COOP News (ehemals: Wamu /WMIH)

hab schon geschrieben du sollst aufrunden auf 5 cent, das soll heissen oder 70cent oder 75 cent.
90 cent oder 95 cent , oder 1,00$.

Hi,
wer kann etwas zu dem von Large Green angesprochenen Zusammenhang WMIH und F&F sagen?

Saturday, 12/02/17 07:10:25 AM
„WMIH-Corp MAY end of being the LARGEST PLAYER with Fanny/Freddy.“
MfG Gerusia

und noch nicht eingestiegen.
Ich war dran und drauf bei 0,66C wieder gewillt einzusteigen, nun nach dem ich soviel mit erlebt und durchgemacht habe, bin nicht sicher , ob  die BIG BOYS, wieder die Finger dazwischen haben.
Ich warte noch  und falls....,.. , nun gut ist.
Die Escrows habe ich .  

secfilings.nasdaq.com/...20CORP&FormType=8-K&View=html

Heute wieder was interessantes aus I-Hub

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Do you wonder How get paid?

Az, Ron, Cura, and many more ,however Az has been hammering on this point and I think Cura Asand's post needs to be read by all whom wonder how. This couple paragraphs nails down the mechanism and shows the way in irrefutably form as to the vehicles that will return money to escrow holders! It clearly states what and who is the benefactor of what.

I may add as to why I believe some of The original Hedgies have reduced their holdings is do to the fact KKR will not have a greater influence on WMIH going forward. Davids Teppers crew and such got what the got originally when the y all got caught with their hands in the cookie jar so the became escrow holders on approval ,however since they do not need to triple dip because of possibly KKR's lesser influence. Whether we get news now or latter rest assured your escrow shares truly are gold.

Cura real nice job! As always Az and such thanks for shining light years ago to the path leading us HOME!


CURA ASANDA
I noticed the morning that your post was overlooked by many.
SEVENTH AMENDED JOINT PLAN OF AFFILIATED DEBTORS
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 11 OF THE UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY CODE

Section 2.19. Loan Servicing. From and after the Effective Date, JPMC
shall (a) cause such of its Affiliates to continue to service the loans identified on Exhibit “Z” hereto (the “Loans”) pursuant to the servicing agreements identified on Exhibit “AA” hereto (the “Servicing Agreements”), (b) cause such of its Affiliates to remit to
WMI all checks and/or payments received in connection with those loans in its possession and (c) promptly (i) remit to WMI all servicing advances that JPMC is holding with respect to such loans and (ii) provide WMI an accounting with respect to each of the foregoing. Notwithstanding the foregoing, any dispute that may arise relating
to the servicing of such loans during the period from and after the Effective Date shall be brought pursuant to such servicing agreements and this Agreement is not intended to create any additional rights, obligations or remedies. The Parties acknowledge and agree
that (y) the Loans are the only loans that are or will be, from and after the Effective Date,serviced by the JPMC Entities (or their Affiliates) for the WMI Entities (or their Affiliates or their successors in interest) and that the Service Agreements are the only
servicing agreements between the JPMC Entities (or their Affiliates) and the WMI Entities (or their Affiliates) and (z) with the exception of the obligations set forth in this Section 2.19, the JPMC Entities (and their Affiliates) shall have no further obligations or liability to any of the WMI Entities (or their Affiliates) with respect to or in any way
related to the servicing of any loans for the WMI Entities (or their Affiliates).



Great Job Cura Regards,
Barry


Gruß
Just

..der Gesetzesentwurf ist heute auch im Senat zugestimmt worden (51 zu 49). Beide Entwuerfe (Abgeordnetenhaus & Senat) muessen noch abgeglichen werden, bevor Trump unterzeichnen kann. Sein Wunsch/Ziel war noch vor Weihnachten es zu tun. Nach der Zustimmung im Senat sind die Chancen sehr gross, dass er das tun kann.

Senate Passes Sweeping Revision of U.S. Tax Code
https://www.wsj.com/articles/...tax-code-1512197717?mod=djemalertNEWS

PS: erfreuliche Kursentwicklung in den letzten paar Tagen.

Ist jetzt zwar fast irrelevant...da die 20% durch sind bzgl. Coop. Tax.

