? AAC ?

Personnel and consulting expenses were $56,516 or 42.1% of our operating expenses during the three-month period ended March 31, 2003 as compared to $138,128 or 51.3% of our operating expenses during the three-month period ended March 31, 2002. These expenses consisted of salaries and benefits of $22,853 (compared to $87,288 in 2002), consulting and management fees of $31,885 (compared to $50,840 in 2002), and commissions of $1,778 (compared to $0.00 in 2002). We anticipate that such personnel and consulting expenses will decrease as a result of the cost containment efforts we began implementing in 2002.

During the three-month period ended March 31, 2003, advertising and promotion expenses were $10,915 or 8.1% of our operating expenses as compared to $17,194 or 6.4% of our operating expenses for the three-month period ended March 31, 2002. Advertising expenses were lower in comparison to 2002 as we began to realize the benefit of having our licensees advertise using the name Ableauctions. We anticipate promotion expenses to increase during the remainder of 2003 as the number of auctions and liquidations increase.

General overhead expenses totalled $35,514 this quarter (compared to $60,259 in 2002) or 19.3% (compared to 14.8%) of our total operating expenses and 25.3% (compared to 74.7%) of our total revenue. Rent and utilities totalled $12,817, telephone $2,281, travel related to operations $1798, repairs and maintenance $603, automotive $799, insurance $10,281 and office expenses $7,935.

We anticipate that overhead as a percentage of operating expenses and total revenue will decrease in future periods as we achieve certain economies from our operations. If we expand our operations, we anticipate that the overall level of general overhead expenses in dollars will increase.

Professional fees were $25,745 during the three-month period ended March 31, 2003 as compared to $14,707 for the three-month period ended March 31, 2002. The professional fees related to preparation of our Securities Exchange Act reports, professional fees associated with the preparation of our American Stock Exchange filings, and professional fees associated with our acquisitions and financings. We expect that professional fees will increase during the remainder of this fiscal year since we are prosecuting a legal action against a former employee. Furthermore, if we are able to do so, we intend to try to make at least one acquisition during this fiscal year. If we are successful in making an acquisition, we will be required to incur expenses relating to the drafting and review of the documents related to the transaction.

Depreciation and amortization expense was $45,820 for the three-month period ended March 31, 2003 as compared to $58,824 for the three-month period ended March 31, 2002.

Gross Profit. Cost of goods sold were $59,299 for the three-month period ended March 31, 2003 as compared to $33,077 for the three-month period ended March 31, 2002. Gross profits were $80,893 of revenues or 58% for the three-month period ended March 31, 2003 as compared to $47,577 or 59.0% of revenues for the period ended March 31, 2002. Until we developed our inventory procurement model, normal gross margins were approximately 25% overall. We believe gross profits will increase in future periods as we realize the benefits of our inventory procurement model by buying large quantities of discount merchandise and distributing this merchandise to our various outlets.

Operating Net Loss. For the quarter ended March 31, 2003, we realized loss from continuing operations of $92,226 as compared to the quarter ended March 31, 2002 in which we had net loss of $355,761. We realized an overall net income for the first quarter of 2003 of $3,971 or $0.01 per share as compared to a net loss of $368,241 for the first quarter of 2002, or $0.01 per share.

We believe that our operations will eventually become profitable. We believe that we will incur overall losses in the future only if we are able to obtain additional financing and expand the development and marketing of our Internet technology. The losses will be created to the extent of the excess of technology development and marketing over the income from operations. If we are unable to obtain additional financing, no Internet technology development and marketing will be undertaken.

Liquidity and Capital Resources

Our working capital position at March 31, 2003 was a positive of $84,467. We had cash and cash equivalents of $21,198, accounts receivables of $451,883, inventory of $106,183, and prepaid expenses of $42,786 at March 31, 2003. We anticipate that trade accounts receivables and inventory may increase during the remainder of fiscal 2003 as we increase the number and frequency of our auctions and as we expand our business operations. Cash flow used for operating activities required $3,978 during the quarter ended March 31, 2003. We anticipate that cash will remain constant for 2003. Our cash resources may decrease if we complete an acquisition during 2003, or if we are unable to maintain positive cash flow from our business through 2003.

Cash flow used in investing activities during the quarter ended March 31, 2003 was a negative of $124,407. Net cash flow from financing activities during the quarter ended March 31, 2003 was $2,854.

