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Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK

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Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK

 
29.02.04 18:34
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Fuer's Daytrading unerlaessliche Indikatoren sind diese drei:



 

Watching the TRIN

One of the seldom-followed indicators for the daily direction of the market is the TRIN, or ARMS index. Briefing has noticed that at times, however, this index has been a pretty good leading indicator of the daily direction of the market.

The TRIN is a calculation that relates up-volume to down-volume for the overall market, and contains more information than the advance/decline ratio (A/D). The advance/decline ratio is usually expressed as a pure number (1495 advances to 1579 declines yesterday on the NYSE). The TRIN includes a measure of the volume behind advances and declines, and is expressed as a ratio.

TRIN is the ratio of advances to declines divided by the ratio of up-volume to down-volume. TRIN is calculated using the following formula:

TRIN = (# of advancing stocks / # of declining stocks) / (up-volume/down-volume)

For example, if the number of advances equals the number of declines and the total up-volume equals the total down-volume, the ratio is 1.0 over 1.0, for a TRIN ratio of 1.0.

Ratios less than 1.0 are considered bullish, ratios over 1.0 are considered bearish. The table below summarizes most people's interpretation of TRIN, although interpretations vary.

0.65 and lower

0.65 - 0.90

0.90 - 1.10

1.10 - 1.35

1.35 and above

very bullish

bullish

neutral

bearish

very bearish

There are some who argue that ratios at the furthest extremes become contra-indicative. In other words, a ratio of 1.80 might be argued as a bullish condition, because it indicates an extremely oversold condition. However, for a simple subjective measurement, the preceding table is useful.

Most technical analysts use TRIN charts with 20-day moving averages, and other sophistications. But we've noticed that it is often helpful as a short-term barometer for the day's direction.

TRIN Experiences

To illustrate how the TRIN can be used, we considered some actual trading days. The NYSE TRIN index was a useful indicator of the overall market direction on a short-term daily basis. Briefing noticed this on a purely subjective basis; we did not do a comprehensive academic-style study using months or years of data.

 

 

 

 

As a brief example of this, consider the TRIN on the following days.

Dec. 1

09:45

10:00

11:00

12:00

13:00

14:00

15:00

Close

DOW

-68.23

-55.87

-96.55

-47.89

-19.57

-9.78

-34.76

+16.99

Trin

1.17

0.96

1.03

1.00

0.92

0.89

0.98

0.94

In this example, the TRIN started out neutral, but on the bearish side, and then trended toward bullishness. The market recovered steadily during the day.

Nov. 30

09:45

10:00

11:00

12:00

13:00

14:00

15:00

Close

DOW

-39.14

-36.30

-102.47

-109.17

-105.56

-130.53

-158.08

-216.53

Trin

1.15

1.06

1.43

1.32

1.34

1.28

1.46

1.85

But on November 30, the TRIN also started out neutral, and approximately at the same level, but then rose sharply into the bearish territory above 1.35. The trend never really went back down, and the market declined steadily.

Nov. 23

09:45

10:00

11:00

12:00

13:00

14:00

15:00

Close

DOW

+58.96

+74.41

+81.61

+120.75

+157.82

+151.64

+151.13

+214.72

Trin

0.49

0.50

0.63

0.60

0.56

0.56

0.56

0.58

On November 23, the TRIN started out bullishly low and stayed low. Although it rose some from the open, it never left bullish territory and the market rose continually all day.

Nov. 11

09:45

10:00

11:00

12:00

13:00

14:00

15:00

Close

DOW

+51.49

+46.34

+4.89

+17.25

+7.98

-33.73

-54.33

-40.16

Trin

0.57

0.41

0.77

0.79

0.86

0.84

0.90

0.96

As a final example, on November 11, the TRIN started out bullish, but rose steadily above the bullish indicator by noon and continued rising. The market lost all of its momentum and closed down for the day, losing about 90 points from its early high.

In all of these examples, the trend in the TRIN during the first part of the day is the indicator, not the overall reading.

TRIN as a Trading Vehicle

As a trading indicator, the TRIN is probably not that useful. It's widely following by technical analysts and incorporated as a data point in many computerized trading programs. As such, the value of futures contracts or other instruments representing the overall market usually have TRIN indicators factored in.

Nevertheless, watching the TRIN on an hourly basis can give you a little bit of a clue as to how the day might turn out. The TRIN is published hourly on Briefing.com's Market Internals page.

 

 

The Volatility Index (VIX) & the S&P 100 (OEX)

The Volatility Index (known as the VIX) measures the implied volatility in the prices of a basket of options on the S&P 100 Index (OEX).  The S&P 100 itself contains the largest 100 stocks in the S&P 500 that have options traded on them.  

 

The VIX covers a relatively narrow group stocks, but those stocks are among the largest companies traded in the United States.  Quotes on the VIX are available in real time throughout the day on many services.  You'll find some sources further down on this page.  


What Does it do?

