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Hallo Wamufreunde!

4
21.02.11 20:00
Ganz ehrlich, was ist los mit euch??
Wartet ab und lasst euch nicht provozieren.

"Saepe facit metui non metuenda metus."

LG
Exziton

@ Pfandi: "Sermo animi imago est: ut vir, sic oratio."
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The_Hope:

OT

4
21.02.11 20:59
Romani, ite domum

:-)
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St-Jean-Cap-F.:

Ich denke, man muss bei WaMu einfach dabei...

7
21.02.11 21:22
Ich denke gerne das Undenkbare
Meine Meinung. Keine Handelsempfehlung

Suchmaschinen ohne google-Kontrolle
excite.de, dmoz.org, ixquick.com, yahoo.de,askjeeves.de,ecosia.org,lycos.de,fireball.de!
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Oki-Wan 2.0:

@all

6
21.02.11 21:34
Hier zählt vor allem die Ausdauer!

“Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential”
Winston Churchill

Wir wissen, was zu tun ist!

Beste Grüße,
Oki-Wan 2.0
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paketix:

@SJCF

12
21.02.11 21:39
es gab mal zeiten da war ich mehr greenhorn als heute
damals habe ich solche meldungen *geglaubt* und bin ausgestiegen...
nur um zu sehen dass danach dann der *big bang* kam und ich aussen vor blieb (mit verlust)
heutzutage mache ich mein DD und bleibe bis zum schluss
macht einfach mehr spass ;D
...ach ja, auf solche meldungen gebe ich nicht mal einen feuchten furz...
so looong
/paketix
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aSt23:

Oder

 
21.02.11 21:41
Metaphysisch:
No beginning, no end
The allmeaning circle
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buzzard01:

oh je

2
21.02.11 21:44
versucht ihr gerade den zustand der singularität zu erörtern?!


;-))


gruss
B.
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lander:

aus dem I HUb

7
21.02.11 21:47
investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=60154279

Zitat:

Thanks Uz... I'll repost that info here. . .
Quote:
Luv brought that up a while ago. I was curious about that once that lovely, sexy, lil devil brought it up. The furry legged Catz had a good explanation on the GB on that issue.
My post on GB about the CEDE issue, etc... as background...

I'll give you the short answer. "Back in Myadad's youth", stocks were frequently issued in paper certificates. Wall street was full of runners who literally ran those certificates back and forth as buys and sells occurred. T+3 was done by making sure that the runner picked up the certificate from the seller, and delivered it to the buyer's broker, etc.

Now, enter the modern days, with electronic computers and trades done back and forth quickly and rapidly. T+3 becomes exponentially more difficult.

Enter DTCC. To avoid this "hassle" of paper certificates, stocks became electronically "registered" with DTCC. When you buy a stock, many times, you're really getting a "book entry" at DTCC that says "you own those xx shares". And correspondingly when you sell, your "book entry" is reduced and someone else's book entry goes up.

And frequently it's more complex than that. DTCC might show it as eTrade owns that stock, and when you sell, DTCC updates to say Scotttrade owns that stock. In turn, eTrade and Scotttrade does the "book entry" to keep track as well.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depository_Trust_%26_Clearing_Corporation

"In 2007, DTCC settled the vast majority of securities transactions in the United States, more than $1.86 quadrillion in value. DTCC has operating facilities in New York City, and at multiple locations in and outside the U.S.

Stocks held by DTC are kept in the name of its partnership nominee, Cede & Co"

Think of CEDE&CO not being an "entity" in the sense of ownership. I still own my shares, I still get to vote them, get dividends from them, etc, etc. CEDE&CO is a slight-of-hand that makes trading occur.

Where it will matter, is when things like dividends, proxy statements, etc have to get issued -- they would go to CEDE&CO, then to the brokers, then from the brokers to me -- each one is going to have a "tree" structure that points towards the beneficial owner, ME.

Depending on the amount of tinfoil vs. WD-40, you can view this as a lubricant to the market, or a conspiracy of epic proportions.

Zitatende

MfG.L:)
"Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens"
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Marlboromann:

Für Pfandbriefgeplackte die über ihn lachen wollen

2
21.02.11 21:57
über Mr. Ich weiß alles, immer richtig und mache nie Fehler.

www.wallstreet-online.de/diskussion/...r-asche#neuster_beitrag

Der PF nervt euch ja schon lange mit seiner Besserwisserrei.
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Pjöngjang:

Insider-trading scandal costs 3 hedge funds

26
21.02.11 22:09
Insider-trading scandal costs 3 hedge funds a combined $9 billion
www.pionline.com/article/20110221/PRINTSUB/302219942
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Feldberg58:

aus ihub

12
21.02.11 22:12
von Aladin61


H.F. Ahmanson & Company

Prior to 1998 the principal Subsidiaries were Home Savings of America; Savings of America; Ahmanson Mortgage Company; Ahmanson Marketing, Inc.; Griffin Financial Services.

In 1998, Seattle-based thrift Washington Mutual (WaMu) purchased HF Ahmanson and its Home Savings unit for $10 billion. As a result of this takeover and those of American Savings and Great Western Financial, Washington Mutual became California’s second largest bank. At the time, HF Ahmanson had $55 billion in assets. [8]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._F._Ahmanson_%26_Co

Wonder where the 55 billion in assets went????

www.ahmanson.org/index.html
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Feldberg58:

Laut Herrn Dimon

8
21.02.11 22:18
kann die Beschäftigung schneller wachsen, als die Menschen denken und 2011 blüht Amerika wieder.

