VG Gold ( ISIN: CA9182161021 )

hat ja nichts mit PP, Finanzierung, Insider oder so zu tun.
Beim Einstieg von Fonds habe ich auch noch keine Meldung von Unternehmensseite gelesen.

das ist unüblich, auch in D wird z.b. Daimler nicht jedem Aktionär
eine Benachrichtigung zukommen lassen, weil ein Fond ein Pos redu/ aufgelöst hat

Aber es muss publiziert werden

Fonds sind keine Insider und es muss nur veröffentlicht werden wenn man mehr als 3% aller ausstehenden Aktien eines Unternehmens besitzt. ERst ab diesem Prozentsatz müssen käufe bzw. verkäufe veröffentlicht werden

von 86.616.014 Aktien.

 

Blackout in London

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Die Londoner Börse musste am Montag aus technischen Gründen den Handel aussetzen. Händler waren knapp sechs Stunden ohne Kurse, Aktientransaktionen waren nicht möglich. Als Grund für die Panne wird das stark gestiegene Handelsvolumen nach der Ankündigung der US-Regierung, die krisengeschüttelten Hypothekenfinanzierer Fannie Mae und Freddie Mac zu verstaatlichen, angegeben. Die Börsen liegen europaweit deutlich im Plus

http://www.wallstreet-online.de/nachrichten/nachricht/2528935.html

Verluste werden verstaatlicht, Gewinne privatisiert. ;-(

 

 

Leider hat sich der Staat noch nicht darum bemüht, meine Verluste zu übernehmen (im Gegenteil!)

das mich tom nicht persönlich anruft, war mir fast klar!

ich meinte die pflicht zur veröffentlichung, beim verkauf einer nicht unerheblichen % am unternehmen, in form einer ad hoc mitteilung

Wohl zu frueh gefreut. Die Maerkte spielen im Moment das Erholungsszenario, deshalb auch Absturz von Silber heute wieder (unter Mithilfe des PPT ab 14 Uhr). Auch Gold wieder im Minus, bei starkem Plus am Aktienmarkt. Das wird alles in sich zusammenfallen, wenn die erste Euphorie vorbei ist. Aktien werden wieder fallen und Gold/Silber steigen.

Ich komme immer noch nicht ueber Deine verquere Logik hinweg. Wenn Du meinst, die Krise sei vorbei, dann musst Du Banken, Immo, Luxusgueter... alles AUSSER G/S kaufen. Ich bin ja freilich nicht dieser Meinung, deshalb long G/S und keine normalen Aktien.

Heute wurde der Kapitalismus (jedenfalls fuer lange Zeit) begraben. Ein trauriger Tag fuer die freie Welt. Sozialismus, here we come.

Ja ich meine die Krise ist vorbei. Kein Kartenhaus was in sich zusammenfällt...

Aber ich weiß ja, ich bin ja so ziemlich alleine hier mit meiner Auffassung...

:)

Es sind schon einige Karten gefallen. Bear Stearns, heute F&F, andere werden folgen.  

Nachdem jetzt mittlerweile immerhin 165.000 Stücke in CAN über den Tisch gegangen sind steht das Bid bei 4 cent und das Ask bei 10 cent.
Langsam wird mir übel.
Ob Tom seine ganzen Stücke auf einmal verkauft hat?

Was geht denn hier für ne Scheisse ab ???

will man Panik auslösen, ich denke ja

5 mio shares eines Fonds? wohl kaum so oder ein Mitarbeiter intern? das wäre allerdings schlecht

kann man bei canadian insider verfolgen

consors werden 4600 st. zu 0,073€ angeboten, wenn ich verkaufen will 0,05€!

bis jetzt 230k, habe leider kein RT.
Evt. sind´s die shares vom Fonds, über drei Ecken vielleicht.
Keine Ahnung. Ich lass mich da nicht verunsichern.
Bin ja VG verrückt ;-)

quickcharts.hmja.de/

bist du live dabei, wie deine kohle den bach runter geht!

der intern zu QUASI fantapreisen verschiebt an die ausgebende Bank oder andere
Investoren , welche die Hand aufhalten....

mit Wert hat das nichts zu tuen

Consors ua... wie Tradegate..handeln immer mit Sicherheitsaufschlag
nach oben und unten...die wollen ja GELD verdienen, ob Daimler oder VG

sind keine "fatasiepreise", sondern der preis, zu dem VG zur zeit gehandelt wird!

ging ja pünktlich nach Börsenschluss in Deutschland los ;-)
Ich vermute auch mal: von linker Tasche in rechte Tasche auf unterstem Niveau.