Unless we are able to obtain financing, we are not planning to make significant capital expenditures during the 2003 fiscal year. We believe that revenues from our operations and current working capital will be sufficient to satisfy our working capital needs for the remainder of 2003.

Outlook

We believe that our efforts at cost containment and the changes we have made to our technology will provide us with benefits in the future. It is our intent to complete one acquisition during the 2003 fiscal year, although we have not entered into any agreement to do so.

We intend to meet our cash requirements through revenues generated from our operations and private or public placements of our equity or debt securities. We are currently seeking financing but we cannot assure you that we will obtain financing on acceptable terms, if at all. If our revenues are not adequate to meet our cash requirements and we cannot obtain financing, we may be required to abandon some of our operations, sell some of our assets or certain business operations or liquidate our business, all of which will have a material adverse effect on our business and results of operations.

During the 2003 fiscal year we will continue to operate at our locations in Washington and Coquitlam, British Columbia, conducting both auctions and liquidations. We also will continue to conduct auctions at customer locations in bankruptcies and insolvencies. Through our wholly owned subsidiary iCollector, we currently conduct approximately 75 auctions per year on eBay for our antique and collectible clients and approximately 36 auctions per year using our own technology.

We intend to aggressively market the iCollector services jointly with eBay and expand the iCollector workforce to enable us to conduct more auctions in Europe and North America. We intend to engage strategic partners to conduct auctions for us on a commission basis, as necessary, rather than sustain the significant overhead associated with managing and maintaining permanent auction facilities.

We plan to continue our research and development efforts to improve our web site and auction broadcasting technologies. We continuously maintain and refine our live auction broadcasting technologies by increasing the speed of our bidding process, the preview of merchandise and the method of registering bidders. We anticipate that we will spend approximately $200,000 on our research and development efforts during the 2003 fiscal year.

We intend to broadcast the auctions of other auction houses from a variety of locations throughout North America, to continue licensing our software to other auction companies and to continue marketing efforts in the remainder of 2003. We also intend to identify possible candidates for strategic relationships or a possible acquisition.

Hire additional key personnel

We anticipate adding up to 5 new employees with e-commerce, software development, sales and software maintenance experience during 2003 to manage and market our iCollector division. The hiring of these employees will be subject to the Company increasing profits and obtaining additional financing.



(c) 1995-2003 Cybernet Data Systems, Inc. All Rights Reserved


Received by Edgar Online May 15, 2003


CIK Code: 0001099290
Accession Number: 0001134821-03-000032

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Time  Price  Volume  Exchange  Info

Vorbörslich.....

 
08:18:32    0.250 3500 Pacific  
08:17:30    0.240 2500 Pacific  
08:08:00    0.250 2000 Pacific  
08:07:55    0.240 5000 Pacific  
08:07:23    0.250 5000 Pacific  
N/A    N/A N/A AMEX  
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N/A    N/A N/A AMEX  
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N/A    N/A N/A AMEX

Uiiiiiiiiiiiiiii........

Fett !
MfG

 Waldy  

 SYMBOL: AAC NOTE: Stock data presented is 20 minutes delayed  
Ableauctions Common Incorporated Com New
Exchange: AMEX  
 

As of May 16, 10:10am ET
   
0.22 9:50am
+0.07 +46.67%



OPEN HIGH LOW VOLUME
0.21 0.23 0.16 1,022,200



     HIGH LOW
0.58
(6/19/02) 0.04
(3/28/03)

28,726,000
0.15

Waldy.....

