Brennstollzellen ja oder nein ???????????

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ken1:

Brennstollzellen ja oder nein ???????????

 
28.07.01 17:46
Würde mich über eine Diskussion
hierzu  freuen.

Hier hab ich ein schönen Artickel gefunden

Fit for Practical Use: DaimlerChrysler Presents Two Fuel Cell Cars    
   
BERCEDES

Fuel cell for the Mercedes-Benz A-Class and Jeep®
Energy efficiency double that of the gasoline engine
Schrempp: Fuel cells use "zero gallons of gasoline"
New technology creates jobs
Personal transportation becomes environmentally friendly


Berlin / Stuttgart / Auburn Hills / November 7, 2000

On November 7, 2000, in Berlin, DaimlerChrysler documented the advances in the development of the fuel cell drive with not just one but two new vehicles in the presence of German Chancellor Gerhard Schröder. Both the Mercedes-Benz A-Class based fuel cell vehicle NECAR 5 (New Electric CAR) and the Jeep® (Commander 2) are virtually silent and environmentally friendly. Their fuel is methanol-a liquid that serves as a hydrogen storage medium. The company characterizes the present technical status of the fuel cell drive as "fit for practical use."

In the past six years, the fuel cell drive system has been shrunk to such an extent that it presently requires no more space than a conventional drive system. The fuel cell uses the energy in the fuel almost twice as efficiently as a gasoline engine. The hydrogen carrier methanol - a liquid that can be sold in a manner similar to gasoline through the existing filling station network - is the first fuel in the 115-year history of the automobile in Europe that isn't derived from a fossil source and can even be produced from renewable sources. Together with the oil industry, DaimlerChrysler is already developing scenarios for use of the alternative fuel.

 

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DarkKnight:

Habe alles gelesen. Kurzfassung:

 
28.07.01 18:01
Es wird eine Projektgruppe gegründet, die nix zu sagen hat, damit sich nix bewegt.

Antwort auf Deine obige Frage: NEIN!!!
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ken1:

Interesant,

 
28.07.01 18:21
ich bin von Brennstoffzellen überzeugt und
denke das es die Zukunft ist.Die gesamte
Autoindustrie forscht und endwickelt.In den
USA glaubt man auch daran in Laptop`s werden
sie schon eingesätzt.
Bitte um noch mehr Meinungen.

Ken1
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fragles:

klar setzt sich die Brennstoffzelle durch

 
28.07.01 18:25
und Daimler ist ganz vorne
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Falcon2001:

In Laptops????

 
28.07.01 18:25
Um die Festplatte anzutreiben oder was? Von 0 auf 10000 Umdrehungen/Min in 10 Sekunden dank Brennstoffzelle?
Oder mache ich einen Denkfehler ;-)
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ken1:

@ Falcom2001 jo du machst einen Fehler....

 
28.07.01 18:33
Die Batterien  grins  
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ken1:

Einen Wert im Auge

 
04.08.01 16:06
Ok ich habe mich noch intensiver mit dem
Thema befasst.Ich habe auch schon Position
bezogen und bin in Plug Power eingestiegen.
KK-Kurs 14,20 also das gleich vorweg ich stelle
die Aktie jetzt mal vor weil ich der Meinung
bin da ist viel Luft nach oben.
Bitte dieses nicht als Puschen zu werten da
es auch Unsinn ist,der Kurs wird letztendlich
in USA gemacht und nicht durch ein Posting
hier von mir.
Ich bin ja noch recht neu hier bei Ariva
und will euch nur mal eine Aktie vorstellen
die ( in meinen Augen) viel Luft hat.Ober
besser gesagt aus meinen Augen einen Tip
geben oder euch drauf stossen.
Jetzt der Chart.

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Die letzten New`s setzte ich jetzt einfach drunter.

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Latham, N.Y.-Based Fuel Cell Reduces Earnings Loss
Jul 27, 2001 (Times Union - Knight Ridder/Tribune Business News via COMTEX) -- Fuel cell maker Plug Power Inc. cut spending 22 percent during the second quarter as it lost $18.3 million, or $300,000 more than in the same period a year before.

