Does the Nasdaq have Bargains?

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Stox Dude:

Does the Nasdaq have Bargains?

 
26.01.01 10:11
I find myself constantly amazed at the level to which people will try to assign meaning to movements in "the market." Daily, some parking-lot-scholar-cum-talking-head tells us that "the market is saying this," or "the market doesn't like that," as if there is a hotline from Mr. Market's mouth to her ears.

Pah. It's infuriating to watch investors who, prior to 2000, thought that stocks only go up being told that this "illogical" negativity must work its way through the system so we can all go back to making big bucks in Monte Nasdaq. Guess what, y'all. The logic of the 80% rise in 1999 was just as tenuous as the logic of the big fall is now.

It's time for a reality check, folks. The stock market could rocket up to greater heights once again, but it's a fools' game if that's what you're counting on. The market is a big, dumb brute, which I am more and more convinced comprises the most irrational of all of us.

Did you ever hear that jibe about stockbrokers knowing "the price of everything, but the value of nothing"? That's the feeling I get when I see the majority of what passes for financial commentary. There is one, and only one natural law about stocks: in the long term they will track the performance of their underlying companies' businesses. I am increasingly convinced that stock prices themselves are being treated by speculators as nothing more than commodities, with the wiggles and waggles being more and more tenuously connected to the businesses that they are supposed to track.

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zit1:

of course they fck do

 
26.01.01 10:24
guter beitrag!!!
besonders aussagekräftig sind diese worte:

"Any company will be fairly valued if its price is equal to all future cash flows discounted at an appropriate rate."

"These values are historically, grotesquely high. They mean that today's investor believes that the baseline performance for these companies will be profitably growing cash flows at 50% plus per year for the next decade, only to meet the current price. There is no room for error in these numbers. If you are investing in these companies, are you truly expecting, oh, 15% annual growth in your investment, or are you just hoping that there is an idiot who will buy it for more than you did?"

denkt mal drüber nach ....


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Stox Dude:

@Zit...I think they do have bargains o.T.

 
26.01.01 10:37
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Suzie Wong:

Guter Beitrag - Stock Dude

 
26.01.01 10:52
Depots bewegen sich wieder Richtung Sueden , es ist einfach grausam ...
Werde jetzt CMRC und NT nachkaufen !
Bin bis Sonntag in Deutschland und dann in LON unterwegs. Hoffe , das bis zur Rueckkehr nach HKG Greenspann uns nicht noch ein Ei ins Nest legt...

Bis dann

Suzie Wong
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Scavenger:

@Stox Dude

 
26.01.01 11:53
Yes, you are right, and maybe still wrong a bit. Personally, I prefer price-to-cash flow ratios for rating companies, because, as you said, PEs are pretty well manipulated. What you see in the markets right now are the last dead cat bounces of the momentum players, obviously, some of them still do have cash. These guys will get creamed in February, I guess...By the way, which NASDAQ-companies do you rate excellent? My favorites are LPTH, IBEM, MCOM (got it quite hard yesterday!)
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Stox Dude:

@scavenger

 
27.01.01 11:38
AMD on the big board P/E 8.5, EPS 2.85
INTC both big board & nasadaq P/E 21-23 EPS 1.56
CSCO EPS growth 44% Forward P/E 38.5 from P/E 91
Analyst recommended "Strong Buy"
SUNW EPS growth 28.5 , Trailing P/E 48.7
Analyst recommended moderate buy / strong buy
At least the all make money, have earnings and last "pay dividend"
Interesting for me are CMRC,ARBA,ITWO,GENZ,AMGEN
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Stox Dude:

@SuzieWong

 
27.01.01 11:42
Have a nice trip,while your portfolio get some momentum re-directed
northwest,31/01/01 interest rate cut 0.25% my bet.
Cya, letshaveadrink.com/hk
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