*g*

05/17/03 15:19:38 0.190 0.190 0.190 10,000
05/17/03 15:18:16 0.200 0.200 0.200 11,500
05/17/03 15:15:45 0.200 0.190 0.200 31,000
05/17/03 15:12:57 0.200 0.200 0.200 50,000
05/17/03 15:06:09 0.190 0.190 0.190 500
05/17/03 15:04:41 0.200 0.200 0.200 3,500
05/17/03 15:03:56 0.190 0.190 0.190 25,000
05/17/03 15:02:35 0.190 0.190 0.190 50,000
05/17/03 14:58:12 0.190 0.190 0.190 15,000
05/17/03 14:54:25 0.200 0.200 0.200 2,200
05/17/03 14:53:27 0.200 0.200 0.200 14,000
05/17/03 14:51:00 0.200 0.200 0.200 500
05/17/03 14:47:03 0.200 0.200 0.200 20,000
05/17/03 14:45:10 0.200 0.200 0.200 11,900
05/17/03 14:44:29 0.210 0.210 0.210 35,000
05/17/03 14:36:30 0.200 0.200 0.200 3,400
05/17/03 14:35:37 0.200 0.200 0.200 1,000
05/17/03 14:29:18 0.210 0.200 0.210 5,700
05/17/03 14:26:22 0.200 0.200 0.200 900
05/17/03 14:20:22 0.200 0.200 0.200 1,700
05/17/03 14:17:46 0.200 0.200 0.200 500
05/17/03 14:15:24 0.200 0.200 0.200 5,000
05/17/03 14:14:14 0.190 0.190 0.190 2,500
05/17/03 14:09:55 0.200 0.200 0.200 1,300
05/17/03 14:06:49 0.200 0.200 0.200 1,000
05/17/03 14:03:05 0.200 0.200 0.200 10,000
05/17/03 14:00:12 0.200 0.200 0.200 300
05/17/03 13:58:43 0.200 0.200 0.200 4,000
05/17/03 13:56:54 0.200 0.200 0.200 8,000
05/17/03 13:56:15 0.200 0.200 0.200 6,000
05/17/03 13:53:22 0.200 0.190 0.190 1,200
05/17/03 13:51:34 0.200 0.200 0.200 7,700
05/17/03 13:48:13 0.190 0.190 0.190 900
05/17/03 13:46:04 0.200 0.200 0.200 500
05/17/03 13:41:59 0.200 0.200 0.200 1,000
05/17/03 13:40:40 0.190 0.190 0.190 9,500
05/17/03 13:35:53 0.200 0.200 0.200 1,500
05/17/03 13:32:56 0.200 0.200 0.200 5,000
05/17/03 13:32:26 0.200 0.200 0.200 4,700
05/17/03 13:30:50 0.210 0.200 0.200 8,000
05/17/03 13:27:57 0.210 0.210 0.210 500
05/17/03 13:25:36 0.210 0.210 0.210 500
05/17/03 13:22:47 0.210 0.200 0.210 5,000
05/17/03 13:21:33 0.210 0.200 0.200 26,500
05/17/03 13:20:22 0.200 0.200 0.200 3,000
05/17/03 13:15:42 0.210 0.210 0.210 6,000
05/17/03 13:12:54 0.210 0.210 0.210 1,000
05/17/03 13:11:20 0.200 0.200 0.200 1,000
05/17/03 13:09:32 0.210 0.210 0.210 500
05/17/03 13:07:25 0.210 0.210 0.210 10,000
05/17/03 13:06:07 0.210 0.210 0.210 7,000
05/17/03 13:04:41 0.210 0.210 0.210 1,000
05/17/03 13:03:39 0.210 0.210 0.210 10,000
05/17/03 13:02:33 0.210 0.200 0.210 7,000
05/17/03 13:01:05 0.200 0.200 0.200 9,200
05/17/03 12:58:32 0.200 0.200 0.200 5,000
05/17/03 12:58:06 0.200 0.200 0.200 15,000
05/17/03 12:55:56 0.200 0.190 0.190 9,700
05/17/03 12:51:04 0.200 0.200 0.200 10,000
05/17/03 12:48:45 0.190 0.190 0.190 20,000
05/17/03 12:47:31 0.200 0.200 0.200 10,000
05/17/03 12:35:45 0.200 0.200 0.200 5,900
05/17/03 12:34:44 0.200 0.200 0.200 34,000
05/17/03 12:34:01 0.200 0.200 0.200 9,600
05/17/03 12:32:22 0.210 0.200 0.210 2,600
05/17/03 12:28:43 0.210 0.210 0.210 200
05/17/03 12:27:48 0.200 0.200 0.200 5,000
05/17/03 12:24:26 0.210 0.200 0.210 12,000
05/17/03 12:23:27 0.200 0.200 0.200 66,600
05/17/03 12:22:05 0.200 0.200 0.200 10,000
05/17/03 12:18:28 0.190 0.190 0.190 1,200
05/17/03 12:16:29 0.200 0.200 0.200 800
05/17/03 12:14:00 0.200 0.190 0.200 11,300
05/17/03 12:12:09 0.190 0.190 0.190 300
05/17/03 12:10:18 0.190 0.190 0.190 9,600
05/17/03 12:09:42 0.200 0.200 0.200 1,800
05/17/03 12:07:57 0.200 0.190 0.200 3,700
05/17/03 12:05:58 0.190 0.190 0.190 2,500
05/17/03 12:01:27 0.190 0.190 0.190 2,700
05/17/03 12:00:43 0.200 0.200 0.200 4,000
05/17/03 11:57:23 0.200 0.200 0.200 7,000
05/17/03 11:54:23 0.200 0.200 0.200 6,900
05/17/03 11:52:08 0.200 0.200 0.200 18,500
05/17/03 11:50:08 0.200 0.200 0.200 22,000