According to Dimon... "employment may grow faster than people think"... LMAO... in WHAT sectors? "Landscaping"?... now that spring is just around the corner... LMAO!!


02/20/2011 08:35:16 PM EST -- USAToday.com

JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon sees good times in 2011

Published Date: February 20, 2011 08:32:00 PM EST
Author: Maria Bartiromo, Special for USA TODAY
Jamie Dimon says the story of 2011 will be America blossoming again. Two years after the financial meltdown, the chairman and CEO of one the top U.S. banks, JPMorgan Chase, (JPM) says businesses have plenty of capital and are starting to expand again. Dimon should know, sitting atop more than $2 trillion in assets and overseeing 230,000 employees. Analyzing his more than 5,000 branches, and 90 million credit cards, Dimon says there are still some weak spots for the economy, such as foreclosures in the pipeline and new regulation which he says will make banking more expensive for customers. Dimon explains some of the higher fees coming your way in my interview, which has been edited for clarity and length.

Q: How do you characterize the economy right now?

A: The economy is getting stronger every day, and I would say it's rather broad-based, and hopefully this will continue. That's true globally. It's good for America when the rest of the world grows, because you can sell more to the rest of the world. Large corporations are in very good shape, have plenty of capital and are starting to expand. But we also see the same thing from middle market-sized companies and small businesses. Our small-business lending is up 37% this year. Other banks are also seeing more loan demand in middle markets and small business.

Q: What about foreclosures in the pipeline? How do you see that playing out, and why hasn't the housing market participated in this recovery?

A: The mortgage pain is just a terrible story. Too many mortgages were badly done. I'm not talking about us. But foreclosures haven't quite peaked yet. We're probably halfway or two-thirds through the problem. And so home prices are still going down a little bit, but have for the most part stabilized. I don't know what they're going to do in the next six months and nine months; we kind of plan for them to go down a little bit. The real story in housing will be a recovery in the economy that will drive a recovery in housing, When people are working, when there are more jobs, more households forming and people go back to buying cars, they're going to want their apartments and homes. And that's when you'll start to see a recovery in home prices.

Q: What about the credit quality of consumers?

A: Credit quality in credit cards got a lot better. Unfortunately mortgages, which have gotten better, are still terrible. But in reality, the consumer is spending. Consumer spending is up about 5% from where it was last year, and the consumer is saving about 5%. If you go back several years ago, their spending was about the same, but they were not saving. So that seems to me to be a stronger consumer.

Q: So a change we've seen since the financial upset two years ago is that people are hoarding more cash?

A: I would be careful about the word "hoarding." Companies and individuals have more cash than they normally have, and maybe that was a little bit out of fear and maybe a little bit because they don't know what to do with it. At corporations, we are starting to see them do stock buybacks, mergers and acquisitions, and pay dividends. And individually you are starting to see people spend more. So people have started to use the excess cash.

Q: Can you talk about the impact of some of the regulatory changes we've seen? The Dodd-Frank financial reform act and the Durbin Interchange Amendment. What changes will consumers feel?

A: The Durbin Amendment basically does not allow us to charge for the cost of a debit card. There is a cost of doing business; you've got to cover your costs. Our costs are ATMs, branches, bankers, systems, statements, online, all that kind of stuff. One of the ways you got paid was by charging on debit, and now that's gone. So banks will have to figure out other ways to charge for their product. Fair prices, not gouging, just fair prices to recover their costs, like any other business. And so the consumer will end up paying more. I don't think the consumer's going to benefit at all from this change.

Q: So what will they pay more for?

A: You're going to see minimum balances go up. Remember many years ago, you had monthly fees. You might see monthly fees come back. You're going to see reward programs be cut, like debit reward programs. You may even see some limit the use of debit cards. And we want to do it in a way that's consumer-friendly. But it will be done for general banking. We have decided to look at all options. We want to make sure we treat our customers well, but somehow we're going to have to find other ways to recover our costs.

Q: Do you think we'll see changes to Dodd-Frank?

A: It's the law of the land. There are a lot of questions that haven't been worked out. It's going to just be looked at, reanalyzed. Maybe they'll be a little bit of a modification, tweaking. I don't think we will see a wholesale replacement of Dodd-Frank. There are several things in Dodd-Frank we think are very counterproductive.

Q: Like what?

A: Well, the Durbin Amendment, the spinning out of the derivatives business, we think actually makes the system riskier. But we supported a lot of the regulation. When people say we fought regulation, no, we did not. We supported higher capital liquidity standards; we supported resolution authority; we supported standardized derivatives going to exchanges. What we didn't support was an independent agency we thought should've been part of another agency (in the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau). We have too many regulators in this country. We should have fewer regulators but with real authorities.

The government has the right to change laws and rules and regulations. There were serious problems that happened, and serious things needed to be changed. We completely agree with all that. But the devil's in the details sometimes, and the details are what we're still trying to figure out. We have to ask ourselves: Can we service our clients in the same way, or are their costs going to go up? I would say it was done so quickly and there's so much that was done, and it wasn't done with deep knowledge of what was being done. You have a 2,000-page bill and we're still trying to figure out what some of the things mean.

Q: Are there policies that should be changed to encourage companies to hire more workers?

A: It may be true that some people aren't hiring because of regulation, but for most people, it's really that they need to see a better order book to hire. And you don't need to change regulation to have a growing economy. Clearly, if there's too much regulation, that would be bad. For us, we hired 8,000 people in the U.S. last year. We have to deal with a tremendous amount of regulation, but it's not going to stop us from opening a branch somewhere.