Das Bid kommt ja wieder "etwas" hoch. Es scheint also jemand aufzusaugen.

frage ist nur, warum steigen die aus? bestimmt nicht, weil im oktober gute nachrichten kommen......

aber diese Preise in den "ausserbörslichen" Tools beziehen sich nur auf die Heimatbörse,
in der nach 20 Uhr noch Geschäfte stattfinden,

1. Käufer sind da
2. sehr viel Anonym
3. keine Bad NEWS
4. Steve hat ja den Fond gefunden, der verkauft hat (warum?) an wen ?
5. keine Veränderung im Goldpreis, heute hat sich nach welcher Sichtweise, die Lage
   wieder aufgehellt und die Finanzierung steht, (((ist das nun vielleicht ein Vorschuss, für
  den Finanzierer?)

Theorien ....nach 20 UHR !! das sollte zu denken geben

es gibt ja die "Behauptung" Tom, das instis ala Fonds kleine Pos auflösen,
das  sie Ihre eigenen Verbindlichkeiten bedienen müssen

10 CENT gehandelt 100.000de
nun wieder BID/ASK drüber....
11.5 12.00
?

*aber diese Preise in den "ausserbörslichen" Tools beziehen sich nur auf die Heimatbörse,
in der nach 20 Uhr noch Geschäfte stattfinden*  

na auf welche Preise sollen sie sich sonst beziehen! wir reden heute aneinander vorbei-:)

vielleicht kommen nachbörslich noch schlechte nachrichten!?

If you are thinking that the worst is over or are starting to buy into the mainstream media hoax that all is well... THINK AGAIN!

The sub prime crisis here in the U.S. is just about to get a whole lot worse!

Home prices are in an unprecedented, accelerating freefall. In March, home prices fell an average of 14.4% year-on-year in 20 major metropolitan areas. Americans have lost an average 12.0% in the value of their homes in the past six months alone, and 22.6% at an annualized rate!

In the six months since March, housing prices in the United States fell at an annualized rate of more than 30% in San Diego, Miami, Las Vegas, Phoenix, Los Angeles, and San Francisco. And delinquencies and foreclosures are soaring!

The new data that's coming out keeps getting worse with each quarter by a wide margin.

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But Forget the Sub Prime Mortgage Crisis... Watch Out For the Prime Mortgage Crisis

At J.P. Morgan Chase (NYSE: JPM), 3.5% of the bank's prime mortgages, (not subprime) were 30 days or more delinquent in the first quarter. These prime mortgage delinquencies are up 40% since December and more than 200% year-on-year.

Nearly 3,000,000 homeowners were behind on their mortgages at the end of 2007, and 1 to 2 million are at risk of foreclosure in 2008.

The data for 2009 is looking even worse... much worse.

8.8 million homeowners were underwater on their mortgages (balances equal to or greater than the value of their homes) at the end of March 2008.

70% of mortgage loans created after 2005 are underwater in this manner.

In Las Vegas alone, half of all homes sold in recent months had been in foreclosure.

The vacancy rate in American homes and condos rose to 2.9% in the first quarter of 2008, its highest level since the government began tracking this statistic. Even more alarming is the fact more than 10% of all homes built this decade (April 2000 to present) are vacant today!

Sales of existing homes are falling, which is leading to a surge in inventories while the proportion of Americans planning to buy a house is at a 33-year low.

These are not good signs for the American homeowner. And they're even worse for the banks holding vacant properties, which becomes a nightmare because of vandalism, theft of appliances, maintenance issues, pipes freezing, etc, etc.

So what about the future?

The Prime Morgage Crisis: ARM Resets and The Future of Prime Lending

Well, up until this point we have only seen the affects of the defaulting subprime and Alt-A loans, which have been responsible for the mortgage crisis and credit crunch. But this only represents the tip of the iceberg.

The next leg down is going to be driven by defaulting prime loans, primarily option ARMs, home equity lines of credit, and second mortgages.

For those not familiar with an option ARM, it's an adjustable-rate mortgage loan that provides the borrower with the option each month to make a fully-amortizing, interest only, or minimum payment. The minimum payment, however, is typically insufficient to cover the interest accrued in the prior month and any unpaid interest is deferred and added to the principle balance of the loan. Roughly $440 billion of adjustable rate mortgages are about to reset. Loans with teaser rates were never supposed to reset.

Based on history, both lenders and borrowers assumed that home prices would keep rising and easy credit would keep flowing, allowing borrowers to refinance before they reset. But now the mortgage market has frozen up and very few borrowers can refinance, which is leading to a greater surge in defaults, even before the interest rate resets!

Option ARM resets don't surge until 2010-2011!

As you can imagine, these kinds of loans are going to be in major trouble.

Borrowers who make the minimum payment on a regular basis can see their loan balances grow and their monthly payment more than double when they begin making payments of principle and full interest. This typically happens after five years, but can occur earlier if the amount owed reaches a predetermined level, usually 110% to 125% of the original loan balance.

