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Winner2010:

@spaßzocker....he, he..

 
25.08.10 18:12
wer lesen kann...ist im vorteil

warum so nervös ??

einfach ma durch die hose atmen !!
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storm 300018:

WaMu: Court News

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25.08.10 18:12
WaMu Must Face Lawsuit During Reorganization Hearing

Washington Mutual Inc., the former owner of the biggest U.S. bank to fail, must face a trial over who owns $4 billion in low-ranking debt known as trust-preferred securities before it can end its bankruptcy.

U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Mary F. Walrath in Wilmington, Delaware scheduled a trial of an investor lawsuit to begin on Nov. 1, the first day of a so-called confirmation hearing on the company’s reorganization proposal. Lawyers for WaMu and investors, including Black Horse Capital LP and Lonestar Partners LP, agreed the issue must be resolved before WaMu can end its bankruptcy and distribute more than $6 billion to creditors.

As the confirmation hearing continues in early November, other critics of WaMu’s plan may want to use any facts or arguments presented by the investors to attack the reorganization proposal, Walrath said. Shareholders claim that the holding company’s bank should never have been seized by regulators and sold to JPMorgan Chase & Co. in 2008.

In July, a group of investors sued JPMorgan over the way the trust-preferred securities were converted from debt-like investments into equity. The securities are part of a settlement among WaMu, JPMorgan and federal regulators.

The case is In Re Washington Mutual Inc., 08-12229, U.S. Bankruptcy Court, District of Delaware (Wilmington).

www.businessweek.com/news/2010-08-25/...las-in-court-news.html
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sleepless13:

@no-doubt:

 
25.08.10 18:16
Das war mir logischerweise klar.Ich wollte damit nur noch einmal aufzeigen wie das Spiel von JPM auch mit anderen Banken läuft.
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cropop:

ähm...hallo.....

11
25.08.10 18:19

bin neu hier und habe keine lust mir die letzten 300 Seiten durchzulesen.könnte mich einer  in ein paar sätzen informieren um was es hier geht.gestern muss wohl ein wichtiger termin gewesen sein.ist er gut verlaufen.........................????bitte nur ernst gemeinte antworten schreiben.und wenn es geht langsam schreiben ich bin nicht besonders schnell beim lesen.auch nichts in englischer sprache weil ich eh nix verstehe.  vielen Dank.

Meine Traummaße lauten((50x3)-25) :1.7
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Chance 2 Risi.:

@Winner 2010

 
25.08.10 18:19
Wie das ding heißen wird, weis ich nicht.
Auf jeden fall stinkt es nach DOLLAR.
Da täuscht sich meine nase selten.
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lander:

Post von Fish (I Hub)

5
25.08.10 18:20
investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=53707405

Zitat:

Posted by: fsshon   Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:06:43 PM
In reply to: uzualsuzpect who wrote msg# 232718 Post # of 232755    

Not only is the DS/POR dead, the Global Settlement is also Dead. Examiner will have a very hard time getting the documents he needs from JPM. They will stall him (even if he has subpeona powers) they do not care. They will stand behind their 5th amendment rights and push the examiner back into the courtroom asking THJMW to force them to cooperate.

The GS is premised upon WMI (debtors) doing enough DD that they felt it would be in their best interest to delete the liabilty to all parties and settle their claims for much less than they are worth. They say through their "work product privilege" they were able to conclude it would take more time and expense to prosecute the claims they charged in their original filings and felt it was the estate's best interest to settle them. They can not even prove they did an Asset valuation or future claims valuation properly and professionally. It was a Cover Up from the start. Shed debt and equity and sell new shares to hedge funds and JPM affiliated funds and of course the bondholders who would therefore own the rest of what's left after JPM illegally pillaged WMI and WMI did not seem to care.