Q: Is the corporate story one of the best parts of the economic recovery?

A: Those large corporations have a lot of money and are borrowing. High-yield bonds had a very good year last year. The rates are almost at historical lows. The markets are wide open. Financial conditions are easing. Even middle market loans. This is mostly private companies, not small business, a little bit bigger. We've seen the last couple quarters going up. They've been coming down for years. It's a good sign, and I gather that a lot of other banks saw the same thing.

Q: You're seeing companies increasingly derive more and more revenue from areas like China, India and Brazil because that's where the growth is. Is it fair to say that's basically going to be the story of 2011, the way it was of 2010?

A: No. I hope the story of 2011 is that America gets its mojo back. You've got to remember that America has the best universities; it's got some of the best businesses. It's got an unbelievable work ethic, rule of law. The story of 2011 will be America blossoming again.

Q: How?

A: Business, growth, jobs, technology. It's broad-based. There's not going to be one thing. We're applying technology every day in a hundred different ways. For example, you go to an iPhone app and you can deposit checks by iPhone now, by taking a picture of both sides.

Q: Is this a multiyear recovery? Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said it's going to take several years before employment levels get back or stabilize.

A: People may be surprised. Employment may grow faster than people think.

Q: Are there other red flags that you're watching closely in terms of recovery, other than housing and foreclosures?

A: One of the biggest red flags that's always there is geopolitics. It's there even when you're not thinking about it, because it can always surprise you. Obviously you're seeing that a little bit with Egypt. But that's always there, and it can always be in a way you don't expect it.

We watch trade closely and trade policy, and there's still a lot of fiscal monetary stimulation out there. Maybe rates can go up faster than people expect and be a negative.

Q: So what is your view of the Fed's QE2 program?

A: I can't think of why it wouldn't be helpful. While it does create a little uncertainty, I can't see why it would reduce growth. And we need growth. And I know there are future fears about inflation, but with high unemployment and low capacity utilization, that shouldn't be our No. 1 fear. What we need is growth and jobs. So it's helping. Ben Bernanke has done an outstanding job, and I have a lot of faith he'll continue to do that, including, remove some of the QE when the time is right.

02/20/2011 08:35:16 PM EST -- USAToday.com

JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon sees good times in 2011

Published Date: February 20, 2011 08:32:00 PM EST
Author: Maria Bartiromo, Special for USA TODAY
Jamie Dimon says the story of 2011 will be America blossoming again. Two years after the financial meltdown, the chairman and CEO of one the top U.S. banks, JPMorgan Chase, (JPM) says businesses have plenty of capital and are starting to expand again. Dimon should know, sitting atop more than $2 trillion in assets and overseeing 230,000 employees. Analyzing his more than 5,000 branches, and 90 million credit cards, Dimon says there are still some weak spots for the economy, such as foreclosures in the pipeline and new regulation which he says will make banking more expensive for customers. Dimon explains some of the higher fees coming your way in my interview, which has been edited for clarity and length.

Q: How do you characterize the economy right now?

A: The economy is getting stronger every day, and I would say it's rather broad-based, and hopefully this will continue. That's true globally. It's good for America when the rest of the world grows, because you can sell more to the rest of the world. Large corporations are in very good shape, have plenty of capital and are starting to expand. But we also see the same thing from middle market-sized companies and small businesses. Our small-business lending is up 37% this year. Other banks are also seeing more loan demand in middle markets and small business.

Q: What about foreclosures in the pipeline? How do you see that playing out, and why hasn't the housing market participated in this recovery?

A: The mortgage pain is just a terrible story. Too many mortgages were badly done. I'm not talking about us. But foreclosures haven't quite peaked yet. We're probably halfway or two-thirds through the problem. And so home prices are still going down a little bit, but have for the most part stabilized. I don't know what they're going to do in the next six months and nine months; we kind of plan for them to go down a little bit. The real story in housing will be a recovery in the economy that will drive a recovery in housing, When people are working, when there are more jobs, more households forming and people go back to buying cars, they're going to want their apartments and homes. And that's when you'll start to see a recovery in home prices.

Q: What about the credit quality of consumers?

A: Credit quality in credit cards got a lot better. Unfortunately mortgages, which have gotten better, are still terrible. But in reality, the consumer is spending. Consumer spending is up about 5% from where it was last year, and the consumer is saving about 5%. If you go back several years ago, their spending was about the same, but they were not saving. So that seems to me to be a stronger consumer.

Q: So a change we've seen since the financial upset two years ago is that people are hoarding more cash?

A: I would be careful about the word "hoarding." Companies and individuals have more cash than they normally have, and maybe that was a little bit out of fear and maybe a little bit because they don't know what to do with it. At corporations, we are starting to see them do stock buybacks, mergers and acquisitions, and pay dividends. And individually you are starting to see people spend more. So people have started to use the excess cash.

Q: Can you talk about the impact of some of the regulatory changes we've seen? The Dodd-Frank financial reform act and the Durbin Interchange Amendment. What changes will consumers feel?

A: The Durbin Amendment basically does not allow us to charge for the cost of a debit card. There is a cost of doing business; you've got to cover your costs. Our costs are ATMs, branches, bankers, systems, statements, online, all that kind of stuff. One of the ways you got paid was by charging on debit, and now that's gone. So banks will have to figure out other ways to charge for their product. Fair prices, not gouging, just fair prices to recover their costs, like any other business. And so the consumer will end up paying more. I don't think the consumer's going to benefit at all from this change.