Aber - trotzdem der vollstänigheit halber...wenn der die Wahrheit sagt ... ist Trump Game over mit Mr. Päsident und America first...

www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/...micheal-flynn-a-1181407.html

"Flynn ging einen sogenannten Plea Deal mit Mueller ein. Darin bekannte er sich schuldig, das FBI über seine Kontakte - und die Kontakte des Trump-Teams - mit russischen Vertretern belogen zu haben. Diese Falschaussagen beging er demnach bei einem FBI-Verhör am 24. Januar 2017, also als vereidigtes Regierungsmitglied. Darauf steht eigentlich eine Höchststrafe von fünf Jahren Gefängnis und 250.000 Dollar Bußgeld. Doch den Dokumenten zufolge könnte die Strafe für Flynn durch den Deal deutlich geringer ausfallen: bis zu sechs Monate Haft und 500 bis 9500 Dollar Bußgeld."

Danke, ich werde den Montag abwarten, und dann nochmals einen Versuch starten ;-)

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David Bonderman is the ultimate WMI insider...IMO.

I will start with my conclusions first so you can keep asking yourself are they plausible or not.

IMO...My conclusions:

1) Excerpt from 1988 article: "The mortgage-backed securities, whose value drops as interest rates rise, would generate losses of about $1 billion if sold at today's prices, bank board officials estimate. However, if rates drop in the months and years ahead, the securities may eventually be liquidated at a profit. "

articles.latimes.com/1988-12-29/business/...american-savings/2

Special Purchase Entities (SPEs) such as MBS Trusts are the true bulk and lion's share of the recoveries for Escrow Marker Holders for WMI. Recoveries via WMIH will be very small compared with the MBS Trust recoveries!!

2) The ultimate insider is David Bonderman and TPG...Olympic Investment Partners...et. al.

3) Equity Tranches/Equity Interests or residual value from the MBS Trusts are enormous when you consider that some prospectuses state that the orginator/depositor of the Trusts have to retain 25%

4) From 2000-2008, WMI Subsidiaries securitized $692 billion mortgage loans which were Bankruptcy Remote

5) Most of those MBS Trusts since 2000, might be fully resolved meaning either they were liquidated/prepaid/Re-financed and all obligations to investors are fulfilled, and residual value of 25% of those MBS Trusts are waiting for WMI (rightful owner) to distribute to the Escrow Marker Holders (i.e. Bonderman/TPG/Olympic Partners, any shareholder that released by March 2012).



My Theory: Blueprint of a legal way to untold riches!

1) Bonderman, Bass, et. al. purchase American Savings (California Savings and Loans which was in bankruptcy in 1988). American Savings had $15 billion in MBS Trusts.

What did Bonderman learn from that deal?

He learned that as interest rates dropped, the profits from the MBS Trusts increased. This is because as interest rates dropped, the probability of borrowers to prepay/re-finance increased. Once mortgages were prepaid, the obligations to investors of those MBS Trusts were paid, and the residual (Equity Tranche) was realized by the owners of the Trusts (the originators/depositors) or the ones that creates the MBS Trusts.

articles.latimes.com/1988-12-29/business/...american-savings/2

2) Sell off American Savings to WMI in 1996. This allowed Bonderman to sit on the Board of Directors of WMI from 1996-2002.

While on the BOD of WMI, Bonderman had access to Material Non Public Information (MNPI). What was he looking for?

The size and value of all the MBS Trusts that have been created in the past and the possible creation of future MBS Trusts in the future.

Per the 2010 congressional subcommittee hearings, WMI increased the generation of MBS Trusts from 2000-2008. $692 billion worth of MBS Trusts were created. If WMI had to retain up to 25% by virtue of the Equity Tranches....simple math :

$692 x 25% = $173 billion (no interest included)

3) Bonderman, TPG/Olympic Partners et.al. infused $7.5 billion on April 07, 2008. This was weeks after the Bears Stearn collapse. Bonderman was elected to the BOD of WMI once again by virtue of the infused cash.

IMO....Bonderman TPG/Olympic Partners, et.al. controlled WMI from this point forward.

The interest rates were dropping, and if things got worse economically (and it did) then interest rates would probably drop to all time lows (and it did).

With the decrease of interest rates...the profits via MBS Trusts would increase!

4) WAMU banks were seized and WMI had to file Ch. 11 in September 2008.

5) Bonderman didn't resign from WMI until December 2008.