This whole thing stinks and we have been constantly harping on the fact they were given discovery powers under Rule 2004 to subpeona and depose the players on the JPM/FDIC side of the field. They in turn billed the estate for "IMPOTENT" discovery work that was never performed. They in turn decided after their "so called" due diligence that settling was better than litigating. They are just as much crooks as JPM/FDIC are and should also be prosecuted from misrepresentation and gross negligence in the handling of the estate. Ethics review Boards should be gearing up to accept a large numer of professionals. The UST should be prosecuting these violations soon, once it is proven they committed BK fraud.

It seems they had this intention from the start. They did get the claims into the FDIC and JPM in time for limitation, so Susman can "through the examiner" request a Case trustee who will be prosecuting the case. We will be here well into 2011, because JPM and The FDIC will stall a Trustee, just like they are going to stall the Examiner when it comes time to depose Dimon and the rest of the crooks.

Dimon will never be deposed, because he is being protected by the Government. JPM will do what JPM does so well and that is delay this case and make shareholders lose more $$$$ in fees while trying to pursue the "deep pockets" of JPM. WMI is wanting to depose the EC, that is crock and THJMW shot that down a couple of weeks ago. Why does Weil need to depose the EC and not JPM/FDIC officials like they were supposed to in Fall of last year? That my friends brings us to the crux of the argument about representation.

The Examiner needs to come into the courtroom on Sept 7th, say what I just said and ask for a Case trustee, therefore virtually relieving Weil. Then we can be rest assured our future is in the hands of the right team.

You don't give up 30 Billion in potential litigation claims for nothing. You do not give your money away, so you can get money that was originally yours. You litigate and you put your exisitng money in the bank to show your solvency and pay off your creditors. A is above L and the Examiner will prove it and then Susman can actually get control of this case.

TPS will have a hard time proving anything agianst JPM, because their discovery efforts will be blocked by Weil (why?) Because Weil does not represent the estate like they were charged with doing. Weil should be "all in" for TPS discovering new evidence and documents that support their argument, instead they are blocking TPS's efforts. Does anyone feel TPS deserves to be allowed to discover everything they need to prove their case? Yes !!! THJMW said "many will want to ride your coattails" that means she feels or thinks the debtors will want to use and see the info you disocver to bolster their case.. Not on your life, they want to hide it all. Susman will want to see it and will be riding the coattails as they ask for a Case trustee. If the appointment of a Case trustee in the context of the law for which its use was written, this case warrants the need for one. DIP's have screwed it up and cost the estate hundreds of millions in fees in the process, essentially raping the estate fo valuable resources that are needed to prosecute the claims against JPM and FDIC.

You see Weil definitely has a COI (conflict of interest) and needs to be removed from this case and let the true professionals who will have the original owners (equity) interests in mind and at hand. A case Trustee will be asked for, because the examiner will expose the breach. Just like Ilovestocks wrote, Weil and the rest of the crooks should not be paid for ripping off the estate.

Now here is what I am getting at.. Unfortunately it is time to compose a new letter to THJMW asking for a Case Trustee who will be a "disinterested 3rd party" to take over the responsibilites of DIP (debtor in possession) of this case. It is apparent our current reps should be fired and new ones in the form of a trustee installed. I have a distinct feeling that will be a recommendation in the examiners report. If we think the examiner's reps check the court filings to keep him updated, we may (just like we did with the UST request for an EC) put a "bug in his ear" and actually compel him to ask for appointment.

We need to get the power of Weil off this case and move it forward, knocking out the roadblocks they seem to be putting up for some reason. Time to drive a Big Concrete Truck right through the roadblocks and get to a clear road ahead.

The last letter I wrote had over 200 Ihub shareholder signatures on it. The new one should have at least double that. i will get to work on as soon as I can.. I need someone to send me billing analysis, against actual work performed, so I can include direct evidence in the letter. Anything you think should be included in the letter in supporting the need for a Case trustee to be appointed should be sent to my email at

myinvesco@gmail.com

Thanks..