Q: So what will they pay more for?

A: You're going to see minimum balances go up. Remember many years ago, you had monthly fees. You might see monthly fees come back. You're going to see reward programs be cut, like debit reward programs. You may even see some limit the use of debit cards. And we want to do it in a way that's consumer-friendly. But it will be done for general banking. We have decided to look at all options. We want to make sure we treat our customers well, but somehow we're going to have to find other ways to recover our costs.

Q: Do you think we'll see changes to Dodd-Frank?

A: It's the law of the land. There are a lot of questions that haven't been worked out. It's going to just be looked at, reanalyzed. Maybe they'll be a little bit of a modification, tweaking. I don't think we will see a wholesale replacement of Dodd-Frank. There are several things in Dodd-Frank we think are very counterproductive.

Q: Like what?

A: Well, the Durbin Amendment, the spinning out of the derivatives business, we think actually makes the system riskier. But we supported a lot of the regulation. When people say we fought regulation, no, we did not. We supported higher capital liquidity standards; we supported resolution authority; we supported standardized derivatives going to exchanges. What we didn't support was an independent agency we thought should've been part of another agency (in the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau). We have too many regulators in this country. We should have fewer regulators but with real authorities.

The government has the right to change laws and rules and regulations. There were serious problems that happened, and serious things needed to be changed. We completely agree with all that. But the devil's in the details sometimes, and the details are what we're still trying to figure out. We have to ask ourselves: Can we service our clients in the same way, or are their costs going to go up? I would say it was done so quickly and there's so much that was done, and it wasn't done with deep knowledge of what was being done. You have a 2,000-page bill and we're still trying to figure out what some of the things mean.

Q: Are there policies that should be changed to encourage companies to hire more workers?

A: It may be true that some people aren't hiring because of regulation, but for most people, it's really that they need to see a better order book to hire. And you don't need to change regulation to have a growing economy. Clearly, if there's too much regulation, that would be bad. For us, we hired 8,000 people in the U.S. last year. We have to deal with a tremendous amount of regulation, but it's not going to stop us from opening a branch somewhere.

Q: Is the corporate story one of the best parts of the economic recovery?

A: Those large corporations have a lot of money and are borrowing. High-yield bonds had a very good year last year. The rates are almost at historical lows. The markets are wide open. Financial conditions are easing. Even middle market loans. This is mostly private companies, not small business, a little bit bigger. We've seen the last couple quarters going up. They've been coming down for years. It's a good sign, and I gather that a lot of other banks saw the same thing.

Q: You're seeing companies increasingly derive more and more revenue from areas like China, India and Brazil because that's where the growth is. Is it fair to say that's basically going to be the story of 2011, the way it was of 2010?

A: No. I hope the story of 2011 is that America gets its mojo back. You've got to remember that America has the best universities; it's got some of the best businesses. It's got an unbelievable work ethic, rule of law. The story of 2011 will be America blossoming again.

Q: How?

A: Business, growth, jobs, technology. It's broad-based. There's not going to be one thing. We're applying technology every day in a hundred different ways. For example, you go to an iPhone app and you can deposit checks by iPhone now, by taking a picture of both sides.

Q: Is this a multiyear recovery? Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said it's going to take several years before employment levels get back or stabilize.

A: People may be surprised. Employment may grow faster than people think.

Q: Are there other red flags that you're watching closely in terms of recovery, other than housing and foreclosures?

A: One of the biggest red flags that's always there is geopolitics. It's there even when you're not thinking about it, because it can always surprise you. Obviously you're seeing that a little bit with Egypt. But that's always there, and it can always be in a way you don't expect it.

We watch trade closely and trade policy, and there's still a lot of fiscal monetary stimulation out there. Maybe rates can go up faster than people expect and be a negative.

Q: So what is your view of the Fed's QE2 program?

A: I can't think of why it wouldn't be helpful. While it does create a little uncertainty, I can't see why it would reduce growth. And we need growth. And I know there are future fears about inflation, but with high unemployment and low capacity utilization, that shouldn't be our No. 1 fear. What we need is growth and jobs. So it's helping. Ben Bernanke has done an outstanding job, and I have a lot of faith he'll continue to do that, including, remove some of the QE when the time is right.
02/20/2011 08:35:16 PM EST -- USAToday.com

JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon sees good times in 2011

Published Date: February 20, 2011 08:32:00 PM EST
Author: Maria Bartiromo, Special for USA TODAY
Jamie Dimon says the story of 2011 will be America blossoming again. Two years after the financial meltdown, the chairman and CEO of one the top U.S. banks, JPMorgan Chase, (JPM) says businesses have plenty of capital and are starting to expand again. Dimon should know, sitting atop more than $2 trillion in assets and overseeing 230,000 employees. Analyzing his more than 5,000 branches, and 90 million credit cards, Dimon says there are still some weak spots for the economy, such as foreclosures in the pipeline and new regulation which he says will make banking more expensive for customers. Dimon explains some of the higher fees coming your way in my interview, which has been edited for clarity and length.

Q: How do you characterize the economy right now?

A: The economy is getting stronger every day, and I would say it's rather broad-based, and hopefully this will continue. That's true globally. It's good for America when the rest of the world grows, because you can sell more to the rest of the world. Large corporations are in very good shape, have plenty of capital and are starting to expand. But we also see the same thing from middle market-sized companies and small businesses. Our small-business lending is up 37% this year. Other banks are also seeing more loan demand in middle markets and small business.