05/17/03 11:48:48 0.200 0.200 0.200 5,100
05/17/03 11:47:34 0.200 0.190 0.200 19,800
05/17/03 11:42:50 0.210 0.200 0.210 2,500
05/17/03 11:41:07 0.200 0.200 0.200 7,000
05/17/03 11:39:02 0.210 0.200 0.210 4,200
05/17/03 11:37:02 0.210 0.200 0.210 7,000
05/17/03 11:31:56 0.200 0.200 0.200 4,800
05/17/03 11:31:10 0.200 0.200 0.200 2,700
05/17/03 11:28:00 0.200 0.200 0.200 7,700
05/17/03 11:26:04 0.200 0.200 0.200 23,400
05/17/03 11:20:24 0.200 0.200 0.200 26,000
05/17/03 11:18:49 0.200 0.200 0.200 3,000
05/17/03 11:17:42 0.200 0.200 0.200 9,300
05/17/03 11:15:07 0.200 0.200 0.200 25,000
05/17/03 11:14:32 0.200 0.200 0.200 50,000
05/17/03 11:12:57 0.200 0.200 0.200 10,000
05/17/03 11:11:41 0.200 0.200 0.200 3,000
05/17/03 11:09:48 0.210 0.200 0.210 22,000
05/17/03 11:08:44 0.210 0.210 0.210 8,500
05/17/03 11:06:39 0.210 0.210 0.210 500
05/17/03 11:05:02 0.200 0.200 0.200 8,100
05/17/03 11:03:19 0.210 0.210 0.210 1,000
05/17/03 11:02:06 0.200 0.200 0.200 2,500
05/17/03 11:00:36 0.210 0.210 0.210 2,000
05/17/03 10:59:40 0.210 0.210 0.210 14,000
05/17/03 10:57:05 0.210 0.210 0.210 12,900
05/17/03 10:55:28 0.200 0.200 0.200 20,000
05/17/03 10:55:09 0.200 0.200 0.200 33,100
05/17/03 10:50:41 0.200 0.200 0.200 20,000
05/17/03 10:48:31 0.190 0.190 0.190 11,000
05/17/03 10:47:40 0.200 0.200 0.200 6,000
05/17/03 10:44:33 0.200 0.200 0.200 100
05/17/03 10:43:12 0.200 0.200 0.200 12,000
05/17/03 10:40:10 0.200 0.200 0.200 40,500
05/17/03 10:38:27 0.200 0.200 0.200 22,100
05/17/03 10:37:13 0.200 0.180 0.200 17,800
05/17/03 10:33:48 0.190 0.190 0.190 600
05/17/03 10:32:00 0.190 0.190 0.190 7,000
05/17/03 10:31:04 0.190 0.190 0.190 12,500
05/17/03 10:29:15 0.200 0.180 0.200 45,400
05/17/03 10:26:39 0.180 0.180 0.180 300
05/17/03 10:24:49 0.190 0.180 0.180 20,600
05/17/03 10:23:27 0.190 0.160 0.190 38,000
05/17/03 10:21:49 0.190 0.190 0.190 10,000
05/17/03 10:20:37 0.190 0.160 0.190 29,000
05/17/03 10:18:41 0.190 0.160 0.170 34,200
05/17/03 10:17:43 0.190 0.160 0.170 52,800
05/17/03 10:14:22 0.180 0.160 0.180 38,800
05/17/03 10:12:56 0.200 0.160 0.160 144,000
05/17/03 10:11:36 0.210 0.160 0.160 25,000
05/17/03 10:10:09 0.200 0.190 0.200 21,100
05/17/03 10:08:46 0.200 0.160 0.200 89,800
05/17/03 10:07:02 0.200 0.200 0.200 28,000
05/17/03 10:05:18 0.210 0.160 0.160 40,900
05/17/03 10:04:12 0.220 0.200 0.210 67,900
05/17/03 10:02:46 0.230 0.180 0.220 48,300
05/17/03 10:01:15 0.220 0.210 0.220 13,800
05/17/03 09:59:03 0.210 0.210 0.210 67,800
05/17/03 09:58:15 0.220 0.210 0.210 52,700
05/17/03 09:56:27 0.220 0.220 0.220 23,000
05/17/03 09:55:09 0.230 0.220 0.220 44,300
05/17/03 09:53:45 0.230 0.210 0.230 57,700
05/17/03 09:52:02 0.230 0.220 0.220 55,800
05/17/03 09:50:44 0.230 0.220 0.230 59,900
05/17/03 09:49:15 0.210 0.200 0.210 105,500
05/17/03 09:47:40 0.200 0.190 0.200 85,800
05/17/03 09:46:09 0.190 0.190 0.190 71,000
05/17/03 09:44:42 0.190 0.190 0.190 31,400
05/17/03 09:42:50 0.190 0.190 0.190 87,000
05/17/03 09:40:57 0.190 0.180 0.190 12,600
05/17/03 09:40:16 0.180 0.160 0.180 18,100
05/17/03 09:38:00 0.190 0.170 0.180 79,400
05/17/03 09:37:01 0.210 0.170 0.180 270,900
05/17/03 09:35:37 0.210 0.210 0.210 5,000
05/17/03 09:31:36 0.200 0.200 0.200 1,000
05/17/03 09:02:10 0.230 0.230 0.230 8,000
05/17/03 08:59:50 0.190 0.190 0.190 1,000
05/17/03 08:59:36 0.240 0.230 0.230 5,300
05/17/03 08:55:40 0.240 0.240 0.240 6,000
05/17/03 08:45:30 0.240 0.240 0.240 2,500
05/17/03 08:18:32 0.250 0.250 0.250 3,500
05/17/03 08:17:30 0.240 0.240 0.240 2,500


