New York (dpa) - In der US-Regierung werden die Rufe nach einem Militärschlag auch gegen den Irak immer lauter. Nach Informationen der «New York Times» gibt es eine starke Fraktion unter Leitung des stellvertretenden Verteidigungsministers Paul Wolfowitz, die Irak in Militärschläge einbeziehen will. Es zirkuliere ein Brief, in dem Präsident George W. Bush aufgefordert wird, sich dafür einzusetzen. Außenminister Colin Powell versucht unterdessen, für einen Militärschlag breite Unterstützung in aller Welt zu bekommen.
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gleich in einem oder was????
Kairo/Bagdad (dpa) - Im Irak wächst die Angst vor einem großen militärischen Angriff der USA täglich. Die nach zwei Kriegen und mehr als zehn Jahren UN-Embargo müde gewordene Bevölkerung der einst so einflussreichen Regionalmacht befürchtet, dass George W. Bush nun vollenden könnte, was sein Vater im Zweiten Golfkrieg begonnen hat: die systematische Zerstörung der militärischen und zivilen Infrastruktur des Iraks.
Medienberichte, wonach US-Ermittler bei der Suche nach den Drahtziehern der Terroranschläge vom 11. September auf eine «Irak- Connection» gestoßen sein sollen, haben inzwischen auch die irakische Regierung in Alarmbereitschaft versetzt.
«Wir haben überhaupt nichts damit zu tun», beteuert Außenminister Naji Sabri. Selbst Staatschef Saddam Hussein, der mit seinen eigenen Feinden nicht unbedingt zimperlich umgeht, rät den USA, bei der Verfolgung der Schuldigen mit «Weisheit» und nicht mit brachialer Gewalt vorzugehen.
Die anfängliche Freude der irakischen Führung nach den Terroranschlägen auf die empfindlichsten Stellen der ihr so verhassten Supermacht Amerika ist der Furcht vor dem Zorn von Bush Junior gewichen. Saddam wirft den USA vor, sie benutzten den «Feldzug gegen den Terrorismus» als Vorwand, um alte Rechnungen in der Arabischen Welt zu begleichen.
Tatsächlich spricht bislang wenig für eine Beteiligung des irakischen Baath-Regimes an der verheerendsten Terrorserie in der Geschichte der USA. Das räumte Anfang der Woche selbst US- Vizepräsident Richard Cheney ein. Beobachter im Nahen Osten halten einen Schulterschluss zwischen religiösen Fanatikern und der nationalistisch-sozialistischen Baath-Partei von Saddam Hussein aus ideologischen Gründen ohnehin für wenig wahrscheinlich.
Zwar präsentiert sich Saddam Hussein seit einigen Jahren in der Rolle des gläubigen Moslems und ruft von Zeit zu Zeit zum «Heiligen Krieg» gegen Israel auf. Doch gleichzeitig geht er mit gnadenloser Härte gegen die schiitischen Islamisten im Südirak vor.
Auch die von US-Medien verbreitete Nachricht über ein angebliches Treffen zwischen dem mutmaßlichen Flugzeugattentäter Mohammed Atta und einem hochrangigen irakischen Geheimdienstmann halten Experten in der Region für unglaubwürdig. Vor allem, da die Begegnung zwischen dem Iraker und dem ägyptischen Studenten aus Hamburg Anfang des Jahres «irgendwo in Europa» stattgefunden haben soll. Ein Treffen in Europa hätte für einen Angehörigen der irakischen Führungsclique ein extrem hohes Risiko bedeutet.
Doch trotz allem ist der Irak in den vergangenen Tagen immer wieder im Zusammenhang mit der von US-Präsident George W. Bush angekündigten großen Kampagne gegen den internationalen Terrorismus genannt worden. CNN berichtete am Mittwoch, die US-Armee bereite die Verlegung von mehr als 100 Kampfflugzeugen in die Region des Persischen Golfs vor.
Die staatlichen irakischen Medien hatten, kurz nachdem die ersten Bilder des brennenden World Trade Centers um die Welt gegangen waren, erklärt, die USA hätten nun endlich «die Quittung für die amerikanischen Verbrechen gegen die Menschheit» und für ihre «zionistische Politik» erhalten. Sollte Bagdad für diese unverhohlene Schadenfreude bald die Quittung erhalten, so steht zu befürchten, dass es erneut das irakische Volk sein wird, das dafür bezahlen muss. Denn die Entmachtung Saddam Husseins ist eine Aufgabe, an der die amerikanische Führung - und allen voran George Bush Senior - schon mehr als einmal gescheitert ist.
ageabwehr getroffen.Steht heute überall in den Zeitungen und gestern bei der Times:WEDNESDAY SEPTEMBER 19 2001
Bomber met Iraqi chief of intelligence
FROM ROLAND WATSON AND DAMIAN WHITWORTH IN WASHINGTON
A LINK between Iraq and one of the World Trade Centre attackers was disclosed last night amid British concerns that Washington might use President Bush’s war on terrorism as a pretext to topple Saddam Hussein.