Q: What about foreclosures in the pipeline? How do you see that playing out, and why hasn't the housing market participated in this recovery?

A: The mortgage pain is just a terrible story. Too many mortgages were badly done. I'm not talking about us. But foreclosures haven't quite peaked yet. We're probably halfway or two-thirds through the problem. And so home prices are still going down a little bit, but have for the most part stabilized. I don't know what they're going to do in the next six months and nine months; we kind of plan for them to go down a little bit. The real story in housing will be a recovery in the economy that will drive a recovery in housing, When people are working, when there are more jobs, more households forming and people go back to buying cars, they're going to want their apartments and homes. And that's when you'll start to see a recovery in home prices.

Q: What about the credit quality of consumers?

A: Credit quality in credit cards got a lot better. Unfortunately mortgages, which have gotten better, are still terrible. But in reality, the consumer is spending. Consumer spending is up about 5% from where it was last year, and the consumer is saving about 5%. If you go back several years ago, their spending was about the same, but they were not saving. So that seems to me to be a stronger consumer.

Q: So a change we've seen since the financial upset two years ago is that people are hoarding more cash?

A: I would be careful about the word "hoarding." Companies and individuals have more cash than they normally have, and maybe that was a little bit out of fear and maybe a little bit because they don't know what to do with it. At corporations, we are starting to see them do stock buybacks, mergers and acquisitions, and pay dividends. And individually you are starting to see people spend more. So people have started to use the excess cash.

Q: Can you talk about the impact of some of the regulatory changes we've seen? The Dodd-Frank financial reform act and the Durbin Interchange Amendment. What changes will consumers feel?

A: The Durbin Amendment basically does not allow us to charge for the cost of a debit card. There is a cost of doing business; you've got to cover your costs. Our costs are ATMs, branches, bankers, systems, statements, online, all that kind of stuff. One of the ways you got paid was by charging on debit, and now that's gone. So banks will have to figure out other ways to charge for their product. Fair prices, not gouging, just fair prices to recover their costs, like any other business. And so the consumer will end up paying more. I don't think the consumer's going to benefit at all from this change.

Q: So what will they pay more for?

A: You're going to see minimum balances go up. Remember many years ago, you had monthly fees. You might see monthly fees come back. You're going to see reward programs be cut, like debit reward programs. You may even see some limit the use of debit cards. And we want to do it in a way that's consumer-friendly. But it will be done for general banking. We have decided to look at all options. We want to make sure we treat our customers well, but somehow we're going to have to find other ways to recover our costs.

Q: Do you think we'll see changes to Dodd-Frank?

A: It's the law of the land. There are a lot of questions that haven't been worked out. It's going to just be looked at, reanalyzed. Maybe they'll be a little bit of a modification, tweaking. I don't think we will see a wholesale replacement of Dodd-Frank. There are several things in Dodd-Frank we think are very counterproductive.

Q: Like what?

A: Well, the Durbin Amendment, the spinning out of the derivatives business, we think actually makes the system riskier. But we supported a lot of the regulation. When people say we fought regulation, no, we did not. We supported higher capital liquidity standards; we supported resolution authority; we supported standardized derivatives going to exchanges. What we didn't support was an independent agency we thought should've been part of another agency (in the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau). We have too many regulators in this country. We should have fewer regulators but with real authorities.

The government has the right to change laws and rules and regulations. There were serious problems that happened, and serious things needed to be changed. We completely agree with all that. But the devil's in the details sometimes, and the details are what we're still trying to figure out. We have to ask ourselves: Can we service our clients in the same way, or are their costs going to go up? I would say it was done so quickly and there's so much that was done, and it wasn't done with deep knowledge of what was being done. You have a 2,000-page bill and we're still trying to figure out what some of the things mean.

Q: Are there policies that should be changed to encourage companies to hire more workers?

A: It may be true that some people aren't hiring because of regulation, but for most people, it's really that they need to see a better order book to hire. And you don't need to change regulation to have a growing economy. Clearly, if there's too much regulation, that would be bad. For us, we hired 8,000 people in the U.S. last year. We have to deal with a tremendous amount of regulation, but it's not going to stop us from opening a branch somewhere.

Q: Is the corporate story one of the best parts of the economic recovery?

A: Those large corporations have a lot of money and are borrowing. High-yield bonds had a very good year last year. The rates are almost at historical lows. The markets are wide open. Financial conditions are easing. Even middle market loans. This is mostly private companies, not small business, a little bit bigger. We've seen the last couple quarters going up. They've been coming down for years. It's a good sign, and I gather that a lot of other banks saw the same thing.

Q: You're seeing companies increasingly derive more and more revenue from areas like China, India and Brazil because that's where the growth is. Is it fair to say that's basically going to be the story of 2011, the way it was of 2010?

A: No. I hope the story of 2011 is that America gets its mojo back. You've got to remember that America has the best universities; it's got some of the best businesses. It's got an unbelievable work ethic, rule of law. The story of 2011 will be America blossoming again.

Q: How?

A: Business, growth, jobs, technology. It's broad-based. There's not going to be one thing. We're applying technology every day in a hundred different ways. For example, you go to an iPhone app and you can deposit checks by iPhone now, by taking a picture of both sides.

Q: Is this a multiyear recovery? Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said it's going to take several years before employment levels get back or stabilize.

