, HTOG hat sich größtenteils rausgekauft...

UPDV ist das Mutter-Unternehmen

und nicht htog

aber wie soll die mutter geld verdienen, wenn sie von den töchtern nichts bekommt.

wo ist der report

KEINE Panik

könnten hier einige aktien profitieren....

und die somit geringer beteiligung gut für updv ist?

verringert das das dilutieren?

ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=squote&symbol=HTOG
hat HTOG 42 Mio OS

Wieviel sie tatsächlich haben kann jeder nachlesen :-)

und das war der Stand zum 30.06.

Hier sind wie schnell über 1 Mrd shares (wenn wirs nicht schon sind)

www.otcbb.com/asp/...ist_detail.asp?d=08/20/2008&mkt_ctg=OTCBB

FILING noch immer nicht! ausgegeben

13:32  8/22/2008  UPDV  UPDVE  Universal Property Development and Acquisition Corporation Common Stock  Delinquent **

...gezockt wird hiermit!   --ax--

updv hat wieder ein neues kürzel, halt leider UPDVE — Universal Property Development & Acquisition Corp.

www.pinksheets.com/pink/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=updve

kann mir jemand den folgenden satz erklären?

I don't see any sanity in theMarket for months,recently.


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comments : Hello,

I am currently an investor with HTOG.

I have a few questions and a few comments if u have the time.

1) at what point will forward P/E be stated?

2) there is growing unrest with the current invstors based on the recently released 10Q (2nd Q) .. how will this be adressed to calm the waters so to say?

thank you.

as far as a comment.

Has the thought of releasing an announcement of share buy back come up? With NSS's on the prowl, tough economic times, and a current bear market, its believed that share buy backs are in large a very strong tool to reverse all those conditions.

Ive been investing in stocks for 13 years now and I fully understand dilution and the need for dilution to raise capital, however diluting an undervalued stock IMO doesnt make any sense.

If a share buy back is announced, it will strengthen the current investors and entice new investors which will raise PPS and shake out the NSS, also pushing HTOG into a bull situation.

then later as PPS increases HTOG can dilute nominally back in at a higher PPS which will cover for the original buy back, create excess liquidity and allow for increased growth which in turn will raise PPS value even higher.

after that a small dividend announcement will launch the PPS even higher (at a later date) then top off the cap of dilution without skipping a beat to cover leftover debt.

IMO this is a perfect play as HTOG is in growth phase and really need to grab the attention of its investors at this point.

Thanks for listening and hope to hear back.

this was the reply...

We have considered both and will reply later in the quarter.
I don't see any sanity in theMarket for months,recently.
Jack Baker
Corporate Communications Director
561.630.2977

über 24 000 000 wollen rein das sgt mir alles.
und ich bin schön fett drin hä hä.

sehr gut.
das wird hier die nächste rakete wetten ?

wollen wohl keine mehr abgeben dum di dum.