American intelligence officials said that Mohammed Atta, who is believed to have been at the controls of the first jet to crash, met the head of Iraqi intelligence this year.
They stopped short of saying the meeting demonstrated that Saddam’s hand lay behind the attacks. But some leading figures in the Bush Administration believe that they could yet build a case for Iraq’s involvement.
Donald Rumsfeld, the US Defence Secretary, refused to rule out the possibility that a state had sponsored the hijacks, which have claimed more than 5,000 lives. John Ashcroft, the Attorney-General, declined to comment on reports of Iraqi involvement.
Bomber met Iraqi chief of intelligence
FROM ROLAND WATSON AND DAMIAN WHITWORTH IN WASHINGTON
A LINK between Iraq and one of the World Trade Centre attackers was disclosed last night amid British concerns that Washington might use President Bush’s war on terrorism as a pretext to topple Saddam Hussein.
American intelligence officials said that Mohammed Atta, who is believed to have been at the controls of the first jet to crash, met the head of Iraqi intelligence this year.
They stopped short of saying the meeting demonstrated that Saddam’s hand lay behind the attacks. But some leading figures in the Bush Administration believe that they could yet build a case for Iraq’s involvement.
Donald Rumsfeld, the US Defence Secretary, refused to rule out the possibility that a state had sponsored the hijacks, which have claimed more than 5,000 lives. John Ashcroft, the Attorney-General, declined to comment on reports of Iraqi involvement.
"..Denn die Entmachtung Saddam Husseins ist eine Aufgabe, an der die amerikanische Führung - und allen voran George Bush Senior - schon mehr als einmal gescheitert ist."
Es gibt genug Gottesstaaten.. Saddam ist ein Garant für Stabilität, dass ist der Grund warum man ihn nicht wollte..
Es gibt genug Gottesstaaten.. Saddam ist ein Garant für Stabilität, dass ist der Grund warum man ihn nicht wollte..
Die von US-Medien verbreitete Nachricht über ein angebliches Treffen zwischen dem mutmaßlichen Flugzeugattentäter Mohammed Atta und einem hochrangigen irakischen Geheimdienstmann halten Experten in der Region für unglaubwürdig.
Vor allem, da die Begegnung zwischen dem Iraker und dem ägyptischen Studenten aus Hamburg Anfang des Jahres «irgendwo in Europa» stattgefunden haben soll.
Ein Treffen in Europa hätte für einen Angehörigen der irakischen Führungsclique ein extrem hohes Risiko bedeutet.
Vor allem, da die Begegnung zwischen dem Iraker und dem ägyptischen Studenten aus Hamburg Anfang des Jahres «irgendwo in Europa» stattgefunden haben soll.
Ein Treffen in Europa hätte für einen Angehörigen der irakischen Führungsclique ein extrem hohes Risiko bedeutet.
wie hieß es in einem kommentar so schön: die usa konzentriere sich auf bin laden als prime suspect, als einzigen der hinter diesen attacken stehen könnte.......
... weil sie keinen anderen kennen.
www.janes.com/security/..._security/news/fr/fr010919_1_n.shtml
grüße
st
... weil sie keinen anderen kennen.
www.janes.com/security/..._security/news/fr/fr010919_1_n.shtml
grüße
st
die aussage:"..Denn die Entmachtung Saddam Husseins ist eine Aufgabe, an der die amerikanische Führung - und allen voran George Bush Senior - schon mehr als einmal gescheitert ist" ist wirklich der größte schwachsinn den ich in diesem zusammenhang gelesen habe. tatsache ist, dass der Irak nach drei tagen komplett im arsch war und die amis, aus welchen gründen auch immer, vergessen haben den satanskopf saddam abzuschlagen. so ein fehler wird ihnen nicht noch einmal unterlaufen.
als den kaputten Irak an den Hacken, das wäre viel teurer gekommen, als sich die Basen und die Übungsflüge seither von den Ölscheichs zahlen zu lassen.
perfektes Feindbild für Waffentests, Aufbau der Waffenindustrie, und wer weiß,
vielleicht auch für das WTC. Wirtschaftsankurbelung nennt man sowas.
Erzi
vielleicht auch für das WTC. Wirtschaftsankurbelung nennt man sowas.