A: People may be surprised. Employment may grow faster than people think.

Q: Are there other red flags that you're watching closely in terms of recovery, other than housing and foreclosures?

A: One of the biggest red flags that's always there is geopolitics. It's there even when you're not thinking about it, because it can always surprise you. Obviously you're seeing that a little bit with Egypt. But that's always there, and it can always be in a way you don't expect it.

We watch trade closely and trade policy, and there's still a lot of fiscal monetary stimulation out there. Maybe rates can go up faster than people expect and be a negative.

Q: So what is your view of the Fed's QE2 program?

A: I can't think of why it wouldn't be helpful. While it does create a little uncertainty, I can't see why it would reduce growth. And we need growth. And I know there are future fears about inflation, but with high unemployment and low capacity utilization, that shouldn't be our No. 1 fear. What we need is growth and jobs. So it's helping. Ben Bernanke has done an outstanding job, and I have a lot of faith he'll continue to do that, including, remove some of the QE when the time is right.

JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon says "employment may grow faster than people think."

By Jennifer S. Altman for USA TODAY
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ChangNoi:

Nicht nur Harte Eier - halten hier durch ..

7
21.02.11 22:33

Wamu WKN 893906 News ! 9837532

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lander:

Costs of an Insider Trading to a Hedge Fund

5
21.02.11 22:34
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ZItat von Bopfan:

Check this out: www.pionline.com/article/20110221...

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For a firm that is leanly staffed like Tepper's the cost could be very steep. His is not a large fund as measured by assets under management (AUM) and he'd be deeply indicated in any insider trading investigation involving WMI securities so not only could it deplete his AUM, but his staff as well.


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lander:

seems like the negative nellies are the only...

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21.02.11 22:41
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ZItat von Yanik:

seems like the negative nellies are the only ones having convos with themselves today lol. I guess some corporate masters arent too happy with susmans discovery on what he already has on them.
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ZItat von STRIKEEAGLE dazu:

Roger that Yanik!... been here long enough to still believe we "will" be in the money.

Patience.

Rosen has done a very good job for his boss in casting doubt. He has towed the line and not waivered from "equity is out of the money". But... what else would he be chanting?

I circle back to, if we are out of the money, then why is this case dragging on for so long? NOT just because the real vultures want to keep billing. Because there is more value in what was transferred to JPM. A blind man could see there is value... and enough value that demonstrate that A's are actually > than L's. Walrath knows there is value also, and will approve the POR when she feels comfortable with whatever is ultimately used to substantiate the "value" of the bank. "It ain't $1.9 Billion"... IMO!

Holding LONG!

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lander:

Yahoo (Ballpark guess on trustee appointment...)

5
21.02.11 22:49
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interessante amerik. Dialoge seitens User "gibson7772" sowie User "Bopfan"...

MfG.L:)
"Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens"
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Oki-Wan 2.0:

@feldberg @all

16
21.02.11 22:52
Mittlerweile muss ich sagen, dass wir den Leuten aus dem IHub in gewissen Themen stark voraus sind, siehe hier ein Auszug aus Posting 60448 vom 12.5.2010:

Ich habe in einem meiner letzen Posts auf Washington Mutuals Einkaufstour der letzten 10 Jahre hingewiesen. Diese könnten Aufschluss über WaMu’s Assets geben bzw. eine grobe Annäherung. Die größten Übernahmen  -  Great Western Bank (1997), H.F. Ahmanson & Co. (1998), Dime Bancorp, Inc. (2002), Providian Financial Corp. (2005) – beliefen sich auf ein Volumen von mehreren Mrd. $ (aber insgesamt weniger als im I-Hub angegeben). Sicherlich gibt es viel mehr „geschluckte“ Unternehmen (ca. 29 seit 1990), doch wollte ich der Einfachheit wegen bei diesen vier Firmen bleiben.
Nach Durchsicht diverser Seiten im Netz habe ich jedenfalls folgende Infos zu den einzelnen Unternehmen gefunden:

Great Western Bank (Great Western Financial Corporation):

Great Western Financial offered traditional thrift products -- savings accounts, CDs, and mortgage loans -- as well as checking accounts, credit cards, asset management, investment advice, mutual funds (through its Sierra Trust funds), consumer finance, and insurance sales. Washington Mutual's $6.8 billion purchase of the Chatsworth, California-based firm was completed in 1997. Great Western's last reported sales were $3.6 billion in 1996.

The next year chairman Montgomery passed the office of CEO to president John Maher, who accelerated the drive toward banking services. In 1996 the company announced a $115 million restructuring program that would eliminate 800 jobs, consolidate mortgage banking branches, and install new technology. In late 1996 Great Western sold its student loan business to Crestar Bank. In early 1997 California thrift H.F. Ahmanson launched a hostile takeover bid for the company, but Washington Mutual's friendly offer won out later that year.
Quelle: www.scripophily.net/grwefico19.html
und en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Western_Bank

Assets and Liabilities (December 31, 1996)
Assets    $40,136,456,000
Quelle: www.faqs.org/banks/...29602-Chatsworth-California.html#Reports



H.F. Ahmanson & Co. (Parent of Home Savings of America):

…. Yet Ahmanson was stuck in a dreary, low-return business and faced competitors that could either buy it or bury it. So Rinehart sold at the market's top and sealed his team's fate….
… a $55 billion-in-assets California savings and loan…
…$6.4 billion deal…
Quelle: www.businessweek.com/1998/47/b3605121.htm

… In 1998, Seattle-based thrift Washington Mutual (WaMu) purchased HF Ahmanson and its Home Savings unit for $10 billion (?). As a result of this takeover and those of American Savings and Great Western Financial, Washington Mutual became California’s second largest bank. At the time, HF Ahmanson had $55 billion in assets…
Quelle: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._F._Ahmanson_%26_Co.