Each line is the combination of trades for a 90 sec period

und jetzt fakten:

Willst Du aus den den Augen bluten:


ABLEAUCTIONS COM INC COM NEW

AMEX:   AAC  

z.Z.

das was wiklich brennt:  1000% oder .......NIX

bin mit EK 12 US Cent dabei.....

 SYMBOL: AAC NOTE: Stock data presented is 20 minutes delayed  
Ableauctions Common Incorporated Com New
Exchange: AMEX  
 

As of May 17, 11:33am ET
   
0.18 4:02pm
+0.03 +20.00%



OPEN HIGH LOW VOLUME
0.21 0.23 0.16 3,678,400



     HIGH LOW
0.58
(6/19/02) 0.04
(3/28/03)

28,726,000
0.15



Achtung!

das ist ein " ULTRA ZOCK "

Super Eng!!!

Nur


28,726,000 St. im Umlauf!!!!

Wer blöd ist kauft!

( ps...wer gurgelt schon gerne mit Rasierklingen???)

MfG

 Waldy


 

 SYMBOL:
AAC NOTE: Stock data presented is 20 minutes delayed  
Ableauctions Common Incorporated Com New
Exchange: AMEX  
 

As of May 19, 11:18am ET
   
0.23 10:57am
+0.05 +27.78%



OPEN HIGH LOW VOLUME
0.20 0.25 0.20

935,600



     HIGH LOW
0.58
(6/19/02)
0.04
(3/28/03)

28,726,000
0.18

Das Schmeckt!!!
Waldy

? Bin ich der einzige hier der Ableauctions Common Incorporated Com New
hält?
oder noch jemand dabei.......

SYMBOL: AAC NOTE: Stock data presented is 20 minutes delayed  
Ableauctions Common Incorporated Com New
Exchange: AMEX  
 

As of May 19, 12:50pm ET
   
0.30 12:29pm
+0.12 +66.67%



OPEN HIGH LOW   VOLUME
0.20  0.32 0.20 3,048,500



     HIGH LOW
0.58
(6/19/02) 0.04
(3/28/03)

28,726,000
0.18

da hat der dackel doch tatsächlich das
grosse Los gezogen!