Many of these option ARMs are in the housing bubble states of California, Nevada, Florida, Arizona, and Hawaii. My sense is that many of these option ARM borrowers are actually in a worse position than subprime borrowers.

This upcoming nightmare is looming in our not to distant future. It is the next tsunami to hit the housing market. This will hit the much higher priced homes as this was the product of choice used by higher income households to buy that dream home.

The worst loans are those with two-year teaser rates. They are defaulting at unprecedented rates, especially once the interest rates reset.

When you consider that it takes an average of 15 months from the date of the first missed payment by a homeowner to a liquidation (generally a sale via auction) the data clearly shows we are about to be hit with a much larger wave of this activity.

There are sobering implications for expected defaults, foreclosures and auctions towards the end of 2008, and into 2009, which promise to drive home prices down dramatically. How low they go is anybody's guess, but based on what I am seeing, we are not even close to a bottom at this point.

In many areas that were overbuilt it will probably get to the ridiculous level where you can buy a beautiful new home for pennies on the dollar from today's prices. So if you're in the market, the buy opportunity of a lifetime is coming in the next year to year and half.

Based on what we now know about the mortgage market, it looks like things could get so bad that a large scale federal government intervention is likely. This is on top of the Fannie Mae (NYSE: FNM) and Freddie Mac (NYSE: FRE) situation which congress is already wrestling with.

The tsunami gets worse when you consider that the financial firms on Wall Street and elsewhere have leveraged themselves in a massive way with derivatives to these mortgages, which many including myself have been talking about for the past several years.

The derivative time bomb that is rippling through Wall Street is absolutely frightening. We are about to see the next list of affected companies which could include the likes of Lehman Brothers (NYSE: LEH), Merrill Lynch (NYSE: MER), Bank of America (NYSE: BAC), and many more.

What we have witnessed thus far is only the warm-up for what is to come. The upcoming combination of defaulting, on the part of individuals, banks, and financial houses is as ominous as it gets. And if you think the Federal Reserve and U.S. officials are going to wave their magic wand and make all this better without any consequences, you are in for a big, nasty, surprise.

The Affect on Junior Mining Shares

Unfortunately, all of this is going to affect our investments. Our junior mining shares have been hit with massive selling pressures due to liquidity issues on the part of big players in our market. Other markets are being affected as well.

In my opinion, the Dow Jones is going to get clobbered, eventually making one share of the Dow equal to one ounce of gold. This ratio of one on one has happened twice throughout history and looks like it will repeat again in the coming years.

Right now we are at a ratio of 13.8 ounces of gold to buy one share of the Dow. Where the two shall meet is anyone's guess but gold will have to be much higher and the Dow will have to be much lower when that happens.

In the end, those who have little or no debt, who own gold and silver, and have positions in the quality junior mining shares should fare very well. The move to the upside in our market will gain momentum as a growing number of investors worldwide seek protection of their assets from the ongoing destruction of wealth cascading through the system.

Hang in there, our day is coming for the precious metals and junior mining shares.

Greg McCoach

Hey politics,

habe gerade diesen Artikel gelesen und an Dich denken müssen:

www.dollarcollapse.com/iNP/view.asp?ID=75

Du erinnerst mich an "Dr. John":

Taleb then brings these two completely different people together in a make-believe encounter to ask them a question in order to compare their answers.  He tells them that he has a coin and that it is “fair”, meaning that it has an equal probability of coming up heads or tails when flipped.  He then tells them he has flipped it ninety-nine times and the coin has landed heads each time. Taleb then asks them to calculate the odds of the coin landing tails on the next throw.

    “Dr. John: Trivial question.  One half, of course, since you are assuming 50 percent odds for each and independence between draws.
    NNT [Taleb]:  What do you say Fat Tony?
Fat Tony:  I'd say no more than one percent, of course.
    NNT: Why so?  I gave you the initial assumption of a fair coin, meaning that it was 50 percent either way.
    Fat Tony:  You are either full of crap or a pure sucker to buy that “50 pehcent” business. The coin gotta be loaded. It can't be a fair game. (Translation: It is far more likely that your assumptions about the fairness are wrong than the coin delivering ninety-nine heads in ninety-nine throws.)
    NNT: But Dr. John said 50 percent.
Fat Tony (whispering in my ear):  I know these guys with the nerd examples from my bank days.  They think way too slow.  And they are too commoditized.  You can take them for a ride.

As Bill Murphy noted, free markets just don’t trade the “same way over and over and over.”  If the gold market were a ‘coin’ flipped ninety-nine times in recent years, each time it came up heads.  As Fat Tony understands, da coin gotta be loaded.