Erzi
aber Massenentlassungen bei Boieng, den airlines, der Touriindustrie usw. ist für dich Wirtschaftsankurbelung?
Erzengel sind echt schräge Vögel....
Erzengel sind echt schräge Vögel....
www.janes.com/security/
unglaublich,was man da alles findet,-und daher bring ich Auszüge :
Israel’s military intelligence service, Aman, suspects that Iraq is the state that sponsored the suicide attacks on the New York Trade Center and the Pentagon in Washington. Directing the mission, Aman officers believe, were two of the world’s foremost terrorist masterminds: the Lebanese Imad Mughniyeh, head of the special overseas operations for Hizbullah, and the Egyptian Dr Ayman Al Zawahiri, senior member of Al-Qaeda and possible successor of the ailing Osama Bin Laden.
The two men have not been seen for some time. Mughniyeh is probably the world’s most wanted outlaw. Unconfirmed reports in Beirut say he has undergone plastic surgery and is unrecognisable. Zawahiri is thought to be based in Egypt. He could be Bin Laden’s chief representative outside Afghanistan.
The Iraqis, who for several years paid smaller groups to do their dirty work, were quick to discover the advantages of Al-Qaeda. The Israeli sources claim that for the past two years Iraqi intelligence officers were shuttling between Baghdad and Afghanistan, meeting with Ayman Al Zawahiri. According to the sources, one of the Iraqi intelligence officers, Salah Suleiman, was captured last October by the Pakistanis near the border with Afghanistan. The Iraqis are also reported to have established strong ties with Imad Mughniyeh.
"We’ve only got scraps of information, not the full picture," admits one intelligence source, "but it was good enough for us to send a warning six weeks ago to our allies that an unprecedented massive terror attack was expected. One of our indications suggested that Imad Mughniyeh met with some of his dormant agents on secret trips to Germany. We believe that the operational brains behind the New-York attack were Mughniyeh and Zawahiri, who were probably financed and got some logistical support from the Iraqi Intelligence Service (SSO)."
Mughniyeh was the only one believed to have tried it before. On April 12th 1997, he was reported to be only two hours away from achieving the highest goal of any terrorist organisation (until last week): blowing up an Israeli El-Al airliner above Tel Aviv. A man carrying a forged British passport with the name Andrew Jonathan Neumann was in a Jerusalem hotel preparing a bomb he was supposed to take on board an El-Al flight leaving Israel, when it accidentally went off. Andrew Jonathan Neumann was very badly injured but strong enough to reveal later to the Israelis that he was not British but Lebanese, and that his operation was supposed to be a special "gift" to Israel from Imad Mughniyeh.
‘A psychopath’
"Bin Laden is a schoolboy in comparison with Mughniyeh," says an Israeli who knows Mughniyeh . "The guy is a genius, someone who refined the art of terrorism to its utmost level. We studied him and reached the conclusion that he is a clinical psychopath motivated by uncontrollable psychological reasons, which we have given up trying to understand. The killing of his two brothers by the Americans only inflamed his strong motivation."
Experts on Iraq and Saddam Hussein also believe that Iraq was the state behind the two terror masterminds. "In recent months, there was a change, and Iraq decided to get into the terror business. On July 7th, they tried for the first time to send a suicide bomber, trained in Baghdad, to blow up Tel Aviv airport (Foreign Report No. 2651)."
Our sources believe that it will be very difficult to get to the bottom of this unprecedented terror operation. However, they believe the chief of the Iraqi SSO is Qusai Hussein, the dictator’s son, and his organisation is the most likely to have been involved.
Mughniyeh, 48, is a "sick man", says an intelligence officer who was in charge of his file. He is considered by Western intelligence agencies as the most dangerous active terrorist today. He is wanted by several governments and the Americans have put a $2m reward on his head.
Ideological support of suicide bombings in the Middle East is not hard to come by. While the Qur’an in Surah an-Nisaa (Chapter: ‘The Women’), verse 29 seems specifically to forbid suicide, the chapter’s 75th verse enjoins that fighting oppression is commendable. This ambiguity extends to the clergy. In 1997, Jerusalem’s Grand Mufti Ekrima Sabri, Imam of the al-Aqsa Mosque and Palestine’s most important religious figure, commented in an interview: “The person who sacrifices his life as a Muslim will know if God accepts it and whether it is for the right reason. God in the end will judge him and whether he did that for a good reason or not. We cannot judge. The measure is whether the person is doing that for his own purposes, or for Islam.” The ideological debate is whether the bombing is in fact a suicide or related to a jihad against oppression.