Der Traum von jeden Zocker !

Waldy

05/21/03 11:53:00 0.230 0.230 0.230 24,800
05/21/03 11:50:40 0.230 0.230 0.230 4,000
05/21/03 11:44:39 0.230 0.230 0.230 20,000
05/21/03 11:40:40 0.230 0.230 0.230 5,300
05/21/03 11:37:35 0.240 0.240 0.240 6,000
05/21/03 11:32:17 0.230 0.230 0.230 3,200
05/21/03 11:29:23 0.240 0.240 0.240 2,000
05/21/03 11:25:01 0.230 0.230 0.230 57,200
05/21/03 11:20:35 0.240 0.240 0.240 46,500
05/21/03 11:15:57 0.250 0.250 0.250 2,800
05/21/03 11:13:11 0.250 0.250 0.250 13,800
05/21/03 11:10:22 0.250 0.250 0.250 6,500
05/21/03 11:07:50 0.250 0.240 0.250 1,500
05/21/03 11:01:13 0.240 0.240 0.240 2,000
05/21/03 10:52:54 0.250 0.240 0.240 9,700
05/21/03 10:49:33 0.250 0.250 0.250 800
05/21/03 10:48:36 0.250 0.250 0.250 1,000
05/21/03 10:47:18 0.250 0.250 0.250 34,300
05/21/03 10:46:12 0.250 0.240 0.250 40,000
05/21/03 10:42:51 0.250 0.230 0.240 6,200
05/21/03 10:41:01 0.230 0.230 0.230 4,500
05/21/03 10:40:14 0.230 0.230 0.230 24,400
05/21/03 10:38:25 0.230 0.220 0.230 3,400
05/21/03 10:34:43 0.230 0.230 0.230 400
05/21/03 10:27:54 0.220 0.220 0.220 30,000
05/21/03 10:21:19 0.220 0.220 0.220 8,000
05/21/03 10:20:12 0.220 0.220 0.220 58,900
05/21/03 10:18:14 0.220 0.210 0.220 10,300
05/21/03 10:17:44 0.220 0.210 0.220 26,900
05/21/03 10:09:02 0.220 0.220 0.220 24,000
05/21/03 10:07:43 0.210 0.200 0.200 65,500
05/21/03 10:06:06 0.210 0.210 0.210 4,000
05/21/03 10:04:40 0.210 0.210 0.210 18,000
05/21/03 10:04:03 0.200 0.190 0.200 9,000
05/21/03 10:02:23 0.200 0.200 0.200 2,900
05/21/03 09:59:25 0.190 0.190 0.190 2,900
05/21/03 09:57:17 0.190 0.190 0.190 6,700
05/21/03 09:56:35 0.200 0.200 0.200 41,000
05/21/03 09:51:08 0.210 0.200 0.200 39,800
05/21/03 09:50:46 0.210 0.210 0.210 62,400
05/21/03 09:48:47 0.200 0.190 0.200 10,900
05/21/03 09:47:12 0.200 0.190 0.200 4,500
05/21/03 09:43:32 0.190 0.190 0.190 900
05/21/03 09:42:46 0.190 0.190 0.190 1,800
05/21/03 09:41:42 0.210 0.200 0.200 49,800
05/21/03 09:40:17 0.210 0.200 0.200 55,500
05/21/03 09:38:06 0.210 0.210 0.210 5,000
05/21/03 09:35:56 0.210 0.210 0.210 500


Each line is the combination of trades for a 90 sec period
15-20 min Quote Delay

Ableauctions Common Incorporated Com New
Exchange: AMEX  
 

As of May 27, 1:52pm ET
   
0.21 1:21pm
+0.03 +16.67%



OPEN HIGH LOW VOLUME
0.18 0.24 0.18 1,455,400



     HIGH LOW
0.58
(6/19/02) 0.04
(3/28/03)

28,726,000
0.18


&


Schmoeker  
 
Du frisst sicherlich auch gelben
Schnee, und wunderst Dich das er nicht
nach Zitrone schmeckt.
und der braune nicht nach Schokolade......

Ps.
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