raldinho
16.06.11 13:37
Ach und mein Gott
hier findet sich ja tatsächlich ein, mit interessantem Inhalt gefüllter Beitrag, daher vielen Dank für ihre Ansichten ...
"Angenommen sie investiere¬ 30 Mille. Dann nimmt man einen Short Schein mit Hebel von ca. 5 mit einigen Abstand.
Sollte nun das Invest in die falsche Richtung laufen, ..naja, dann hält sich der Verlust in Grenzen, wenn überhaupt einer ensteht.
Läuft das Invest in die richtige Richtung....Wird zwar der OS kleiner, dafür wächst aber das Invest ;-))
Also...die können nie verlieren, egal was passiert.
Und wenn der optimale Fall eintritt, dann verdienen sie 2 mal."
Dies habe ich jetzt mal mit grossem Interesse gelesen, weiter so .)...
ariva.de/forum/Analyse-DB-275538?page=544
der gemeinte Beitrag....
meingott
16.06.11 09:03
@Franke
Das Spiel geht so.
Fr. Klatten und Konsorten haben nichts zu verschenke¬n, sonst hätten die schon lange keine Kohle mehr.
Also was machen die , um ihre Investition ab zu sichern?
Ein Klasse Beitrag...hatte ich erwähnt?...sowas gehört da ja dann beispielweise auch zu?
`The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission order involves complex transactions from 2006 to 2009 in which Barclays traders are accused of taking losses in the market for delivering electricity in order to manipulate the price of an index that effectively bolstered the value of financial swaps held by the bank.
dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/11/05/a-triple-whammy-for-barclays/
also jetzt halt bei einem anderen "Bankprodukt" für die Bank?
das ist wegen folgendem soo lustig...
Betting on the bear 02 / 2012,
....Systematic sellout
In the last one and a half to two years short sellers were repeatedly provided with supporting arguments from financial analysts of banks and market research firms. Nearly every one of these establishments constantly downgraded the shares, which nipped even slight upward trends or an imminent short squeeze in the bud.
In this manner – whether through intention or coincidence – trading departments of the their own companies profited. Subsidiary companies of large business and investment banks such as Goldman Sachs and Deutsche Bank were right up in front with inscrutable hedge funds like Kynikos Associates from Jim Chanos when it came to the targeted sellout of shares..... Up to the beginning of 2010 Goldman Sachs ranked among the largest shareholders of the wind turbine engineering company Nordex.he in-house analysts also left no doubt about the fact that this involved a very attractive company and recommended that the share be purchased for up to 14 euros. However, a few weeks after Goldman Sachs sold its interest for approximately 8.50 euros per share, the analysts’ assessment also changed and since then they recommend that the share be sold. Ever since, Goldman Sachs has stood out as one of the most pessimistic analysts of the industry, although the long-term prospects are always described as favorable. In the same period short selling – also by Goldman Sachs – substantially increased.
www.pv-magazine.com/archive/articles/...0093116c#axzz23LqeQ0V1
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