The 41-cent-per-share loss was a penny better than the 42 cents the Latham-based company lost during the same period last year.

Roger Saillant, president and chief executive, said the cuts highlighted the company`s commitment to meeting goals it has set -- something that has been a stumbling block in the past.

"I`m very, very pleased to lead this company," Saillant said. "I feel now we have a team in place that can go the distance for profitability for us."

Plug officials expect to move into the black by 2006.

As the company reduces its cash spending, it also is trying to make its fuel cells less expensive. Widespread acceptance of Plug`s tiny power plants depends on how cheap they get. By year`s end, Saillant said, the company will have sliced a third off its production costs.

Still, at about $12,000 a kilowatt, the company figures it must shave another $11,500 off that before homeowners flock to stores to buy a fuel cell.

Fuel cells make electricity as part of a chemical reaction, with water vapor a byproduct.

Saillant said commercial users are likely to pay $1,000 to $5,000 a kilowatt for the units.

Plug`s initial units were rated at five kilowatts, enough to power a medium-size house. Plug expects to sell about 125 to 150 units this year. It sold its first 75 units for $7 million to the Long Island Power Authority earlier this summer; revenue from those sales will start showing up in the company`s balance sheets in its next quarterly report.

Plug recently raised $54 million by selling more stock, through both a secondary offering and to two of its largest investors, General Electric Co. and DTE Energy.

The money should help the company run into the second half of 2003, when it will have to raise more cash to stay alive.

Over the first half of 2001, Plug lost $37.3 million, about $2 million more than it lost during the same stretch of 2000.

Shares of Plug (Nasdaq: PLUG) closed at $11.80 Thursday, down 22 cents. Since the beginning of the year, its stock has fallen 20 percent.



By Kenneth Aaron

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Plug Power Inc. Announces Exercise of Over-Allotment Option
LATHAM, N.Y., Jul 27, 2001 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- Plug Power Inc. (Nasdaq: PLUG), today announced that the underwriters of its recently completed public offering of 4,000,000 common shares, have exercised their entire over-allotment option to purchase 600,000 additional common shares at $12.00 per share. The estimated net proceeds to Plug Power from the exercise of the over-allotment option are $6.8 million. The underwriting syndicate consists of JPMorgan, Merrill Lynch & Co., Salomon Smith Barney, FAC/Equities and McDonald Investments Inc.

Plug Power designs and develops on-site electric power generation systems utilizing proton exchange membrane fuel cells for stationary applications. The Latham, N.Y.-based company was founded in 1997, as a joint venture of DTE Energy Company and Mechanical Technology Incorporated. Plug Power Holland was founded in February 2000 as the first European operation base of Plug Power.

This press release may contain statements, which are not historical facts and are considered forward-looking within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements contain projections of Plug Power`s future results of operations, Plug Power`s product development expectations or of Plug Power`s financial position or state other forward-looking information. In some cases you can identify these statements by forward-looking words such as "anticipate," "believe," "could," "estimate," "expect," "intend," "may," "should," "will" and "would" or similar words. You should not rely on forward-looking statements because Plug Power`s actual results may differ materially from those indicated by these forward-looking statements as a result of a number of important factors. These factors include, but are not limited to, Plug Power`s ability to develop a commercially viable fuel cell system; the cost and timing of developing Plug Power`s fuel cell systems; market acceptance of Plug Power`s fuel cell systems; Plug Power`s reliance on Plug Power`s relationship with General Electric; Plug Power`s ability to successfully enter into amended distribution arrangements with General Electric and DTE Energy Technology reflecting the terms of the MOU; ability to manufacture fuel cell systems on a commercial basis; competitive factors, such as price competition, competition from other power technologies and competition from other fuel cell companies; the cost and availability of components and parts for Plug Power`s fuel cell systems; the ability to raise and provide the necessary capital to develop, manufacture and market Plug Power`s fuel cell systems; Plug Power`s ability to lower the cost of its fuel cell systems and demonstrate their reliability; the cost of complying with current and future governmental regulations; and other risks and uncertainties discussed under the heading "Risk Factors" in Plug Power`s final prospectus, dated July 19, 2001 for its recent public offering filed with the Securities Exchange Commission on July 29, 2001, Plug Power`s current report on Form 8-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on June 14, 2001 and the reports Plug Power files from time to time with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Plug Power does not intend to and undertakes no duty to update the information contained in this press release.