Dime Bancorp:

… Holding company for Dime Savings Bank of New York and of North American Mortgage Company, with total assets of $27B. Acquired by Washington Mutual in 2001/02…

Quelle: www.nndb.com/company/737/000125362/

Washington Mutual Inc., the nation's largest savings and loan, is buying Dime Bancorp for $5.2 billion in cash and stock in a deal that would give Washington Mutual a foothold in the Northeast and expand its mortgage business… Last year, Dime, based in New York, averted a hostile takeover by the North Fork Bancorporation.
Dime, founded in 1859 to serve people who saved 10 cents at a time, has more than $27 billion in assets with 123 branches in the New York City area and 233 residential loan offices. It serves more than 1 million households and has about 6,500 workers. Washington Mutual, whose roots extend to 1889, has $219 billion in assets and operates more than 1,225 branches and nearly 400 residential loan offices across the country. It serves 5.4 million households and has about 30,000 employees.
Quelle: www.nytimes.com/2001/06/26/business/...tion-s-largest-s-l.html

DIME Bancorp is a national mortgage origination and servicing business and leading regional bank in the New York market with over 120 branches throughout New York City, Long Island, and northern New Jersey. When Warburg Pincus invested in DIME in July 2000, the company was the focus of a hostile tender offer by North Fork Bancorporation. DIME's management and Board believed that North Fork's bid did not adequately represent the underlying value of Dime's franchise and that there would be substantial integration risk in merging the two organizations….
… The significant progress performed by management, combined with the strength of DIME's franchise, positioned DIME as the preferred platform for Washington Mutual, Inc., the largest thrift in the US and the largest originator and provider of residential mortgages. In June 2001, DIME entered into a friendly merger with Washington Mutual, at more than twice the value of North Fork's hostile bid a year earlier. The merger with Washington Mutual closed in January 2002.

Quelle: www.warburgpincus.com/portfolio/ViewCompany,id,110.aspx


Providian Financial Corp.:

Providian Financial Corporation is one of the leading issuers of credit cards in the United States. As of late 2002, the company had more than 13 million customer accounts and $20 billion in managed receivables. During the 1990s, the company grew rapidly by aggressively targeting the subprime segment of the credit market (which includes higher risk customers with prior credit problems or limited credit history), while charging higher interest rates and imposing higher service charges. This strategy proved to be fatally flawed, and in the early 21st century, Providian launched a turnaround effort that included a new focus on the middle market and prime credit sectors. …
… 2000: Providian Financial agrees to repay consumers $300 million to settle allegations of deceptive business practices. …
… Despite these setbacks, Providian remained a Wall Street darling, with its market capitalization skyrocketing 453 percent from 1997 to 2000. Late in 2000, the stock hit its all-time high of $66.72 per share. By that time, the company ranked as the number five credit card issuer in the nation, with $30 billion in card balances--one-third of which was attributable to subprime customers.
To maintain the company's spectacular growth, which had been fueled in large part by the interest and fee income garnered from Providian's subprime customers, Mehta began seeking out more and more subprime customers. The company lowered its standards, giving cards to customers who would previously have been rejected by Providian's sophisticated mathematical models. With the economy faltering and subprime customers among the first to feel the effects, consumer bankruptcies and subprime default rates began to rise. Charge-offs for uncollectable loans began to rise quickly, increasing from 7.6 percent in the fall of 2000 to 12.1 percent one year later. In August 2001 Providian revealed about $30 million in credit losses for the second quarter. During the third quarter, credit losses helped spark a 71 percent decline in net income from the previous year. During the second half of 2001, Wall Street finally discovered the extent of the company's problems and punished the stock price, which fell 92 percent from July to October--to less than $5.
Quelle: www.answers.com/topic/providian-financial-corporation

SEATTLE -- Washington Mutual, Inc. (NYSE:WM), today announced the company has completed its acquisition of Providian Financial in a stock and cash transaction valued at approximately $6.1 billion. For each share of Providian common stock, Providian stockholders will receive 0.4005 shares of Washington Mutual common stock and $2.00 in cash.

Quelle: findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/...05_Oct_3/ai_n15657066/

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Eine Überschlagsrechnung hatte ich damals auch schon angestellt, aber das sollte euch diesmal bei eurer persönlichen Preisermittlung von WMI nicht beeinflussen.
Ich darf gespannt sein, auf welche Ergebnisse ihr kommt.

Beste Grüße,
Oki-Wan 2.0
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Pjöngjang:

FDIC May Sue WaMu Executives .

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21.02.11 23:29
The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. has sent letters to former executives of the failed Washington Mutual Bank warning of possible legal action, according to a person familiar with the situation.

The FDIC has discussed damages of $1 billion in relation to the potential Washington Mutual lawsuit, says a person familiar with the matter. The person said a decision against former executives of WaMu, the largest institution to be seized by regulators during the financial crisis, could be made within the next 30 days. It is unclear which former WaMu executives would be charged.

Such letters, designed in part to encourage executives to reach a settlement under their directors' and officers' liability insurance, can be a precursor to a lawsuit.

