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PeterPan84:

@ Neversurrender

5
05.10.11 21:33
Jetzt wird es in der tat spannend.

Mal schauen wie Herr Sleet zu der Sache steht.

Wirkt allerdings auch wie eine verzweiflungszug von Rosen und CO.

Ich weiß nicht was ich davon halten soll!
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4Blatt:

You guys ever heard of the Brophy Rule?

33
05.10.11 21:54
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You guys ever heard of the Brophy Rule? Check this out.

www.delawarebusinesslitigation.com/2011/06/...-trading-remedy/

Quote:It seem as in the last June a decision was made on the High Court on the IT Issue.Interesting to see that they give not so much field to play for those issues.

One of the more important fiduciary duties in Delaware corporate law is not to trade on insider information. A complaint alleging that you did is known as a Brophy claim for the decision that announced it over 60 years ago. Recently, Brophy was thought to have been watered down by a requirement that the company actually suffer harm from the trading involved. That would occur, for example, if the company is in the market to buy back its own stock in competition with the insider.

Well, the Supreme Court announced in this decision that it will not permit any chipping away at the Brophy rule. It is not necessary to show harm to bring such a claim. Rather, preserving the sanctity of fiduciary duties under Delaware law warrants permitting recovery of any profits made by the disloyal fiduciary, even if not at the company's expense.

So the Company can just SHTF up if it come to that matter and have to accept the rule.Walrath mustbe cornered in this issue.And if you add here above the Stern Ruling and ANICO back ontrack it gives all the signs of a perfet storm heading toward the Desk of Walrath and De BK Building.The best way to deal with it is to push it away to another court and that have to be before the Three years come to play.We all know why.



Quote:Here's some more info on this ruling. From this it does not look so good for the SNHs. Looks like the higher courts take a very hard view on the IT issues.

evanwilliford.wordpress.com/category/fiduciary-duties/brophy-insi­der-trading-claim/

The Delaware Supreme Court recently reversed the Court of Chancery to rule that a claim for insider trading based upon Delaware state fiduciary duty law, a so-called “Brophy” claim after the leading (Court of Chancery) case in that line, {{does not require proof of harm to the company}}. Rather, {{the defendant can be required to disgorge profits previously received even where the company arguably was not harmed monetarily.}}} The Court in doing so also reaffirmed the vitality of the Brophy claim alongside federal law also dealing with insider trading claims.
   
   
   
The Court cited the well-known principle that “Delaware law dictates that the scope of recovery for a breach of the duty of loyalty is not to be determined narrowly.” It also cited the venerable Guth v. Loft case for its statement that the rule that a fiduciary must return profits gained in breach of his or her duty does not rest upon narrow grounds of injury to the corporation “but upon a broader foundation of a wise public policy that, for the purpose of removing all temptation, extinguishes all possibility of profit flowing from a breach of the confidence imposed by the fiduciary relation.”
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4Blatt:

auf pacer

15
05.10.11 22:34
10/05/2011 8737 Response of the Official Committee of Equity Security Holders to Statement of Debtors with Respect to (A) Scope and Participation in Mediation and (B) Confirmation of Modified Plan (related document(s) 8708 ) Filed by Official Committee of Equity Holders (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit A) (Taylor, Gregory) (Entered: 10/05/2011)


10/05/2011 8739 Response to Statement of Debtors with Respect to (A) Scope and Participation in Mediation; and (B) Confirmation of Modified Plan Filed by Trust Preferred Holders (related document(s) 8613 , 8612 , 8708 ). (Attachments: # 1 Certificate of Service # 2 Service List) (Conaway, Bernard) (Entered: 10/05/2011)
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4Blatt:

und hier spricht das ec und tps...!

