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Kaeseotto und alle anderen:  Meinungen erbeten zu Phone.com Al Bundy
Al Bundy:

Kaeseotto und alle anderen: Meinungen erbeten zu Phone.com

11.01.00 20:13
Fakten: Ericsson will mit Microsoft WAP – Software entwickeln. Vodafone schmiedet Internet – Plattform mit vielen Firmen (Psion, Ericcson, Nokia, IBM u.a.). Ein Name ist aber nicht dabei: Phone.com!!!

Nach so vielen schlechten Nachrichten bin ich heute bei 121 € ausgestiegen. Deine (Eure) Meinung zu diesem Thema würde mich trotz allem Interessieren. Habe mir auch Infos zu einer anderen Interessanten Aktie geholt:
Sonera.  Sind in Finnland eine große Telefongesellschaft mit einem sehr Interessanten Beteiligungsportfolio.
Unter anderem auch den Maschinenbauer für Nokia-Handys.

Eure Meinungen???

Al grüßt
Kaeseotto und alle anderen:  Meinungen erbeten zu Phone.com Al Bundy
Al Bundy:

Danke für die Zahlreichen Beiträge.

11.01.00 21:41
Anscheinend sind wirklich nur noch Zockerwerte und keine Wachstumswerte mehr gefragt.  

Ein enttäuschter  Al
Kaeseotto und alle anderen:  Meinungen erbeten zu Phone.com jpg1

Re: Kaeseotto und alle anderen: Meinungen erbeten zu Phone.com

11.01.00 21:46
Ich würde den Kurs lieber noch eine Weile beobachten
um dann vielleicht bei 100 Euro einzusteigen
Kaeseotto und alle anderen:  Meinungen erbeten zu Phone.com kaeseotto

Hallo Al, habe leider erst jetzt Deine Mail gelesen

12.01.00 05:05
Bei phone.com wuerde ich weiter dran bleiben. Ericsson und Nokia halten gemeinsam mit phone.com die Patente, von daher kann eine Kooperation von Ericsson mit Microsoft keinen negativen Einfluss auf die Geschaeftsentwicklung von phone.com haben.
Momentan, so scheint es, hat man das Thema Internet goes Handy vollkommen wieder aus dem Blickfeld verloren, was auch ein Grund fuer die triste Kursentwicklung sein mag. Jeder stuerzt sich auf b2b-Werte.
Lieber Al, bedenke, dass in diesem Jahr die ersten internetfaehigen Geraete auf den Markt kommen.
Phone.com scheint, und dies ist mein persoenlicher Eindruck, weniger an dem reinen Handygeschaeft interessiert zu sein, sondern sich vielmehr auf die Verbindungsstellen von Telefonfirmen (Provider) zum Handy zu konzentrieren.

Ich werde auf jeden Fall hier bzgl phone.com nochmal etwas intensiver nachforschen.
Kaeseotto und alle anderen:  Meinungen erbeten zu Phone.com Al Bundy
Al Bundy:

Danke, falls Du was erfährst,

12.01.00 07:34
kannst Du mir auch eine Mail zukommen lassen.

Al grüßt
Kaeseotto und alle anderen:  Meinungen erbeten zu Phone.com kaeseotto

Fuer Al - Eine Analyse von histonix

12.01.00 10:01
PHCM in depth analysis

 I sure hope this doesn't become too long or boring, but one thing is for sure this is
 going to have plenty of facts and relevant info. I thought this would be more technical,
 but it ended in my quest of searching for the real fundamentals and finding out if this
 really was a good company, if their strategy is sound, competitors, how their technology
 competes and will evolve, and then formed my conclusion on the direction this will
 probably take.

 I begin with some brief technicals confirming that the stock is gathering strength again,
 and then comes the real stuff. The analysis of fundamentals.