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Der letzte Quartalsbericht.


Plug Power Inc. Reports Second Quarter Results
LATHAM, N.Y., Jul 26, 2001 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- Plug Power Inc. (Nasdaq: PLUG), today reported that product development and financial results for the second quarter ended June 30, 2001 exceeded the company`s anticipated results, as reflected in reduced cost of direct material, decreased net cash spending and reduced loss per share.

Contract revenue for the second quarter was $1.3 million as compared to $2.4 million for the second quarter of 2000. Year-to-date contract revenue was $2.3 million as compared to $5.4 million in 2000. The second quarter and year-to-date reduction in contract revenues reflect less emphasis on government research and development contracts as the company devotes most of its resources to product development and commercial sales. Product sales will begin to favorably affect revenues in the third quarter of 2001.

Research and development costs, when combined with cost of contract revenue, were $17.4 million during the quarter compared to $20.4 million in the same quarter of 2000. Year-to-date, combined research and development costs and costs of contract revenue were $36.2 million compared to $35.8 million in 2000.

Net cash spending for the second quarter ended June 30, 2001, decreased to $14.8 million from $16.9 million during the first quarter of 2001 and from $18.9 million during the second quarter last year. Net loss for the second quarter ended June 30, 2001, was $18.3 million, or $0.41 cents per share compared to $18.0 million, or $0.42 cents loss per share for the same period last year. The second quarter net loss of $0.41 cents per share and net cash spending of $14.8 million compares favorably to the forecast the company provided in April of this year of $0.42 cents per share and $16.3 million respectively. Net loss year-to-date was $37.3 million, or $0.85 cents per share, compared to $35.3 million or $0.82 cents loss per share, during the same period last year. See the attached financial highlights for the second quarter 2001.

Weighted average shares outstanding for the quarter ended June 30, 2001, increased to 44.2 million shares from 43.1 million in 2000. Outstanding number of shares after the company`s recently completed public offering and concurrent private placement of common stock is 49.4 million.

Plug Power`s financial position remains strong with $55.1 million of unrestricted cash and investments at June 30, 2001. Including the net proceeds of the recently completed public offering and private placement and excluding the underwriter`s over-allotment option, the company will have $109.1 million in unrestricted cash.

"I am pleased at the progress we made during the second quarter," said Roger Saillant, president and chief executive officer. "We have met or exceeded some very important commercial and product development milestones and we are progressing with the implementation of our business plan."

2nd Quarter Highlights

Product development and operational accomplishments during the quarter included the following:





-- Signed a $7 million agreement with Long Island Power Authority for the
purchase of 75 of the company`s first commercial fuel cell systems.
This was the first large-scale sale of fuel cells to an electric
utility in New York State.

-- Entered into non-binding memoranda of understanding (MOU) with GE Fuel
Cell Systems and DTE Energy Technology, which define new, expanded,
distribution agreements for the company`s proton exchange membrane
(PEM) fuel cell systems for stationary power applications.

-- Manufactured 33 fuel cell systems in the second quarter and 52
year-to-date. Over 25,000 hours of system run time were recorded for
the second quarter, over 43,000 year-to-date and over 211,000
company-to-date.

-- Reduced the cost of direct materials per unit by 27 percent from
January 1, 2001, well along the way to achieving the targeted 33
percent reduction by year-end.

-- Decreased net cash spending to $14.8 million compared to $18.9 million
from second quarter last year.

-- Received approval to produce units bearing the CSA International
certification seal for the United States. CSA provides services in the
field of standards development and product certification.

-- Demonstrated a running fuel cell system at the Renewable Energy Expo
in Washington, D.C. which was attended by President George W. Bush.