33
05.10.11 22:46
Response of the Official Committee of Equity Security Holders to Statement of Debtors with Respect to (A) Scope and Participation in Mediation and (B) Confirmation of Modified Plan
www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229111005000000000010.pdf

Notice of Rejection of Executory Contract
www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229111005000000000009.pdf

Response to Statement of Debtors with Respect to (A) Scope and Participation in Mediation; and (B) Confirmation of Modified Plan
www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229111005000000000011.pdf
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4Blatt:

einige auszüge aus dem ec doc

18
05.10.11 23:01
10. There are also potential benefits to the estate from some delay, which are
ignored by the Debtors. The billions in assets now held by the estate are earning interest,
presumably, in an amount that should offset at least some of the interest expense. More
significantly, postponing emergence until after January 1st will increase the size of the usable tax
NOL held by the reorganized debtor by several billion dollars. Indeed, the increase in value of
this NOL between a confirmation and emergence in December and one in January is so
significant that at this point confirmation should be postponed until the new year regardless of
any mediation.

14. If the Debtors intend that the Equity Committee will control the ongoing
Settlement Note Holder litigation, the plan must be modified accordingly. 3 And provisions must
be made for funding the case and determining settlement authority. None of these issues are
addressed in the Debtors’ proposal. Of course, the Debtors could have raised and discussed such
issues with the Equity Committee before filing their Statement yesterday. As has been typical of
the Debtors’ high-handed and hostile treatment of equity, they made no effort to do so.

15. Additionally, because the claims of the Settlement Note Holders are
disputed a substantial reserve for those claims must be established. (Plan at §27.3). Presumably
the parties will differ significantly on the appropriate amount of the reserve, the amount of
discovery that ought to be had in connection therewith, and potentially even on whether a reserve
is necessary. Further, although the Plan authorizes the Liquidating Trustee to seek estimation of

Disputed Claims (Plan § 27.2), Mr. Kosturos is not the proper individual to pursue estimation of
the Settlement Note Holders’ claims for the same reasons that he should not have prosecution
and settlement authority over those same claims.

CONCLUSION
The Equity Committee respectfully requests the Court to take the foregoing into
consideration at the status conference on October 6, 2011 and direct the parties to schedule a
mediation to be completed before November 30, 2011 addressing all unresolved issues related to
the plan of reorganization in this case, and that parties required to participate in the mediation
include at least the Debtors, the Equity Committee, the Creditors Committee, each of the
Settlement Note Holders, holders of TPS securities who participated in the adversary proceeding,
holders of litigation tracking warrants, the indenture trustees for WMI securities, JPMorgan
Chase and the FDIC. The Equity Committee also respectfully requests that the Court defer
consideration of any further revised plan pending the outcome of the mediation.
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4Blatt:

auszüge aus dem tps doc

13
05.10.11 23:05
9."The Debtors rely on an overstated burn rate to justify skipping mediation of
the entire plan. The $30 million per month figure cited by the Debtors is apparently derived
from the accrual of post-petition claims at the contract rate. At the federal judgment rate, the
interest accrued monthly is only approximately $11.4 million. Fees and expenses will be
incurred in some amount in addition to this, but those fees would undoubtedly be much greater if
teams of lawyers must gear-up for another contested confirmation hearing than they would for
mediation."

13. It is not clear under the plan where the claim would reside or who would
control the litigation. The Liquidating Trust to be established will hold claims of the estates not
otherwise released under the plan. There is no carve-out in this provision for the litigation
against the Settlement Note Holders. Read literally, this would seem to include the Equity
Committee’s claims against the Settlement Note Holders. The Debtors’ expect that Mr. Kosturos
will be the Liquidating Trustee of the Liquidating Trust (see Statement, Exhibit D at §§1.4, 6.1),
and Mr. Kosturos is the representative of the estates who opposed the Equity Committee’s motion
to obtain standing to pursue these claims and who personally participated in many of the
communications that gave rise to the claims. Mr. Kosturos would then be vested with the
authority to settle the very claims against the Settlement Note Holders these estates objected to
being brought in the first instance. As the Liquidating Trust Agreement is now drafted, he would
have authority to settle such claims without seeking this Court’s approval.