The Islamic jurist Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi had labelled such attacks “among the greatest forms of holy struggle against oppression.” On 1 August, according to the UK’s Sunday Times, the High Islamic Council in Saudi Arabia issued a fatwa encouraging Palestinian women to become suicide bombers.
In August, Israeli deputy public security minister, Gidon Ezra, called for eliminating the relatives of suicide bombers as a deterrent. Radio Monte Carlo on 22 August aired the possible Hamas response to such an Israeli policy in an interview with Sheikh Yassin who said: “This means that he would give the Palestinian resistance men the justification to kill all Israelis who have relatives working in the ranks of the Israeli army.” Ezra also suggested burying suicide bombers with pig skin or blood, defiling the corpse and thereby making the shaheed ineligible for holy martyr status with a promised place in heaven
When the Israelis eliminated Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) leader Abu Ali Mustafa on 27 August in a “targeted killing”, response was swift. PFLP central committee member Abu Ali Tallal stated,:“Our riposte will be hard and target American and Israeli interests, wherever they are found. We have no choice but to transform ourselves into human bombs and pursue the Israeli enemy everywhere in the interior and overseas.”
The internet and international travel have developed many links between terrorist groups, while Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation provided the perfect training ground for the ‘Afghan Arabs’. The collapse of the USSR has left the region in financial decline, awash with weapons. A number of reports over the last few years have attributed chemical-biological and nuclear weapons to Bin Ladin’s forces. The US desire for vengeance and justice must be tempered with the reality of what might be involved in invading Afghanistan. For Bin Ladin, an invasion could well prove the trigger that causes the downfall of Muslim regimes he hates, such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt.
unglaublich,was man da alles findet,-und daher bring ich Auszüge :
Israel’s military intelligence service, Aman, suspects that Iraq is the state that sponsored the suicide attacks on the New York Trade Center and the Pentagon in Washington. Directing the mission, Aman officers believe, were two of the world’s foremost terrorist masterminds: the Lebanese Imad Mughniyeh, head of the special overseas operations for Hizbullah, and the Egyptian Dr Ayman Al Zawahiri, senior member of Al-Qaeda and possible successor of the ailing Osama Bin Laden.
The two men have not been seen for some time. Mughniyeh is probably the world’s most wanted outlaw. Unconfirmed reports in Beirut say he has undergone plastic surgery and is unrecognisable. Zawahiri is thought to be based in Egypt. He could be Bin Laden’s chief representative outside Afghanistan.
The Iraqis, who for several years paid smaller groups to do their dirty work, were quick to discover the advantages of Al-Qaeda. The Israeli sources claim that for the past two years Iraqi intelligence officers were shuttling between Baghdad and Afghanistan, meeting with Ayman Al Zawahiri. According to the sources, one of the Iraqi intelligence officers, Salah Suleiman, was captured last October by the Pakistanis near the border with Afghanistan. The Iraqis are also reported to have established strong ties with Imad Mughniyeh.
"We’ve only got scraps of information, not the full picture," admits one intelligence source, "but it was good enough for us to send a warning six weeks ago to our allies that an unprecedented massive terror attack was expected. One of our indications suggested that Imad Mughniyeh met with some of his dormant agents on secret trips to Germany. We believe that the operational brains behind the New-York attack were Mughniyeh and Zawahiri, who were probably financed and got some logistical support from the Iraqi Intelligence Service (SSO)."
Mughniyeh was the only one believed to have tried it before. On April 12th 1997, he was reported to be only two hours away from achieving the highest goal of any terrorist organisation (until last week): blowing up an Israeli El-Al airliner above Tel Aviv. A man carrying a forged British passport with the name Andrew Jonathan Neumann was in a Jerusalem hotel preparing a bomb he was supposed to take on board an El-Al flight leaving Israel, when it accidentally went off. Andrew Jonathan Neumann was very badly injured but strong enough to reveal later to the Israelis that he was not British but Lebanese, and that his operation was supposed to be a special "gift" to Israel from Imad Mughniyeh.
‘A psychopath’
"Bin Laden is a schoolboy in comparison with Mughniyeh," says an Israeli who knows Mughniyeh . "The guy is a genius, someone who refined the art of terrorism to its utmost level. We studied him and reached the conclusion that he is a clinical psychopath motivated by uncontrollable psychological reasons, which we have given up trying to understand. The killing of his two brothers by the Americans only inflamed his strong motivation."
Experts on Iraq and Saddam Hussein also believe that Iraq was the state behind the two terror masterminds. "In recent months, there was a change, and Iraq decided to get into the terror business. On July 7th, they tried for the first time to send a suicide bomber, trained in Baghdad, to blow up Tel Aviv airport (Foreign Report No. 2651)."