In addition to these second quarter accomplishments, the company completed a public offering of 3,975,000 shares of common stock at $12.00 per share, raising approximately $44.4 million. If the underwriters exercise their over-allotment option, in full, Plug Power estimates that its net proceeds will be approximately $51.3 million. In addition, another 416,666 shares were sold to both GE Power Systems Equities and DTE Energy, netting an additional $9.6 million. "We were extremely pleased to complete this offering despite adverse capital market conditions," said W. Mark Schmitz, vice president and chief financial officer. "We believe this was an important vote of confidence in Plug Power by the investment community and provides enough funds to execute our business plan well into the second half of 2003."

Plug Power has scheduled a conference call today, July 26, at 10:00 a.m. (EDT) to review its second quarter 2001 results. Interested parties are invited to participate. To listen to the conference call, please call (719) 457-2650. The live web cast can also be accessed by logging onto www.plugpower.com. A playback of the call will be available on the web site for a period following the call. Please send any questions related to the financial results to investorrelations@plugpower.com or call Steven Zenker, director of investor relations at 518-782-7700, extension 1248.

Plug Power designs and develops on-site electric power generation systems utilizing proton exchange membrane fuel cells for stationary applications. The Latham, N.Y.-based company was founded in 1997, as a joint venture of DTE Energy Company and Mechanical Technology Incorporated. Plug Power Holland was founded in February 2000 as the first European operation base of Plug Power.

This press release may contain statements, which are not historical facts and are considered forward-looking within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements contain projections of Plug Power`s future results of operations, Plug Power`s product development expectations or of Plug Power`s financial position or state other forward-looking information. In some cases you can identify these statements by forward-looking words such as "anticipate," "believe," "could," "estimate," "expect," "intend," "may," "should," "will" and "would" or similar words. You should not rely on forward-looking statements because Plug Power`s actual results may differ materially from those indicated by these forward-looking statements as a result of a number of important factors. These factors include, but are not limited to, Plug Power`s ability to develop a commercially viable fuel cell system; the cost and timing of developing Plug Power`s fuel cell systems; market acceptance of Plug Power`s fuel cell systems; Plug Power`s reliance on Plug Power`s relationship with General Electric; Plug Power`s ability to successfully enter into amended distribution arrangements with General Electric and DTE Energy Technology reflecting the terms of the MOU; ability to manufacture fuel cell systems on a commercial basis; competitive factors, such as price competition, competition from other power technologies and competition from other fuel cell companies; the cost and availability of components and parts for Plug Power`s fuel cell systems; the ability to raise and provide the necessary capital to develop, manufacture and market Plug Power`s fuel cell systems; Plug Power`s ability to lower the cost of its fuel cell systems and demonstrate their reliability; the cost of complying with current and future governmental regulations; and other risks and uncertainties discussed under the heading "Risk Factors" in Plug Power`s final prospectus, dated July 19, 2001 for its recent public offering filed with the Securities Exchange Commission on July 29, 2001, Plug Power`s current report on Form 8-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on June 14, 2001 and the reports Plug Power files from time to time with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Plug Power does not intend to and undertakes no duty to update the information contained in this press release.






Plug Power Inc.
Condensed Consolidated Balance Sheets

(Unaudited)
December 31, June 30,
Assets 2000 2001
Current assets:
Cash and cash equivalents $58,511,563 $35,118,449
Restricted cash 290,000 290,000
Marketable securities 28,221,852 19,967,447
Accounts receivable 1,415,049 1,625,873
Inventory 2,168,006 3,690,358
Prepaid development costs 2,041,668 3,672,475
Other current assets 694,178 419,417
Total current assets 93,342,316 64,784,019

Restricted cash 5,310,274 5,310,274
Property, plant and
equipment, net 32,290,492 32,335,080
Intangible assets 6,827,066 5,148,602
Investment in affiliates 9,778,784 8,139,135
Prepaid development costs 2,513,093 --
Other assets 767,193 683,624
Total assets $150,829,218 $116,400,734