6) Bonderman, TPG/Olympic Partners, et.al. sole purpose was to keep control of their positions in WMI....because WMI was the rightful owners of the MBS Trusts which had up to 25% of the Equity Tranches of all the MBS Trusts.

By December 2008, the global economy was in recession, and the interest rates were at all time lows! This means that the profits from MBS Trusts were at all time highs.

7) By 2011, Walrath's court had ruled that assets via MBS Trusts were bankruptcy remote. Investors in MBS Trusts were guaranteed that they would be paid, without any problems from the bankruptcy court.

www.corporatetrustinsider.com/2014/11/...on-november-12-2014/

8) IMO...Bonderman, TPG/Olympic Partners, et.al. released their shares of WAMUQ and converted to Escrow Markers in March 2012.

9) JPM admitted, via their 2013 and 2014 annual reports, that there were $165 billion off balance sheet assets in MBS Trusts. As of 2014, $127 billion was liquidated and $38 billion was unliquidated,

This means that $127 billion was prepaid/re-financed/foreclosed and the residual Equity Tranche would also reap the benefits.

IMO...The rightful owner of the Equity Tranches of the MBS Trusts is WMI/WMILT and not WMIH.


$38 billion of unliquidated mortgages would be left for any entity that would buy and service these loans (IMO...WMIH would be a perfect entity)


10) Now at Thanksgiving 2017, all litigation (except WAMU ex-employee claims) have been resolved.

FDIC-R/C are in the final stages of closing the WAMU receivership.

More than 130 institutional holders have bought since emergence from CH. 11.

IMO...it doesn't matter if Bonderman, TPG/Olympic Partners, et.al. still have WMIH shares or not. They are more concerned about the recoveries from MBS Trusts, because WMIH recoveries pale in comparison to Escrow Marker recoveries via the residual Equity Tranches in the MBS Trusts.

Remember...as interest rates decrease...the profits in MBS Trusts increase!!!!!!

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Per the following link, it shows the historic mortgage interest rates from 1986 to 2016:

www.hsh.com/monthly-mortgage-rates.html

IMO...as mortgage interest rates decrease the higher the profits from MBS Trusts (bankruptcy remote).

An example of 30 year fixed mortgage interest rates:

As of Jan 2000 = 8.305% : WMI subsidiaries started securitizing $692 billion from 2000-2007.

As of Jan 2008 = 6.224% : WMI tried to sell itself off; JPM's offer of $8 per share was declined, and TPG's $7 billion infusion was accepted April 2008. Then Wamu banks were seized September 25, 2008.

As of Dec 2014 = 4.023%: Per JPM annual reports for 2013 & 2014, $165 billion in off balance securitized MBS Trusts. Of that total, $127 billion was liquidated and $38 billion was unliquidated.

As of Aug 2016 = 3.552%

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IMO...As interest rates decrease more borrowers will refinance and prepay their mortgages therefore increase in MBS trust profits.

As of 2014, $127 billion was liquidated out of $165 billion securitized loans.

Percentage liquidated = $127 billion / $165 billion = 76.96%

If by 2014, there were 76.96% liquidated at interest rates as low as 4.023% (Dec 2014), imagine how many more mortgages were refinanced when the interest rates are at 3.552% (Aug 2016).

When the mortgages are liquidated the MBS Trust investors are paid and so are the residual Equity Tranches/Interests (rightful beneficial owners are WMI Escrow Marker Holders). The prospectuses of some of the MBS Trusts require that WMI retain up to 25% (Equity Tranche).

"MBS"
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothekenbesichertes_Wertpapier
Ein hypothekenbesichertes Wertpapier (englisch mortgage-backed security, abgekürzt MBS) ist eine Anleihe, deren Bargeldflüsse durch die Zins- und Tilgungszahlungen eines Pools von grundpfandrechtlich gesicherten Forderungen getragen werden. Es ist damit ein Spezialfall eines forderungsbesicherten Wertpapiers .

Claytrader put spotlight on WMIH for coming week... time to get back up to where we belong... its obvious the Hedgies manipulated to get a ton a free shares but they want Nasdaq status... so $1.75 is the floor of the deal.

claytrader.com/stock_chart/WMIH/...its&utm_campaign=chart

Zeigt auf wie diese MBS funktionieren. Mir persönlich zeigt es aber vorallem, das nur involvierte Personen wissen können, was hier gespielt wird. Dazu zähle ich auch Bonderman der wie wir releas erteilt hat, und nicht nur das...