 

The VIX measures implied volatility in S&P 100 options.  It can be used as a tool for measuring investor fear.  High readings (above 50) mark periods of maximum fear and have pinpointed important market bottoms.  Low readings (below 20), while not as accurate and timely as high readings, illustrate investor complacency and usually point to market tops.


The VIX in Action

 

The five-year charts below show the VIX on top and the S&P 100 below it.  The three times during the period covered that the VIX reached the 50 area, in October of 1998, in September of 2001, and in July of 2002, were all followed by powerful rallies in the S&P 100 Index (and in all the other major indexes like the Dow Jones Industrials, the S&P 500, and the Nasdaq Composite). 

  

  

The October 1998 Market Bottom
(The Long-Term Capital Management Crisis) 

 

The actual high made by the VIX on October 8, 1998, near the left side of the top chart, was 60.63.  (Please note that the charts show only the daily closing prices and not intraday levels).  The VIX closed at 48.56 that day.  The S&P 100 traded as low as 454.93, but bounced back to finish at 471.84.  The S&P 100 climbed to 590.82 by November 27 of 1998.  It recorded a 25.2 percent gain in just more than a month and a half.  As the second chart indicates, the S&P 100 eventually rallied to above 800 by the first quarter of 2000.

 

 

 

The September 2001 Market Bottom (The September 11 Terrorist Attacks)

 

The VIX reached 57.31 on September 21, 2001, before backing off to close at 47.21.  The S&P 100 dipped to 480.07 that day, but closed at 491.70.  Less than two months later, on November 19, the S&P 100 settled at 595.07.  The 21-percent gain in the midst of one of history's worst bear markets was certainly welcomed by exhausted traders!   

 

 

 

The July 2002 Market Bottom (The Insider Trading and Accounting Scandals)

 

The bear was far from being finished with his dirty work as the markets plunged again during the summer of 2002.  The VIX shot up to 56.74 on the morning of July 24, 2002, as panicked investors sold stocks that they must have thought were going to zero.  As the market rebounded later in the day, the VIX pulled back to close at 45.29.  The S&P 100 plunged to 384.96 early that day, but came back to close at 419.98.  On August 22, less than a month later, it settled at 485.95.  That works out to a 15.7 percent gain on a closing basis and a 26.2 percent climb from the July 24 intraday bottom.

 

 

 

The VIX Helps To Spot Lows During Both Bull And Bear Markets

 

As can be seen on the charts above, the VIX pinpointed tradable market bottoms during the height of the late 1990s super bull market and also on two occasions during the worst bear market since the Great Depression.  Like other indicators that have been accurate for periods of time, we think that the VIX can be used as a helpful tool for market timing.  

 

To buy stocks or go long the market when it reaches levels above 50 takes some courage.  If you go back and review the headlines during the three periods discussed above, you will get the idea that the investment world as you knew it, was about to come to an end.  

 

 

 

Using S&P 100 Options to Trade Extreme Levels in the VIX

 

One way to profit when the market reaches these extreme levels (and we expect more of them to be seen in coming years) is to trade it with options in the S&P 100 Index, commonly known as the OEX.  Since the VIX itself measures option volatility in the OEX, it is probably the best index to use for trades.  If the timing is right, call options that cost as little as $200 or $300 each, can quickly double or triple in price.  If the entry point is not right, the most at risk is the amount paid to purchase the call option.   

 

On the evening of July 23, 2002, after the major market indexes had closed lower four times in a row and the VIX had reached buy territory, Stricknet's nightly options report made the following pick:

 

For investments, we are looking to buy calls on the S&P 100 Index (OEX) any time the major averages have a huge intraday selloff this week. That would work out to 500 plus points on the Dow or 75 points or more on the Nasdaq. We would be looking to use whichever OEX August calls that could be picked up for 2.00 points or less. This trade would attempt to capture a two or three-day rebound from such a deep selloff.

If that were to occur, depending on how price and volume patterns are going, we'd then look to purchase some inexpensive August OEX puts. The thought here is that this rally would fail like all others this year have. With the possibility of a lot of fireworks between now and August 14, short-term trades using calls and puts in the volatile OEX could be among the market's best opportunities. Today, the VIX, an indicator that measures fear and complacency among OEX option players, rose by 2.25 points to 50.48. It was the first time that the contrarian sentiment gauge has ever settled above 50.

 

The market cooperated by plunging on the morning of July 24, but not by as much as described in the newsletter.  When the VIX reached 57, early in the day, we picked up some inexpensive OEX August call options as described in the excerpt from the options report sent to subscribers on the evening of July 24, 2002: 

 

When we saw world markets trading sharply lower and the VIX pop up to near 57 this morning we thought that things had gone too far and we decided to nibble on the long side with some S&P 100 Index (OEX) options. We bought some August 450 calls (OXBHJ) at 2.30 each. They settled with a bid of 5.00 as the OEX rallied back from an 11-point deficit to close 23.23 points higher at 419.98. 

 

On July 30, 2002, those August OEX calls, purchased for $230 each, were sold for almost $1,000 each.  On that day, OEX September 500 calls were purchased for $320 each.  On August 21, 2002, some of those September calls were sold for $700 each.  