Liabilities and Stockholders` Equity
Current liabilities:
Accounts payable $3,479,031 $2,978,004
Accrued expenses and
other current liabilities 6,511,730 4,169,639
Total current
liabilities 9,990,761 7,147,643

Long-term debt and
other liabilities 6,707,813 6,587,933
Total liabilities 16,698,574 13,735,576

Stockholders` equity 134,130,644 102,665,158
Total liabilities
and stockholders`
equity $150,829,218 $116,400,734


Plug Power Inc.
Condensed Consolidated Statements of Operations


Three Months Six Months
Ended June 30, Ended June 30,
2000 2001 2000 2001
Contract revenue $2,417,764 $1,289,077 $5,350,557 $2,316,326
Cost of contract
revenue 3,491,553 2,198,345 7,390,300 4,169,143
Loss on contracts (1,073,789) (909,268) (2,039,743) (1,852,817)

In-process research
and development -- -- 4,984,000 --
Research and
development expense
Noncash stock-based
compensation -- 375,000 -- 375,000
Other research
and development 16,932,662 14,870,054 28,376,834 31,620,347
General and
administrative
expense
Noncash stock-based
compensation 31,700 311,000 63,400 311,000
Other general
and
administrative 1,664,870 1,627,616 3,189,600 3,517,153
Interest expense 59,145 76,278 154,615 154,203
Operating loss (19,762,166) (18,169,216)(38,808,192) (37,830,520)

Other income 2,184,312 843,171 4,492,478 2,135,965
Loss before
equity in
losses of
affiliate (17,577,854) (17,326,045)(34,315,714) (35,694,555)

Equity in
losses
of affiliate (455,304) (993,636) (963,304) (1,639,649)
Net loss $(18,033,158) $(18,319,681)$(35,279,018) $(37,334,204)

Loss per share
- basic
and diluted $(0.42) $(0.41) $(0.82) $(0.85)

Weighted average
number of
shares
outstanding 43,151,810 44,239,208 43,053,998 44,080,352



Auch Politisch tut sich was nicht uninteressant !


Donnerstag 2. August 2001, 07:50 Uhr

US-Repräsentantenhaus für Energie-Gesetzesvorlage

Washington (Reuters) - Das US-Repräsentantenhaus hat einen weitreichenden Entwurf für ein Energie-Gesetzespaket gebilligt, mit dem auch die umstrittene Öl- und Gasförderung in einem Naturschutzgebiet in Alaska genehmigt würde.

Außerdem stimmten die Abgeordneten am Donnerstag in Washington für Steuererleichterungen im Volumen von mehr als 33 Milliarden Dollar (mehr als 63 Milliarden Mark) für die Energie-Industrie sowie die finanzielle Förderung umweltfreundlicherer Energie- Technologie. Nach dem Willen der US-Regierung unter George W. Bush soll durch die Öl- und Gasförderung im ressourcenreichen Bundesstaat Alaska die Abhängigkeit der USA von Ölimporten aus dem Ausland verringert werden.

Die Zustimmung des Repräsentantenhauses ist allerdings erst der erste Schritt zu dem Energie-Gesetz: Die Gesetzesvorlage muss noch vom Senat als zweiter Kammer des US-Kongresses gebilligt werden. Ob die Vorschläge hier durchkommen, ist fraglich, da im US-Senat anders als im Repräsentantenhaus die oppositionellen Demokraten die Mehrheit haben. Der Senat will im September über eine eigene Energie-Gesetzesvorlage beraten. Darin soll unter anderem das Bohrverbot für das Naturschutzgebiet in Alaska aufrechterhalten werden.Der tägliche Erdölbedarf der USA beläuft sich auf knapp 20 Millionen Barrel, mehr als die Hälfte dieser Menge muss aus dem Ausland importiert werden. Nach Schätzungen der US-Regierung könnten in dem Naturschutzgebiet in Alaska rund 16 Milliarden Barrel (Barrel=159 Liter) Erdöl gefördert werden. Damit könnten die USA Regierungsangaben zufolge rund 70 Jahre lang auf Ölimporte aus dem Irak verzichten. Aus Protest gegen die amerikanisch-britische Sanktionspolitik gegen das Land hatte der Irak Anfang Juni seine Erdölausfuhr gestoppt.