 15.5% of PHCM is held by institutions, this consists of an average part of the float, this
 tells me that a cash influx from institutions hasn't taken place yet (ie in QCOM
 institution hold more than 55%). I think it is positive that some of the insiders filed to sell
 as this has increased the float, which was very small. As to technicals the stock closed
 above the 13 and 50 day moving averages today, confirming that the downtrend is
 broken. MACD histogram heading to centerline, MACD leveling out. This indicates that
 we won't see a big breakout on this cycle up, but this will set the stage for a MACD
 crossover near the centerline which will be the real breakout, which I see in
 approximately 1-2 weaks, depends when stochastic reaches oversold or close to
 oversold again. The correction has brought this stock to a great price, it not so

 overvalued now, the drop as we all now was due to the insiders selling off and is not
 grave. This last rise has been set in rising volume which might indicate the break out
 coming sooner than expected (maybe on this cycle). Indicators are indeed turning
 bullish across the board for PHCM.

 On the general side I have to claim that the more I read up on PHCM the more I like the
 company. If I have ever invested in a company and not a stock, this is it. I AM investing
 in PHCM because it is a great company with a great future, and very strong rigid
 management, well established in an area which will boom in the near future and is
 already making its entry as one of the future trends. I am bullish all the way for PHCM.

 I believe the oldest article I use is from around December 21, while most are from
 around the 28-30 December so this is current. and there are some from the last 2 days
 (Mon, Tue), I'll say again that I'm sorry not to provide the links, etc. for the stories, but I
 am completely overwhelmed by the volume of information I have dealt with when
 compiling this analysis.

 Here is a brief description of what PHCM does for any newbies to this stock.

 It's the Holy Grail of the business world-a compact, pocket-size phone that handles
 e-mail, serves as a personal organizer, and lets you "microbrowse" the Web. This year
 you can buy one from Nokia and others. While the Web access is text-based and
 primitive, it works because of a spec called WAP (Wireless Application Protocol).

 This standard is compatible with every operating system and major wireless network
 and is backed by all portable phone manufacturers, from Microsoft to IBM to Intel to
 Palm. Created by Phone.com (the former Unwired Planet) along with Ericsson,
 Motorola, and Nokia, WAP has already become a platform for other standards like
 AirFlash, which automatically delivers location-based travel information.

 Here are some facts and estimates for the market in which PHCM has established
 From 3 different estimates I have seen the lower estimate is that there are 1.7 million
 users in the wireless data market currently, while the higher estimate puts that number
 at 3 million. So the current customer base for the wireless data industry seems to be
 between 1.7 to 3 million users IN THE U.S. The estimates for 2003 are the following,
 the lower estimate calculates 25 million subscribers, and the higher one estimates 80
 million subscribers by the year 2003 IN THE U.S. alone. The mean estimate for current
 subscribers from the data I compiled is 2.35 million, and for 2003 the mean estimate is
 that there will be 47 million subscribers to wireless data services. So from this data I
 conclude that PHCM is in the right market for great sustained growth, the estimated
 growth rate for PHCM in the previous quarter (1999 fiscal 3rd quarter) was 16%, while it
 looks like the sector will grow an astonishing 20000% by the year 2003 (2.35 million to
 47 million). And since PHCM has a virtual monopoly on "smart" phone browsers, it
 would be fair to say that PHCM revenue might increase 10000 to 17500% in the span
 of the next 3 to 4 years. In the final section I will explain why I think that PHCM will endure
 to this challenge. So since PHCM's last revenue figure is 14.3 million, that up 10000%
 is in the order of around 150 million, and with 17500% it is in the order of above 250
 million US$. Not nearly as much as MSFT but you can imagine that as the company
 gets bigger it will expand into other areas, something which is already being done, ie
 the acquisition of AtMotion leader in internet voice portal technology.

 As to PHCM's management and strategy I see a company that is being well led by a
 management with a clear perception of where they are going and what their goals are,
 and a staff which lacks no initiative, which is that vital component to prosper in such a
 quickly evolving industry. The management seems to be taking the right path and is very
 effective, bold and their plan is very good and sound on the matters of getting their
 product out. The recent acquisitions confirm the clear focus of growth and aggressive
 pursuit of opportunities of the management. The acquisition of AtMotion is what I
 consider PHCM's best move as of yet, I can't believe that big money investors
 haven't jumped right into a company which is doing so much right. By acquiring
 AtMotion PHCM not only eliminated a rival, but made itself stronger and began a bit of
 diversification to exploit more the opportunities which they have opened. Together with
 AtMotion's voice portal technology PHCM's product will be enhanced and expanded.