CONCLUSION

Wherefore, the TPS Consortium respectfully requests that the Court (i) direct the Debtors
to participate in good faith mediation with the TPS Consortium and other parties in interest
regarding issues to be delineated by the Court at the October 6, 2011 status conference; (ii)
decline to set a new confirmation hearing date until such mediation has been conducted; (iii)
reserve any ruling on the need for resolicitation until after the mediation and parties in interest
have had an adequate opportunity to respond; (iv) Order the Debtors to comply with the
solicitation procedures and release WMI securities being held in “voting” accounts; and (v) grant
any other relief that the Court deems just and proper.
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hardy14:

4blatt

9
05.10.11 23:10
The Equity Committee also respectfully requests that the Court defer
consideration of any further revised plan pending the outcome of the mediation.

respectfully......diese Schreibweise...wahnsinn....
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4Blatt:

weiteres aus dem ec doc und dem tps doc

14
05.10.11 23:11
ec:

16. [...] With respect to the Reorganized Common Stock, the
Liquidating Trustee is given voting and consent rights. The Liquidating Trustee, Mr. Kosturos,
has throughout these cases directed the Debtors to argue that the NOLs, which will be held by
the Reorganized Debtor, have little, if any, value and even sought to have the Debtors emerge in
late December 2010 thereby abandoning significantly all of the potentially usable portion of the
NOLs. Mr. Kosturos’ demonstrated animosity toward maximizing the value of the NOLs
renders him unsuitable to exercise the rights attendant to the Reorganized Common Stock while
those assets are held in reserve. And aside from that clearly unacceptable mechanism, there is no
other means by which to preserve the value of the NOLs, which equity holders believe can be
exploited but that the creditors have insisted they will disregard.

18. [...] As discussed above, the
Liquidation Trust and Mr. Kosturos simply cannot have any prosecution or settlement control
with respect to the claims asserted by the Equity Committee against the Settlement Note Holders.
Similarly, Mr. Kosturos should not have any authority with respect to the estates’ potential
claims and causes of action against the Debtors’ former Officers and Directors – the same claims
that the Debtors have ignored for over two years and then attempted to sweep under the rug by
entering into tolling agreements in the middle of the July confirmation hearing. The Debtors
conduct to date amply demonstrates a willingness to sacrifice estate value to further the interests
of management and board members and thus the Debtors’ current representatives, including Mr.

Kosturos, cannot be relied upon to pursue these claims for the benefit of the Debtors creditors
and equity holders.

20. [...] Thus, the constituency most
motivated to maximize the value of those assets is not the creditors, the majority of whom stand
to be paid in full on or shortly following the Effective Date, but is the Debtors’ equity holders.
Accordingly, equity should choose a controlling majority the members of the Trust Advisory
Board, not the creditors, as the Plan currently provides. Furthermore, the Liquidating Trustee
should be chosen by the Trust Advisory Board, not by the Debtors’ management (Mr. Kosturos)
who, not surprisingly, has chosen himself.

tps:

9."The Debtors rely on an overstated burn rate to justify skipping mediation of
the entire plan. The $30 million per month figure cited by the Debtors is apparently derived
from the accrual of post-petition claims at the contract rate. At the federal judgment rate, the
interest accrued monthly is only approximately $11.4 million. Fees and expenses will be
incurred in some amount in addition to this, but those fees would undoubtedly be much greater if
teams of lawyers must gear-up for another contested confirmation hearing than they would for
mediation."

13. It is not clear under the plan where the claim would reside or who would
control the litigation. The Liquidating Trust to be established will hold claims of the estates not
otherwise released under the plan. There is no carve-out in this provision for the litigation
against the Settlement Note Holders. Read literally, this would seem to include the Equity
Committee’s claims against the Settlement Note Holders. The Debtors’ expect that Mr. Kosturos
will be the Liquidating Trustee of the Liquidating Trust (see Statement, Exhibit D at §§1.4, 6.1),
and Mr. Kosturos is the representative of the estates who opposed the Equity Committee’s motion
to obtain standing to pursue these claims and who personally participated in many of the
communications that gave rise to the claims. Mr. Kosturos would then be vested with the
authority to settle the very claims against the Settlement Note Holders these estates objected to
being brought in the first instance. As the Liquidating Trust Agreement is now drafted, he would
have authority to settle such claims without seeking this Court’s approval.