Donnerstag 2. August 2001, 18:48 Uhr

US-Parlament für Ölbohrung in Alaska

Das US-Repräsentantenhaus hat das Bohren nach Erdöl und Erdgas in einem arktischen Naturschutzgebiet in Alaska genehmigt. Die Abstimmung bedeutet einen wichtigen Erfolg für die Energiepolitik von US-Präsident George W. Bush. Die Abgeordneten stimmten außerdem Steuererleichterungen für die Energieindustrie und die Förderung umweltfreundlicher Energie-Technologien zu. Das Fördervolumen beträgt insgesamt 33 Mrd. Dollar (64 Mrd. DM).

Die Forderung, besonders Sprit schluckende Sportwagen, Minivans und Kleinlastwagen sparsamer zu machen, lehnte das US-Parlament ab.

Die Gesetzesvorlage muss allerdings noch den Senat passieren. Ob die zweite Parlamentskammer der Vorlage zustimmen wird, ist nicht sicher, da hier die Demokraten die Mehrheit haben. Der Senat will im September eine eigene Vorlage zur Energiepolitik beraten. Darin soll unter anderem das Bohrverbot für das Naturschutzgebiet in Alaska aufrechterhalten werden.

Hintergrund der Entscheidungen ist der erklärte Wille der Regierung, von Ölimporten unabhängiger zu werden. Der tägliche Erdölbedarf der Vereinigten Staaten beträgt knapp 20 Mio. Barrel (ein Barrel sind 159 Liter), mehr als die Hälfte muss aus dem Ausland importiert werden. Nach Schätzungen der US-Regierung könnten in dem Naturschutzgebiet Arctic National Wildlife Refuge rund 16 Mrd. Barrel Erdöl gefördert werden.

Das Naturschutzgebiet liegt in einer Küstenebene und ist Lebensraum für Wandervögel, Karibus und andere Tiere.
(reuters)


Bush unter Druck
Allianz gegen Klima-Politik


Im amerikanischen Senat gibt es Anzeichen für eine parteiübergreifende Allianz gegen die Klima-Politik von Präsident George W. Bush. Der demokratische Senator Joseph Liebermann und der Republikaner John McCain kritisierten den Kurs des Präsidenten und setzten sich für Zwangsmaßnahmen zur Begrenzung des CO2-Ausstoßes ein.

Die von Bush favorisierte Freiwilligkeit werde nicht funktionieren, erklärten sie in Washington. Beide kündigten an, einen entsprechenden Gesetzentwurf einzubringen. Liebermann und McCain gehören zu den einflussreichsten Politikern im US-Senat. Das Weiße Haus reagierte nicht direkt auf den Vorstoß der Senatoren.

Sprecher Scott McClellan, betonte, die Bush-Regierung strebe einen globalen Lösungsantsatz an, der die Entwicklungsländer nicht von Verpflichtungen ausnehme und der amerikanischen Wirtschaft nicht schade. Der Vorsitzende der Umweltschutzorganisation Environmental Defense, Fred Krupp, bezeichnete Allianz Lieberman-McCain als erstaunliche Entwicklung, die zeige, dass es im Kongress eine stärker werdende Bewegung gebe, den verfehlten Klimapolitikansatz von Bush hinter sich zu lassen.

Bush hatte im Mai den Ausstieg der USA aus dem Klimaschutz-Protokoll von Kyoto erklärt.


Fakt ist das Plug Power in den Letzten beiden Tagen
unter hohen Umsätzten stieg.


Jetzt bitte ich um Meinungen und würde mich
über Diskussionen freuen.


Ken1


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ken1:

Ups wie geht den das hier mit den Chart`s Hielfe o.T.

 
04.08.01 16:08
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Geheimer Deal: – und ein unbekannter Player greift plötzlich an
ken1:

Der Hammer

 
04.08.01 18:00
Nicht eine Antwort!!!!!!!!
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Boxenbauer:

Das Problem ist die Speicherung..