Our sources believe that it will be very difficult to get to the bottom of this unprecedented terror operation. However, they believe the chief of the Iraqi SSO is Qusai Hussein, the dictator’s son, and his organisation is the most likely to have been involved.
Mughniyeh, 48, is a "sick man", says an intelligence officer who was in charge of his file. He is considered by Western intelligence agencies as the most dangerous active terrorist today. He is wanted by several governments and the Americans have put a $2m reward on his head.
Ideological support of suicide bombings in the Middle East is not hard to come by. While the Qur’an in Surah an-Nisaa (Chapter: ‘The Women’), verse 29 seems specifically to forbid suicide, the chapter’s 75th verse enjoins that fighting oppression is commendable. This ambiguity extends to the clergy. In 1997, Jerusalem’s Grand Mufti Ekrima Sabri, Imam of the al-Aqsa Mosque and Palestine’s most important religious figure, commented in an interview: “The person who sacrifices his life as a Muslim will know if God accepts it and whether it is for the right reason. God in the end will judge him and whether he did that for a good reason or not. We cannot judge. The measure is whether the person is doing that for his own purposes, or for Islam.” The ideological debate is whether the bombing is in fact a suicide or related to a jihad against oppression.
The Islamic jurist Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi had labelled such attacks “among the greatest forms of holy struggle against oppression.” On 1 August, according to the UK’s Sunday Times, the High Islamic Council in Saudi Arabia issued a fatwa encouraging Palestinian women to become suicide bombers.
In August, Israeli deputy public security minister, Gidon Ezra, called for eliminating the relatives of suicide bombers as a deterrent. Radio Monte Carlo on 22 August aired the possible Hamas response to such an Israeli policy in an interview with Sheikh Yassin who said: “This means that he would give the Palestinian resistance men the justification to kill all Israelis who have relatives working in the ranks of the Israeli army.” Ezra also suggested burying suicide bombers with pig skin or blood, defiling the corpse and thereby making the shaheed ineligible for holy martyr status with a promised place in heaven
When the Israelis eliminated Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) leader Abu Ali Mustafa on 27 August in a “targeted killing”, response was swift. PFLP central committee member Abu Ali Tallal stated,:“Our riposte will be hard and target American and Israeli interests, wherever they are found. We have no choice but to transform ourselves into human bombs and pursue the Israeli enemy everywhere in the interior and overseas.”
The internet and international travel have developed many links between terrorist groups, while Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation provided the perfect training ground for the ‘Afghan Arabs’. The collapse of the USSR has left the region in financial decline, awash with weapons. A number of reports over the last few years have attributed chemical-biological and nuclear weapons to Bin Ladin’s forces. The US desire for vengeance and justice must be tempered with the reality of what might be involved in invading Afghanistan. For Bin Ladin, an invasion could well prove the trigger that causes the downfall of Muslim regimes he hates, such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt.
die durchgeknallten Iraner im Schach zu halten.
Viele Grüße
aus dem Ruhrpott
Viele Grüße
aus dem Ruhrpott
Jetzt können doch bestens Fusionen stattfinden. Meinst Du den Industriebossen seien Arbeitslose nicht egal. Hauptsache der Profit stimmt und die Kluft zwischen Arm und reich wird immer größer. Viele Millionen verhungern schon, na und sind´s hald ein paar mehr. Denen ist doch das scheißegal. Die Explosion der Weltbevölkerung ist denen sowieso ein Dorn im Auge.
Aber wie gesagt, reden wir in paar Monaten weiter, dann sage ich Dir ob sich meine Annahmen bestätigt haben.
Ich gebs auch zu, wenn ich mich irren sollte.
Eckis sind schon schräge Rundungen
Erzi
Aber wie gesagt, reden wir in paar Monaten weiter, dann sage ich Dir ob sich meine Annahmen bestätigt haben.
Ich gebs auch zu, wenn ich mich irren sollte.
Eckis sind schon schräge Rundungen
Erzi
würden. Hussein hat doch Krebs oder?
Erzi
Erzi
Für meine Rundungen ein gut analysiert? So eine Frechheit. ;-)
Auch Greenspan sieht die US Wirtschaft mindestens kurzfristig stark belastet durch WTC Angriff.
Langfristig kann das nach Konjunkturprogrammen, Aufbauhilfen usw. natürlich anders aussehen.
Auch Greenspan sieht die US Wirtschaft mindestens kurzfristig stark belastet durch WTC Angriff.
Langfristig kann das nach Konjunkturprogrammen, Aufbauhilfen usw. natürlich anders aussehen.
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