CONCLUSION
Wherefore, the TPS Consortium respectfully requests that the Court (i) direct the Debtors
to participate in good faith mediation with the TPS Consortium and other parties in interest
regarding issues to be delineated by the Court at the October 6, 2011 status conference; (ii)
decline to set a new confirmation hearing date until such mediation has been conducted; (iii)
reserve any ruling on the need for resolicitation until after the mediation and parties in interest
have had an adequate opportunity to respond; (iv) Order the Debtors to comply with the
solicitation procedures and release WMI securities being held in “voting” accounts; and (v) grant
any other relief that the Court deems just and proper.
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4Blatt:

hmm

8
05.10.11 23:16
irgendwie hängt ariva kann sein das nun was doppelt kommt meiner einer bittet im voraus schonmal um entschuldigung.
ich laß es gleich morgen früh löschen und gesell mich nun zu meiner schlafenden frau.

mfg
4blatt
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hardy14:

4blatt - war bei mir auch so

7
05.10.11 23:28
entschuldigung hast du nicht nötig - danke für deine info's
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odin10de:

Neues Doc 8740

6
05.10.11 23:41
8740   Notice of Second Amended Agenda of Matters Scheduled for Hearing on October 6, 2011 at 9:00 a.m. (EDT)

www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229111005000000000012.pdf
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BMG1900:

New Court Doc

3
05.10.11 23:41
8740; Notice of Second Amended Agenda of Matters Scheduled for Hearing on October 6, 2011 at 9:00 a.m. (EDT)

www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229111005000000000012.pdf
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SCHNAPSI:

Mal jetzt eine vieleicht sehr dumme Frage !

 
05.10.11 23:41
Warum wurde eigentlich ab ca. 17 Uhr die Aktie nicht mehr gehandelt weder in Deutschland noch in den USA ?
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Goldesel2010:

genau, danke 4blatt

 
05.10.11 23:43
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odin10de:

Neues Doc #8740

2
05.10.11 23:47
8740   Notice of Second Amended Agenda of Matters Scheduled for Hearing on October 6, 2011 at 9:00 a.m. (EDT)

www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229111005000000000012.pdf
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paketix:

@schnapsi

 
05.10.11 23:50
da musst du dich verkuckt haben - war handel in USofB
...wenn auch kein 'reger' aber immerhin gegen schluss noch etwas umsatz ;)
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ixam:

orf -bericht etwas ot aber interessant

10
05.10.11 23:52
Tausende Wall-Street-Kritiker gehen auf die Straße Tausende Demonstranten haben in New York gegen die Macht der Banken und die wachsende Ungleichheit in den USA protestiert. Begleitet von einem großen Polizeiaufgebot zog der Marsch gestern durch den Finanzdistrikt in Manhattan. Einzelne Polizisten schätzten die Menge auf 5.000 bis 7.000 Menschen, offizielle Schätzungen gab es zunächst noch nicht.

Die Demonstranten trugen Plakate mit Aufschriften wie „Rettet unsere Republik“ und „Gleichheit, Demokratie, Revolution“. Die zumeist jungen Protestteilnehmer skandierten „wir sind 99 Prozent“ und spielten damit auf das reichste Prozent der US-Bevölkerung an, von dem sie sich hintergangen fühlen.

Die Protestbewegung hatte in den vergangenen Tagen immer mehr Zulauf erhalten, nachdem Mitte September erste Aktivisten im Zuccotti Park unweit der Wall Street ein Protestcamp aufgeschlagen hatten. Mittlerweile hat die Bewegung die Rückendeckung von führenden Gewerkschaften, etwa dem Dachverband AFL-CIO, der Automobilgewerkschaft UAW und der Transportarbeitergewerkschaft TWU. Auch in Los Angeles, Boston, Chicago und anderen Städten haben sich kleine Ableger der Wall-Street-Kritiker formiert

gute nacht and stay long
ixam
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BMG1900:

WaMu Seeks to Limit Mediation, Avoid New Creditor

6
05.10.11 23:52
Vote on Bankruptcy Plan

Washington Mutual Inc. (WAMUQ), former owner of the biggest U.S. bank to fail, will try to limit the scope of court-ordered mediation by changing its reorganization plan to appease a bankruptcy judge.