 The following paragraph extracted from an article gives precisely the points of the
 strategy which I wanted to mention so there is no need for me to mention them.
 "Rather than bow before the cellular and software giants, Phone.com's strategy has
 been to position itself as the Switzerland of wireless solutions. Allied to no one, it has
 been able to nimbly parlay that neutrality into deals with 25 different phone
 manufacturers and 33 carriers, including heavy-hitters Alcatel, Motorola, Qualcomm,
 Nokia, and Sony. In contrast, few, it seems, are rushing to buy Nokia's proprietary WAP
 browser technology, which was released just last summer. "If you were a manufacturer,
 would you want to be dependent on your biggest competitor for a piece of software?"
 asks Ben Linder, Phone.com's vice president of marketing. "I don't think so." "

 The only thing that really worries me managementwise is that PHCM doesn't seem to
 be very concerned about profits right now, just on getting their product marketed, and
 expanding. Of course not worrying about profits in the long term is not a viable strategy,
 as no investors are poised to go into a company which doesn't make money, but I
 think the company is concentrating in the right area for now, expanding and then racking
 up the profits, but for now they have to keep setting their base in this market before
 more competitors join in. To clear my profit questions I will email PHCM management
 and will keep everyone posted on the response. They are a sizable company by now
 have recently hired a new CFO which means that now they are focusing in the right
 directions. Some assuring words which I found from the management about PHCM's
 course are the following:

 Linder insists Phone.com is relatively unconcerned about how the platform market will
 mutate because its WAP browser is designed to sit atop any compatible handheld
 operating system, much the way Netscape's browser works on both Windows and Mac
 operating systems. "In the future we hope to integrate streaming audio and video
 capabilities into future versions [of the WAP browser]," insists Linder. "The point of
 WAP is to bring the Internet to mass-market phones."

 As to PHCM's product, the browser, now that I have looked for the facts I see that they
 have some up with an outstanding and long visioned product. The product is incredibly
 versatile and very well designed, and what does the consumer love more than that.
 From customizing to any phone OS to fitting nicely on any size screen, this browser
 seems to have everything thought out. I haven't personally seen it, and since I live in
 Venezuela (really) I probably won't see it for some time to come since technology
 takes ages to reach these latitudes, but from what I have read the programming is
 excellent. The only possible fault is that web pages have to be converted to WML to be
 displayed and each site seems to have to do it on its own, but this seems to be solved
 by an easy conversion tool designed by oracle which converts the HTML into WML, so
 that is solved. I also heard of mass conversion, in the order of 300 companies making
 their page available in WML. The following extracts say everything that I would like to
 say about the product.

 Phone.com's WAP browser has proven popular for a couple of other reasons. First of
 all, it has a relatively small "footprint," industry parlance for the amount of power and
 computing capacity it requires. Proponents maintain that the WAP language, WML,
 which was developed by the four original members of the WAP Forum, is better than
 Web-based HTML at delivering content over a wireless network. Among the significant
 WAP innovations is that content is delivered as a series of layered screens, much like a
 deck of cards. If more in-depth information is required, the user clicks down through the
 "cards," rather than having to return to the Web each time through the cellular
 connection. Having a whole stack of cards downloaded to the phone at once speeds up
 the process of using a particular application enormously. The smaller, interlinked cards
 are also a more effective way of viewing information on a postage-stamp screen since
 they don't require any scrolling.

 Applications written in WML will render on any device that is WAP-compliant,
 proponents of the protocol maintain. If one device is able to display more lines of text
 than another, the microbrowser will render the extra lines automatically. WAP will also
 work with a variety of input devices, including a phone keypad or a voice-activation
 system. Finally, it is flexible enough to sit atop a variety of operating systems, from the
 simple systems currently found in cell phones to more powerful and complex operating
 systems such as Palm O/S, Windows CE, and the forthcoming EPOC operating
 system now being developed by Symbian.