The potential action against executives of WaMu would be the most prominent attempt to date by the FDIC to bring cases against bank executives for alleged wrongdoing during the crisis. The FDIC has authorized the filing of lawsuits seeking to recover $2.6 billion from 130 officers and directors, as pressure mounts to identify bankers responsible for the largest number of failures in nearly 20 years.

So far, the FDIC has filed civil lawsuits against former officers and directors of just four of the more than 300 banks that have failed since 2008. The actions include a suit seeking $300 million from four former executives at IndyMac Bancorp, the Pasadena, Calif., lender that was shut in July 2008.

Washington Mutual's collapse in September 2008 was the largest-ever U.S. banking failure. The FDIC, as receiver, sold the bank's assets to J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. for $1.8 billion. For more than two years, WaMu's bankrupt parent, Washington Mutual Inc.; the FDIC; J.P. Morgan Chase, and bondholders have been fighting over billions of dollars in assets left behind.

The executives in charge when WaMu went down, including former Chief Executive Officer Kerry Killinger, defended their actions before a U.S. Senate subcommittee in 2010. Lawmakers claimed Mr. Killinger and other executives tolerated fraudulent lending, knowingly dumped problem loans on investors and did too little, too late to stem problems once they threatened to sink the thrift.

Mr. Killinger, who told the subcomittee he reduced risky lending as the housing market worsened, on Monday declined to comment on the potential FDIC action.
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der_erste_klon:

wsj artikel

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22.02.11 01:30
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The FDIC has sent letters to former executives of the failed Washington Mutual Bank warning of possible legal action, says a person familiar with the situation, and has discussed damages of $1 billion in relation to a potential lawsuit.
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zwiebelfrosch:

Nix mehr wert!

 
22.02.11 01:45
Sonst gibts nix zu sagen
Ich pushe weder nach Himmelsrichtung noch nach Stimmung !
Alles wird gut        und wenn's erst in 5 Jahren ist
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Teras:

@lander #125866: Der LINK, auf...

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22.02.11 01:48
Der LINK, auf den bopfan hinwies, war nicht (der nicht-Clickbare)

www.pionline.com/article/20110221...
sondern:
www.pionline.com/article/20110221/PRINTSUB/302219942

February 21, 2011, 12:01 AM ET
Insider-trading scandal costs 3 hedge funds a combined $9 billion
U.S. attorney's investigation has wary institutions pulling money
By Christine WILLIAMSON:

"Three hedge funds that were brushed by federal insider-trading investigations in the past three months will lose a collective $9 billion, the result of high redemptions from nervous institutional investors, hedge funds of funds and others.

As sources predicted when news of two separate investigations broke in November, being included within the probes cast enough of a cloud over hedge fund managers Level Global Investors LP, Diamondback Capital Management LLC and FrontPoint Partners to prompt institutional investors and hedge fund-of-funds managers to ask for their money back. None of the firms has been charged with wrongdoing.

Level Global Investors has not disclosed the level of the redemption requests it received, but has announced it is closing and returning all of the $4 billion it manages in its funds to investors by the end of the quarter"...

LG: Teras.
Den Vorhang AUF, der Krimi geht weiter...
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St-Jean-Cap-F.:

Kann es sein, dass man Killinger uner Druck setzen

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22.02.11 07:43
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... will? Und könnte dieser Schuss für die FDIC auch nach hinten losgehen?

Gruss, St. JCF
Ich denke gerne das Undenkbare
Meine Meinung. Keine Handelsempfehlung

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St-Jean-Cap-F.:

Das sollten wir auch mal diskutieren

3
22.02.11 07:56
http://www.ariva.de/...KN_893906_News_t364286?page=5034#jumppos125873

Ist das wirklich so interessant, wie es auf den resten Blick aussieht?
Wie wäre es mit Erklärungen des englischen Textes?

Man spricht hier von November, nicht von der bei Walrath kürzllich zugelassenen Ermittlung, die morgen abläuft.

Meinungen, Erklärungen?


Gruss, St. JCF
Ich denke gerne das Undenkbare
Meine Meinung. Keine Handelsempfehlung

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Teras:

@St.JCF: Das ist genau des Pudels Kern:

24
22.02.11 09:03
Die FDIC hat dem ehemaligen Management schon im November alle möglichen Klage-Forderungen angedroht, um sie als Zeugen gegen das derzeitige, JPM-Chase-hörige Board of Directors RUHIG zu stellen...

Meint jeden Falles:
Der olle Teras.
Den Vorhang AUF, der Krimi geht weiter...
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Teras:

Es gab damals im November...

27
22.02.11 09:16
Es gab damals im November einen Rundum-Schlag wegen des Vorwurfs des Insider-Handels. - Dabei wurden einige erwischt, auf die der Vorwurf Tat-sächlich zutrifft.

Aber auch etliche Hedge-Funds, denen man gar Nichts nachweisen konnte, ja, denen von behördlicher Seite sogar ausdrücklich bescheinigt wurde, dass sie sich KEINES "wrong-Doing's" schuldig gemacht haben, sahen sich gleichwohl gezwungen, von ihnen gemanagte Fonds durch Rückzahlung derer Einlagen an die Investoren aufzulösen...

Einen ähnlichen Mechanismus sehe ich hinter denen, meiner Erinnerung nach ebenfalls im November 2010 ruchbar gewordenen Anschuldigungen gegen das alte Management der WMI.

Bitte corrigiert mich, wenn ich mich bezüglich des Datum's irre.
LG: Teras.
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