The proposed changes would help speed WaMu’s exit from Chapter 11 by avoiding a new vote of creditors, according to a filing in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Wilmington, Delaware. Mediation should focus only on allegations of insider trading that shareholders made against four hedge funds, WaMu said.

“There is absolutely no reason confirmation should be hijacked,” WaMu said in its filing. Waiting for a broad range of issues to be resolved in mediation would take about six months and cost about $180 million, WaMu said.

Last month, U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Mary Walrath for a second time rejected WaMu’s plan to pay creditors more than $7 billion. Some WaMu noteholders, including the hedge funds, would get a higher interest rate than is legally permitted, she said.

Walrath also allowed shareholders, including those who would get nothing under the plan, to try to prove allegations of insider trading. She ordered the groups into mediation, saying they should try to settle any disputes that may prevent WaMu from ending its bankruptcy.

WaMu Changes
WaMu argued in its filing that issues other than the insider-trading claims don’t need to mediated because the company has agreed to change the interest rate some creditors will receive and to adjust other parts of the plan Walrath criticized in her Sept. 14 opinion.

The Seattle-based company didn’t say when it would seek to end its three-year-old bankruptcy. The proposed changes use an Oct. 31 exit date for the purposes of estimating creditor recoveries.

WaMu filed for bankruptcy on Sept. 26, 2008, the day after its banking unit was taken over by regulators and sold to JPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM) for $1.9 billion. Washington Mutual Bank had more than 2,200 branches and $188 billion in deposits.

The case is In re Washington Mutual Inc., 08-12229, U.S. Bankruptcy Court, District of Delaware (Wilmington).

To contact the reporters on this story: Steven Church in Wilmington, Delaware, at schurch3@bloomberg.net; Michael Bathon in Wilmington, Delaware, at mbathon@bloomberg.net.

To contact the editor responsible for this story: John Pickering at jpickering@bloomberg.net

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BMG1900:

Mediation May Be Key to Impasse in WaMu Bankruptcy

3
06.10.11 00:02
Washington Mutual will meet next Tuesday with the judge who has twice rejected its Chapter 11 bankruptcy plan to discuss the scope of a mediation that could break the impasse that has held up payment in the $7 billion case.

www.americanbanker.com/syndication/...mediation-1042425-1.html
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sauerland1502:

Wahrscheinlich wegen der Bombendrohung in FF?

 
06.10.11 00:02
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Staylongstayc.:

Es liegt mal wieder an Walrath...

31
06.10.11 00:12

Guten Abend,

ich muss mich mal wieder zu Wort melden, nachdem ich mir die jüngste Motion des "Creditors"-Committees sowie die Antworten der TSP-Jungs und des EC auf das Statement von Rosen angeschaut habe. Während Erstere ebenso wie Rosen und die SNH's deutlich auf Konfrontations-Kurs zu Walrath gehen, schlagen die TPS-Jungs erstaunlich sanfte Töne an. Dagegen argumentiert das EC eigentlich wie immer relativ sachlich. Ich bin mir sicher, dass das EC wirklich ein Settlement durch die Mediation erreichen will, und den TPS-Leuten bleibt im Grunde genommen - bis auf ihren laufenden Appeal - auch nicht mehr viel anderes übrig. Bei den anderen Parteien bin ich mir nicht sicher, ob es Säbelrasseln für eine bessere Position in der Mediation, oder aber echter Unwille im Hinblick auf ein etwaiges Settlement ist. Dabei erscheint mir die o.g. Motion der Creditors nicht von schlechten Eltern zu sein. Bin mal gespannt, ob wir vor dem morgigen Hearing noch eine Replik des EC zu sehen bekommen. Im Grunde genommen sprechen unsere Gegner Walrath beinahe jegliche Kompetenz ab und unterstellen ihr gravierende Fehler bzw. rechtliche Fehleinschätzungen. TPS und EC halten sich dagegen in ihren Statements exakt an den Wortlaut der Order von Walrath. Nun liegt es an ihr, und ich könnte mir vorstellen, dass sie wegen der teilweise schon fast unverschämten Statements der gegnerischen Parteien morgen nicht gerade "amused" sein wird. Und ich kann mir kaum vorstellen, dass sie den Plan ohne eine erneute Abstimmung - natürlich nur, falls es in der Mediation keine Einigung geben sollte - absegnen wird. Einem "Dual-Track", wie es die anderen Parteien vorschlagen, wird sie wohl kaum zustimmen, denn dann hätte sie ihr Gesicht vollends verloren. Ich denke (und hoffe), dass sie dieser unverschämten Anwaltsbande morgen einmal gehörig in den Ar... tritt und eine Mediation mit allen Parteien anordnet. Frau Walrath, it's your turn... ;-) Alles wie immer IMHO.