~Fish~
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"Der Schein regiert die Welt, und die Gerechtigkeit ist nur auf der Bühne".(Parasit)

Und es herrscht der Erde Gott, das Geld.(An die Freude)
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storm 300018:

Link wurde

2
25.08.10 18:21
Why the EC attorney stood to be heard on 8-24-2010

I think that I know why the EC attorney stood to be heard when they were about to adjourn yesterday. You can listen to this from the audio (www.viewip.net/WMI/Hearing/2010-0... (thanks astock) starting at about the 56 minute mark.

The EC attorneys can't communicate to us directly - only through what is said in open court. They wanted us to know that the whole EC depositions thing is still on the table. And communicate they did! Following are just a few points that I picked up on. I'm sure all of you can think of some others.

- The EC team is not afraid to pull surprises and stand to be heard. Rosen is out classed with this team.

- Rosen (milk man) can be very unprofessional (as if we needed any confirmation of this). Seriously, nearly yelling over such a seemingly small item.

- My impression (until yesterday) is that the Milk Man had let this thing drop. Obviously he hadn't and he still hates Equity - the very ones he is supposed to be working for. The EC team wanted to call him out for this and this is what made him so mad. I think its kind of funny to listen to his rants. Kind of like standing in the store watching someone else's kid scream and kick when he doesn't get candy.

- This action is moving at light-speed and the EC team needed guidance from the court so that they will be prepared (listen to at the 1 hr mark). Rosen has been refusing to discuss such maters up to now.

- Rosen doesn't know how to pronounce Oregon.

- Rosen doesn't know what is going on! He accused the EC team of refusing discovery by only allowing two depositions. In reality all four had been scheduled when he was ranting to THJMW.

- 1 of the dep. will be this week, 3 next week.

- The notice that briefing was complete had been filed (1:04:14 mark). The Rosen team then decided to take discovery which "puts us in and awkward procedural posture" (EC Atny's words).

Not sure when the examiner will file his report, but with Labor Day and all, hopefully the court will have time to read it before court time on the 7th. The 7th is shaping up to be a very busy session. And we thought the agenda was long now....
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25.08.10 18:21
Minute Entry for Hearing Held on August 24, 2010 at 2:00 p.m.
www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229100825000000000001.pdf

Omnibus Order Awarding Interim Allowance of Compensation for Services Rendered and for Reimbursement of Expense
www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229100825000000000002.pdf

Order Awarding Venable LLP, as Counsel for the Official Committee of Equity Security Holders, Final Compensation and Reimbursement of Expenses
www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229100825000000000003.pdf
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Goedecke:

@ cropop

4
25.08.10 18:21
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sleepless13:

@ cropop

4
25.08.10 18:21
Alles wird gut,kaufen mit allem was du hast.
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storm 300018:

Could Investors Shake Boardrooms?

 
25.08.10 18:24
www.dailymarkets.com/stock/2010/08/25/...ors-shake-boardrooms/

www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/...

www.coleschotz.com/
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Winner2010:

@spaßzocker...eh klar..

2
25.08.10 18:24
ist dein name programm ??

regst dich über andere posting auf.....
aber du nimmst dir natürlich selbstherrlich heraus,
wie gerade im obigen posting passiert....

a) namen zu verunglimpfen...
b) einen anderen user als "voltröte" zu bezeichnen...

vor solchen leuten habe ich "besonderen" respekt...grins, grins
einfach nur kopfschüttel....
hoffentlich kommt bald settlement....ich glaube, hier sind
einige etwas über ihre verhältnisse investiert....
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cropop:

wehe einer reagiert....

6
25.08.10 18:24
auf mein letztes post.....

leute locker bleiben....lehnt euch zurück.....entspannt euch.....wird alles gut...


und vor allen lasst das rumgezicke......läuft doch alles soweit nach plan....


wollt euch nur ein grinsen ins gesicht zaubern.....


gruß an alle investierten.....

cropop
Meine Traummaße lauten((50x3)-25) :1.7
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MacBull:

@Spaßzocker mit dir hat man schon seinen Spaß ;-)

 
25.08.10 18:24
Bist wohl intellektuell nicht ganz so auf der Höhe und brauchst einen "Führer" !!