 
04.08.01 18:45
.. von Wasserstoff. Erst wenn vernünfitige Speicher gefunden sind, kann sich die Technologie durchsetzen. Es gibt bisher verschiedene Möglichkeiten. Große Gastanks haben den Nachteil der Größe im Verhältnis zur gespeicherten Energie. Flüssiggastanks müssen unter großem Energieaufwand gekühlt werden und Metallhybridspeicher sind schwer und teuer.
Baut man also Brennstoffzellen auf Wasserstoffbasis in Fahrzeuge, so haben diese nur ne begrenzte Reichweite oder sind unwahrscheinlich groß und verbaut. Da Wassrstoffatome super klein sind, verflüchtigen sie sich sehr schnell z.B. durch die Tankwände und es geht viel Energie verloren.
Das gleiche Problem taucht auch beim Transport durch Pipelines auf.
Brennstoffzellen auf Erdgasbasis lösen das Resourcen-Problem nicht und werden wahrscheinlich kaum gefördert.
Ein sinnvoller Einsatzort für Brennstzoffzellen auf Wasserstoffbasis ist nahe der Küste, wo Offshore-Parks direkt über Elekrolyse Wasserstofferzeugen. Dieser muß dann nur über kurze Wege geleitet werden.

Es sollen aber schon neue Kunststoffe für Leitungen und Speicherwände getestet werden.

Gruß Boxenbauer  
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ken1:

Boxenbauer retet Ehre von Ariva

 
04.08.01 21:06
Wenigstens einer mit einer Meinung DANKE.
Boxenbauer ich gebe dir Recht was die
Brennstoffzelle in Auto`s angeht,da wird
es noch 3 Jahre dauern. Aber grade aus dem Grund
ging ich in Plug Power deren Absatzgebiet eher
Häuser sind.
Anbei dieser Artikel.

Null-Emission in Kalifornien
In drei Jahren soll die Serienfertigung von Brennstoffzellen-Autos anlaufen. Diese Zusage hat Kalifornien, Motor der Luftreinhaltung in den USA, den Herstellern abgerungen. 19 Partner aus Industrie und Behörden testen jetzt rund um Sacramento ihre Vehikel auf Alltagstauglichkeit. Désirée Karge, US-Korrespondentin von bild der wissenschaft, fuhr mit (Quelle: Bild der Wissenschaft)

Ken1
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Kicky:

@ken 1 in der Kürze liegt die Würze!

 
05.08.01 02:15
entschuldige,aber Du kannst doch wenigstens die unwesentlichen Teile entfernen und die wichtigen hervorheben,das liest doch sonst nur ein Brennstoffzellenfanatiker.Ausserdem gabs dazu schon mehrere fundierte Threads,auf die man hinweisen könnte.Selbst über Plug Power ,Fuel Cell.Ballard,HPower u.a.und den Flop Capstone Turbine wurde schon mehrfach berichtet.Aber nur ellenlange Kopien...
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Stox Dude:

@kicky: Wenn Dein Betreff. stimmt, dann hat

 
05.08.01 07:43
preisfuchs recht, seine Frau sagte die gleiche Theorie aus.


;-0)
stox
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manfred1:

Wasserstoff

 
05.08.01 08:49
Die Technologie der Brennstoffzelle mag ja nicht schlecht sein. Das Problem ist die Wasserstoffgewinnung. Dazu braucht man Strom. Sehr viel Strom . So viel, daß man unmöglich das Erdöl dadurch ersetzen kann. Abgesehen davon ist es nicht Umweltfreundlich und schon gar nicht Energieeffizient. Was hilft ein sauberer Motor, wenn die Energiegewinnung umweltzerstörend ist ? Jedoch hat alternative Energie  verschiedenster Art   sicher Zukunft. Empfhele hier allerdings in einen breitgestreuten Umweltfonds zu investieren, der auch in andere Bereiche wie zum Beispiel Wasseraufbereitung investiert. Wasser in in so manchen Landen bereits jetzt erheblich teurer als Benzin. Darüber sollte man nachdenken.  
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