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Normalerweise wird man für solche Ansichten in diesem Thread "geteert" und "gefedert"... ;-)
Im Prinzip exakt das, was ich gestern hier lang und breit ausgeführt habe. Ich kann dem Ihub-User nur voll und ganz beipflichten. Hier gibt es aber Leute, die immer noch nicht verstehen wollen, dass der PoR das Ergebnis der Mediation ist. Diese sollten sich folgendes Zitat von bkshadow einmal genau durchlesen, denn besser kann man es nicht ausdrücken:
"...the only people who are surprised or disappointed today are those that believed in something that they created in their own mind (or from someone else who that something in their head and they chose to believe ~ over the reminder of many who said such was impossible, unless 'unicorns ruled as some might say)..."
Das einzig merkwürdige sind Deine absurden Gedankengänge. Vermutlich wird man demnächst noch bezichtigt, landers Account gehackt und dann das IHub-Posting eingestellt zu haben. Das nimmt langsam aber sicher pathologische Züge an.
Wer sich angesprochen fühlt...
Dieser Satz im vom Lander eingestellten Beitrag des Users "bkshadow":
4. Read the 10-K and what management and the BOD are telling you without rose colored glasses
erinnerte mich doch stark in Satzbau und Ausdrucksweise an Beiträgen aus Deiner Hand. Eine Auswahl an Beiträgen aus der letzten Woche gefällig in der Du die Phrase mit der rosaroten Brille gerne benutzt hast ?
http://www.ariva.de/forum/...s-Corp-News-461347?page=698#jumppos17458
http://www.ariva.de/forum/...s-Corp-News-461347?page=701#jumppos17533
http://www.ariva.de/forum/...s-Corp-News-461347?page=701#jumppos17539
Natürlich kann das alles Zufall sein und vielleicht hat ja auch dieser User Deine Beiträge übersetzt und sich als Beispiel genommen oder umgekehrt haben Dir dessen ältere Beiträge so gut gefallen das Du seine Formulierungen übernommen hast. Alles ist möglich...
Das ich dies als merkwürdig empfinde kannst Du aber gerne als merkwürdig empfinden und mit dem Psychiater deines Vertrauens besprechen.
Schönes Wochenende auch an Dich
ranger100
im amerik. Steuerdschungel liegt irgendwo unsere Wahrheit (Geld;) gib dem Kind einen anderen Namen, verwandt, werschwägert, ne Subfima die zu WMI gehört - te usw. die bekommt dann einen Kredit in exorbitanten Ausmaß da Sie über drei Ecken mit ehemals WMI usw. zusammenhängt also auch irgendwelche Verluste(Nol) ausweisen kann usw. ach, ja ob dann Dell oder sonst wer bei dem Laden(Holding, Versicherung, Rückversicherung was auch immer) einsteigt oder anders herum ist doch faktisch wieder nur eine steuerliche Angelegenheit.
z.B.: Diskussion im Amiforum darüber (wäre hier vielleicht auch angebracht, anstatt der sinnlosen Reibereien (vielleicht mit Steuerlicher Kompetenz aus den eigenen Reihen?) __________________________________________________
www.boardpost.net/forum/index.php?topic=2428.msg32862#msg32862
Zitat von govinsider on March 22, 2013, 11:36:26 AM:
Well it's not popular to mention those, and yes they were accurate... Now, for the "fickled and EMOTIONAL", try this one on for size: 831(b) Captive Insurance Companies "MiniCaptives" Drawbacks There are drawbacks to the 831(b) election, the most significant of which is the inability to carry forward net operating losses (NOL).
This limitation is broadly applied in any year in which the company is taxed under section 831(b).
Can not be carried forward from a year in which the company was taxed under Section 831(b)
Can not be carried forward to a year in which the company is taxed under Section 831(b).
Can not be carried forward across a year in which the company is taxed under Section 831(b).
You lose any existing NOL carry forward benefit once we make the election. Other significant drawbacks are the inability to deduct incurred losses and the limitation on the deduction of operating expenses to investment expenses. While the election works to your benefit when you make an underwriting profit, it can work against you when you have losses.
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Kommentar von lawrencemeany dazu:
Zitat: ah oh!!! Not going to be very popular gov... get ready to be blasted by the high and mighty ones.... but according to info provided by "sys" the other day...wasn't the plan looking like a move from Class 2 to Class 4 a non-captive reinsurance or other type of financial industry entity? I have to go back and re-read.. good luck and thanks.... interesting...
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Zitat rockwell:
WMIH (which owns the NOL) is a holding company, not an insurance company.
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Zitat CharlienDude:
Thank You!! NOLs transferred from WMI to WMIH ... not to the WMMRC Sub! Pretty certain the highly experienced tax/legal experts have a lot better understanding of all of the tax implications than others do. Added: WMMRC has always been a Class 2 Captive Reinnsurance company who was included in the consolidated tax returns when it was a third-tier sub of WMI. The last tax returns WMI filed through 2008 with significant losses included WMMRC so how would it be any different now or for the future use of the NOLs?
WMIHC is working to change it from Class 2 to Class 4 (segregated cell). 831B Captive has never been mentioned in any of WMIH reports. If there is, then someone should post a reference to it!!
Quote Are you sure that WMMRC is eligible to have this election applied? eligible? could be If so, Is WMMRC going to elect 831 (b). No Idea You have written about this several times now, Is this issue relevant to WMIH? For ME, EVERYTHING is relevant until told otherwise by someone other than on here <> As per latest 10K, WMMRC has earned a premiums of about 20 million for 2012 (although a major decline from 2010 and 2011), So how could 831(b) be applicable? By creating mini-captives with like companies? dunno
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Zitat lawrencemeany:
hhhhmmmm.. true ....the NOLs are with the parent/holding company... and not WMMRC.... so, I am not sure how this works out in a consolidated tax filing method.... but possibly that could be a loop hole whereby WMIH owns the NOLs and may not be affected by what WMMRC does in relation to the Class 2 to 4 captive status..... good catch..
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Zitat rockwell:
I just read the good parts (I assume) of the recent 10-k. The board (which govinsider keeps maligning) is pursuing an acquisition business strategy. They are virtually breaking their ties to WMMRC and letting it wind down under the watch of WMIH's 'lenders' because WMMRC is our collateral for their 'loan'. So all this talk about reinsurance business is probably meaningless Zitatende
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Zitat CharlienDude:
Not exactly what I got from that. They are moving the current runoff policies TO a Class 4 segregated cell. They (WMIHC) will still retain the WMMRC sub .... possibility for any future reinsurance business (??). This segregation keeps any new reinsurance business from commingling with the runoff policies that are pledged to the RONs and possible loan from the Credit Facility. Much cleaner accounting practice. Here's the language from the 10K: ""...segregated cell captive insurance company and transfer/novate all existing business, assets, liabilities, equity and agreements from WMMRC to the newly created segregated cell.""
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MfG.L:)
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