Und English scheinst du ja auch nicht zu können *lach* !!

Ich glaube, du bist schon im richtigen "Verein" ganz gut aufgehoben ;-)

Wamu wird den Weg der Gerechtigkeit gehen und ist auf Gurus und Trolls nicht angewiesen!!

Das die FDIC einen Fehler gemacht hat und Wamu zum Spottpreis an JP veräußert hat, sollte auch dem Dümmsten langsam mal klar werden !!

MacBull
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blackrain:

@cropop

3
25.08.10 18:25
häne hoch banküberfall !
paar dollars auf die straße gefallen.
wem gehören sie?
1. Bankräuber
2. Finder
3.dem Anleger!!

mfg @all
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Wanderreiter:

Für Cropop

 
25.08.10 18:30
hier gehts um viel Kohle , zeit lass, und gestern ist nix davon gekommen, zeit lass, aber vielleicht klappts ja heute, zeit las. Alles klar, "Neuer", Klonkgruß WR
Wortwitz ist der Witz mit Worten. Viele schreiben mit Worten nur Witze. Über Witze lacht man oder man fällt auf sie rein. Mit 26 Buchstaben kann man unendlich formulieren und manipulieren
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MacBull:

@ Winner: Immer locker bleiben, gönn doch einigen

 
25.08.10 18:30
ihren Spaß beim zocken ;-)

Dein Name sagt doch schon alles, na ja und andere Nicks eben auch ;-)

Und mit wamuq könnten wir noch richtig Spaß beim Zocken haben ;-)

MacBull
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cropop:

ah ja...

 
25.08.10 18:31
danke Wanderreiter....danke für die info......


klonkgruß zurück


cropop
Meine Traummaße lauten((50x3)-25) :1.7
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Wanderreiter:

Höhe der Entschädiggung durch JPM

2
25.08.10 18:34
Für alle Wamulaner die nicht klonk sind: lest einfach mal die Maße von Post 85118 durch, vielleicht könnt ihr was damit anfangen, und für alle Cleverle, diese Formel kann man sogar herleiten, allerdings muss sie nicht richtig sein. Klonkgruß WR
Wortwitz ist der Witz mit Worten. Viele schreiben mit Worten nur Witze. Über Witze lacht man oder man fällt auf sie rein. Mit 26 Buchstaben kann man unendlich formulieren und manipulieren
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MacBull:

Ach ja, noch was : Ich werde hier keine Meldung

5
25.08.10 18:34
machen:" Mod, Mod, der hat mich beleidigt, lösche bitte,bitte, bitte das Posting.

Da stehe ich über den Dingen und denke, jeder sollte sich FREI äußern dürfen!!
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fundmuni:

Gestern

6
25.08.10 18:41
Schaut mal auf die Liste wer alles Gestern im Gericht war bzw. zugehört hat. Ganz soooo uninteressant scheint der Termin ja nicht gewesen zu sein ;)

www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229100825000000000001.pdf
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weckste:

FRAGE

 
25.08.10 18:43
...derzeit habe ich leider nicht so viel Zeit für das Forum zu verfolgen, weil ich mich in einem Auslandseinsatz der BW befinde. Gestern war ja ein Hearing und wenn ich mich recht erinnere, soll heute doch auch noch was sein. Oder?

Gruß weckste

KLONK KLONK
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fellloses Papp.:

@weckste bzgl. Hering

 
25.08.10 18:55
Der Hering ist schon längst gegessen.  Heute kommt was anderes auf den Tisch!
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Bamberger69:

@weckste

2
25.08.10 19:02
Also auf dem Kalender steht für heute nix- oder hat jemand ne andere Info?


Nimm Dir für den 7.Sept. Wachfrei, damit Du alles mitkriegst!


www.world-of-stocks.com/individual_values/wamuq


Gruss BA
2.SG S66
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