"This allowed Bonderman to sit on the Board of Directors of WMI from 1996-2002. While on the BOD of WMI, Bonderman had access to Material Non Public Information (MNPI).What was he looking for?"




For those that want full details of how to value MBS the following lecture by the Yale professor is very enlightening:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=qbEsK92KpQI

Starting at:

13:47-- Historical percentage of Prepayment between 1986-1999 peaked at about 60%. Per JPM 2013 & 2014 annual reports, the percentage of Prepayment/liquidation was more than 76%. IMO...the $165 billion in MBS is probably a lot more than 76% liquidated by now! Which means that liquidated funds are all in cash!


24:27--Model of Prepayment

51:00--What happens to mortgage value as interest rates decrease?

Mortgage value increases as interest rates decrease.

56:06-- Hedging

If you have 75 minutes to spare...it's a great video to watch.

IMO...this is an example of how financial instruments like MBS can make people rich beyond their wildest dreams if you knew that interest rates were going to be at all time lows (I think Bonderman et al. knew exactly where the interest rates were going...and they knew how much profit they can garner)!

AZCowboy    Sunday, 12/03/17 11:24:11 AM  
Re:  AaronTrainer    post# 498388  
Post #   of 498392    

~ AT, Yes, I AM’ 100% Sure Of A Positive Financial Outcome’ ~

A financial positive, For WMIH-Corp, the Reorganized WMI, ... as well as for the Original (41.6) Releasing Parties ...

... Everything’ ... is 100% Plan 7 defined’ ... and’ ... Everything financially relevant’ ... revolves around the Original Capital Trusts’ ... BOTH’ as they ALL’ relate to ... Tranche 3’ and Tranche 6’ ... respectively’ ...

AZ  

....Aaron Trainer aus I-Hub
I would like to know how certain, using a percentage for example, each one of you is that payment will arrive in December.
TIA to all that answer this query.
AT  

..ein paar Hinweise zum Bericht, da der Beitrag oben scheinbar Interesse findet. Der Spiegel beginnt gleich den ersten Satz im dramatischen Ton "Dramatische Wende in der Russlandaffäre" um dann spaeter die tatsaechliche Relevanz selbst zu erkennen:

"Warum ist das relevant?
Die Einmischung einer noch nicht amtierenden Regierung in die Geschäfte einer scheidenden Regierung ist zwar höchst ungewöhnlich, aber nicht zwingend illegal."

Der Spiegel bemueht sich weiter zwar ausnahmsweise um mehr Details, inkl. richtige Angaben zum Sachverhalt, welcher im Dez. 2016 (also nach Praesidentschaftswahl) stattfand, jedoch verbreitet wieder mal "fake news" fuer die notorischen Verschwoerer:

"Was könnte Trump drohen?
[...] Der US-Nachrichtensender ABC berichtete, dass Flynn gezielt gegen seinen Ex-Boss auspacken wolle."

..denn, der Reporter von ABC wurde genau auf Grund dieser falschen Berichterstattung gekuendigt:

ABC News suspends reporter after faulty Flynn report
http://thehill.com/media/...spends-reporter-after-faulty-flynn-report

Fehlt jetzt nur noch das du behauptest Donald Trump ist Mutter Theresa oder Manuel Neuer?

solltest dich selbst einlesen, oder selbst denken, vor allem was die Mainstreammedien berichten.
Mutter Theresa sollten auch mal nachfragen.

Populisten bleiben Populisten. Wir werden sehen ob Mainstream oder Wahrheit!

wurde erfunden um *Meinungen und * Denke* diffamieren zu können.
Davon lebt die Politik u.v.m.

Hi,
Frankfurt Fonds handelt WMIH
MfG Gerusia

Finde ich nur, wenn ich eine Fonds-WKN eingebe...WMIH ist aber eine Aktie!
Vielleicht ein vorübergehende Ariva-Anzeigefehler?

wenn man irgendeine Behauptung in den Raum stellt...

Hi,
Handelsplätze guckst du hier:
www.finanznachrichten.de/aktienkurse-boersen/wmih-corp.htm

FF ist  mir bisher auch nicht bekannt.
MfG Gerusia

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