 Phone.com's Linder counters that subsequent generations of its WAP browser will
 become beefier, accommodating audio and video as well as text downloads, as the
 market demands.

 On the other side of the PHCM product line is the developer site, a site with all the tools
 needed to create pages/products compatible with WAP which was created by an
 alliance of PHCM, ERICY, NOK, and MOT. The company (PHCM) seems to also own
 the licenses for this technology¡­damn.. the quality of my writing is slowly eroding..sorry
 about this, I'm just getting a bit tired (already 5 AM). In the center of this whole developer
 program is a web of alliances which PHCM has created. This seems to be a clear
 indication of PHCM's leadership in this area, since everyone jumped into their
 technology and use the tools provided by PHCM to work. The following extracts depict
 the magnitude of the developer and alliance program which is led by PHCM. It begins
 by depicting the beginning of WAP and then goes on to give an overview of what is
 currently going on with the developer/alliance programs.

 Not only did the tiny company (30 employees at the time) convince phone giants Nokia,
 Ericsson, and Motorola that they were better off working together to create one unified
 standard, known as WAP (wireless application protocol, see dictionary, but
 approximately 180 other companies have since scrambled aboard the Wireless
 Application Protocol Forum bandwagon.

 WAP Developer Program Growth Explodes More Than 300% in Six Months to Exceed
 26,000 Registrations

 This spike in growth points toward the projection that the market for the convergence of
 the Internet and the wireless phone is one of the fastest growing in global technology.
 Similarly, the company reported that the Phone.com Alliance Program has seen a 78%
 jump in membership during the same time period

 The resources available to developers in the Program include the Phone.com
 Developer Web Site, a Software Developer's Kit (UP.SDK(TM)), access to
 UP.Link(TM) to emulate provisioning, and the Phone.com Developer Forum, where
 developers can exchange ideas and receive technical expertise from the Phone.com
 technical support team
 The community of global Phone.com developers relies on the Phone.com Developer
 Web Site as its clearinghouse for information on how to create Internet and intranet
 services and applications for WAP-enabled wireless phones. The site provides tools
 and services for WAP developers to create powerful wireless applications

 The next part just reflects all the positive sentiment I've encountered on PHCM during
 my research, and I am impressed I have not found a single article which attacks PHCM.

 These are positive comments by some institutions on PHCM.

 Janus Venture Fund comments on PHCM
 In the recent Winter 1999 Janus Funds report, in the Janus Venture Fund section, I saw
 some positive comments on Phone.com. "¡­an example is software developer
 Phone.com, one of our biggest winners during the period. Phone.com's software
 connects wireless phone subscribers to the Internet, offering them mobile access to
 applications as diverse as e-mail or directions to the nearest McDonald's. Cell phone
 manufacturers have embraced Phone.com's solution; as a result, Phone.com is
 designed into over 90% of the Internet-enabled handsets that will reach the market over
 the next year. As demand for mobile Internet access increases, Phone.com should

 Positive talk on PHCM -
 stated on TSC-"Banc of America's McKechnie likes to call Phone.com the "Netscape
 of the wireless Internet -- with a much better business plan."

 I want to put the story on PHCM acquiring AtMotion which I discussed earlier. I will also
 post below that the story on PHCM's deal with Bell Mobility Canada which is another
 indicator of PHCM's growth path. This deal will give PHCM the long arm in Canadian
 Wireless Communications it seems.

 Phone.com to Integrate @Motion's Internet Voice Portal Technology With Its MyPhone
 Service Creating the First Portal With WAP, SMS and Voice Access This acquisition is
 in line with Phone.com's strategy to create the leading platform for the delivery of
 Internet services to mobile phones. "The @Motion acquisition is important because it
 demonstrates our commitment to offer new and innovative technologies that enable our
 customers to increase their per subscriber revenues while strengthening subscriber
 loyalty," said Alan Black, Phone.com's chief financial officer
 Phone.com's relationships give the company access to "over one-third of the world's
 subscriber base.