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potzblitzzz:

Die Eingabe vom EC klingt aggressiv

26
06.10.11 00:31
Hauptaugenmerk ist Kosturos, der sich nach dem Debtors Plan selbst zum Liquidation Trustee Obermacker ernennt und somit den Vorzugsaktionären in die Quere kommt, die sich durch die NOLs, die Kosturos zuvor als wertlos / geringwertig / kaum nutzbar bewertete, und dem geringen Defizit der übergeordneten PIERS eine Recovery versprechen. Sie bemängeln seine Person direkt, auch weil nur der Liquidation Trustee eine wirkliche Valuation vornehmen wird, und sie sich durch sein Verhalten in der Vergangenheit (u.a. eben auch beim Insidertrading-Problem) benachteiligt sehen.

Weiterhin sei eine direkte, parallele Fortführung des Plans während der Mediation Estate-schädigend, weil so Fakten geschaffen werden sollen, die später mühsam nachgearbeitet werden müssen (Verantwortlichkeiten, Entscheidungsbefugnisse, Budget, Schlichtungsrecht, usw). Darüber verliere der Debtor kein Wort in seiner Eingabe.

Das klingt alles sehr gut, was das EC schreibt. Leider kann ich daraus nicht erkennen, dass sie daran glauben, dass die Commons noch im Spiel sind.
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Intuition1980:

Lasst es uns tun...

26
06.10.11 00:40
Lasst uns zusammen etwas auf die Beine stellen, man sieht Rosen kämpft mit allen Mitteln noch 2011 aus dem CH11 rauszukommen u uns Aktionäre wertlos ausbuchen zu lassen. Umsonst kommt nicht so eine Reaktion von unserem EC u den TPS´lern!!!
www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229111005000000000010.pdf

Schon allein im Januar 2012 wäre der Wert der nutzbaren Nols am höchsten. Wir müssen hier unser EC unterstützen, es geht darum hier Rosen anzugehen im endlich einmal aufzuzeigen das wir es leid sind immer nur als sein Fussabstreifer herhalten zu müssen. Und wenn es nur Presse aufschnappt u wir dadurch in die Öffentlichkeit tretten dann haben wir unserem EC schon einen Bärendienst geleistet!
Wer nicht wagt der kann nicht gewinnen u bisher haben wir immer gehofft das Rosen einknickt o klein bei gibt-dem ist nicht so! Also sollten wir im zeigen was er drei Jahre versäumt hat oder besser gesagt wem er drei Jahre ignoriert hat...

Ich hoffe auf United nur gemeinsam können wir was erreichen!

Euer Intuition
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BMG1900:

An @all und Union, WaMu wurde am 25.08.08

10
06.10.11 00:42
durch FDIC beschlagnahmt und am 26.08.08 an JPM verscherberlt, ist doch richtig.
Laut der folgenden Liste hatte JPM  WaMu am 25.08.08 übernommen!!!!!!!!!!!!
"List of bank failures in 2008"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._United_States_(2008%E2%80%93present)
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