 Bell Mobility Canada and Phone.com, Inc., (Nasdaq: PHCM - news) announced today
 that Bell Mobility's PCS Mobile Browser Internet service will be enhanced with the
 addition of new handsets in the first quarter of 2000. The addition of Nokia, Samsung,
 Motorola Startac and Neopoint handsets will increase the variety of models available
 with minibrowser capabilities. Bell Mobility currently offers instant access to Internet
 services including email, mobile banking, directories, and a variety of entertainment
 services to subscribers via the PCS Mobile Browser service.

 In the following section I will analyze some of PHCM's competitors.

 The NOK SPY alliance (seemingly the only big competitors) seems to be very
 vulnerable and weak and will get crushed by PHCM as they don't have a sizable share
 of the market and their technology simply hasn't caught on. This is a nice excerpt on
 the Spyglass NOK alliance.

 In my opinion, Spyglass which is just adapting Nokia's WAP and given that Nokia
 competes directly with other cell-phone manufacturers, will have limited acceptability
 and hence upside potential.

 Spyglass may be undervalued but for good reason. That is similar to the argument that
 the undervalued companies are generally the ones that do not have much potential
 relative to their "over-valued" competitors. Hence their undervaluation.

 Competitor Avantgo doesn't seem to be much of a worry as they are going to enter
 too late into the market, and PHCM is just looking very commanding already. MSFT
 seems to be about to launch a Linux play in the wireless market with its own browser
 (bummer) although as stated MSFT is not liked by wireless companies and PHCM's
 browser still has the advantage of already being implemented and effective. As to the
 mention of XMA, I haven't been able to zoom in on what company is supposedly
 developing this.

 The following excerpts touch on most of the competitors
 Besides the big phone companies, Phone.com faces competition from many sides.
 Companies such as San Mateo, Calif.-based AvantGo, which has its own
 microbrowser technology but so far has focused on becoming the leader in delivering
 Web content to PalmPilots and Windows CE devices, is expected to announce
 wireless phone strategies in the near future. A company called @Motion, backed by
 Deutsche Telekom and Intel, is among the leaders in developing a voice-activated

 And then there's Microsoft. The company will soon toss the dice with its own
 HTML-based microbrowser. Though it has said that it will give away the source code so
 that developers can adapt it to various platforms

 Phone.com's Linder says he doesn't see the Redmond, Wash., software giant as much
 of a threat, however. "Most phone manufacturers don't have a friendly relationship with
 Microsoft," he says. "They are a bit wary and they like to control their own destiny."

 On the content side, unlike delivery systems such as AvantGo's, which can bring
 information from the Web to handheld devices using the existing HTML format,
 information delivered to WAP devices must first be rewritten in WML.

 Oracle's Project Panama software (now in development) claims to resolve this issue by
 "automatically" translating HTML content into WML content. Eventually, predicts Jacob
 Christfort, director of Oracle's mobile and embedded products division, content
 providers will switch to the next generation of markup language, XML (see "Deus X
 Machina," p92), which can then be converted into both HTML for Web browsing and
 WML for phone browsing. "We expect them to use our HTML conversion less and less
 as time goes on, and simply publish in XML right off the bat," he says.

 When you consider how QCOM has grown this is very comparable to the case of
 I believe that PHCM is like QCOM but better than QCOM. PHCM has a better grip on
 its market and is much stronger set with its WAP than QCOM is set with CDMA, but the
 growth that CDMA experienced is what I think the growth we see PHCM's technologies
 will be like but stronger. PHCM has made the case that it is here to stay, if not they
 would not have gone IPO and shaken up the management a bit. Even more positive the
 area in which PHCM is venturing has seen plenty of trial already, as shown by the Palm
 Pilot excerpt below. The small scale (handheld) data sector is already considerably
 tried and PHCM will have the experiences of other to ensure they don't do them again.
 The sector sure has tremendous future potential as shown earlier, and whoever gets in
 with a strong product (ie PHCM) will cash in. It is time you guys make your own
 conclusions, I provided plenty of material and my opinion, I would sure like to he

Kaeseotto und alle anderen:  Meinungen erbeten zu Phone.com Al Bundy

Erstmal Danke! o.T.


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