 



 

Live Charts of the OEX and the VIX

 

You can see live, real-time charts of the OEX and the VIX at Lycos Finance (formerly quote.com).  

 

For a chart of the OEX, in the box at the top of the page where it says "Enter Symbol," type in $OEX.X, click on "LiveChart" in the dropdown box immediately to the right, then click the "Submit" button.  

 

For a chart on the VIX, type in INDEX:VIX.X, then follow the same instructions as above. 

 

Lycos is a free site and you can create 11 different chart views with bars ranging from one minute, which covers the very short term, to one year, which goes back to the beginning of their database.

 

 Quotes for the OEX  

 

Options quotes for the OEX can be found at Yahoo Finance under the ticker symbol ^OEX.  You can also pull up quotes at the Chicago Board Options Exchange  site under the ticker symbol OEX.

 

 

 

Tick

 

 

 

The Tick can be used as a short-term indicator while day trading. Although it represents the number of stocks ticking up minus the number of stocks ticking down on the NYSE, it can be used as a barometer for stocks trading on all US Exchanges.

For example, if the Tick reads +200, then 200 more stocks on the NYSE are ticking up then are ticking down. This is obviously a bullish signal. If the Tick should read -354, then we understand that 354 more stocks are ticking down then are ticking up. This is a bearish signal. In addition to the actual "number" reading of the Tick, one should also pay attention to how the Tick is trading in relation to it's support and resistance. Be sure to watch it on a 5 or 15 minute chart in realtime. If you don't have access to realtime charts, you can take a look at these packages of stock trading software. The Tick also scrolls by during the "CNBC Market Summary" section of the CNBC ticker.

When the Tick remains positive on the day bullish momentum can continue. When the Tick remains negative, bearish momentum can continue. However, if the Tick should rise over +1000, the market will likely soon reverse because it has become over bought. The reverse is also true. If the Tick should fall below -1000, the market will likely reverse because it has become very oversold.

If you happen to be long when the Tick begins to rise over +1000 or short when the Tick begins to fall below -1000, you need to begin to lighten up on your positions or close them entirely in anticipation of a reversal.

To be extremly careful while trading, only enter longs when the Tick is above zero and shorts when the Tick is below zero.

 

 





A/D Line ist ein mittlerweile veralteter Indikator, der heute nur noch nachlaeuft, aber nicht mehr warnt.

Weitere Indikatoren von eurer Seite, sind in diesem Thread herzlich willkommen!


Gruss


Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK hjw2
hjw2:

thx

 
01.03.04 03:12
#2
in der tat, wichtige werkzeuge
Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK Parocorp
Parocorp:

mal anschauen,

 
01.03.04 11:58
#3
is gut gemeint.

gruss
Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK Parocorp
Parocorp:

Aktien Maerkte Analysieren

 
03.03.04 10:08
#4

Analysing Stock Markets

When you trade stocks, you may want to do some analysis on your own. The financial industry invented lot's of tools for the professional trader. You just need to know how to use and where to get them. Now, amid the Internet Age, it's even easier to get the appropriate information you need. We at Tradersdock.com are happy to show you the most effective tools to analyse trends and developments in stock markets.

You will now learn how to analyse the stock market with the help of three important indicators:


ARMS-NYSE Index (TRIN)

What is it:

ARMS INDEX (also known as the TRIN) named after originator Richard Arms. This is a volume based indicator which looks at market strength and breadth and simply states whether the stocks gaining in price or those dropping in price are getting the greater share of market activity (volume). 

                                   (# of advancing issues / # of declining issues)

INDEX VALUE =  --------------------------------------------------

                                    (advancing volume/declining volume)


How does it work:

An ARMS value of 1 indicates that the ratio of up volume to down volume is equal to the ratio of advancing issues to the declining issues and the market is in a neutral condition. A neutral condition simply means that the up volume is equally distributed over the advancing issues and that the down volume is equally distributed over declining issues for the day.

Use a 5-day moving average:

This indicator, although simple in its formulation, it can require much study in its application. There are many variations applied to the TRIN.

We recommend using a 5-day moving average on the TRIN to smooth the movements. We learned that the plain TRIN indicator is way to fast and not reliable enough for trading signals. A 5-day moving average instead works very fine in every market condition.

How a trading signal is generated:

A reading of less than 0.7 indicates a Sell signal, a reading between 0.7 and 1.3 indicates a neutral market and a reading above 1.3 indicates a Buy signal.

This Indicator worked for us for many years and is very reliable:

Real Chart examples:

The green bars are the daily TRIN readings. The blue line is the 5-day moving average on the TRIN index. We put a green line at the reading of 1.3 (Buy zone) and a red line at 0.7 (sell zone). See how often the blue line (5-day moving average) was on the right side of the market.  

Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK 1408181

Above: NYSE Short Term Trading Index Daily Chart from April 1999 till September 1999  

Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK 1408181

Above: S&P500 Index Daily Chart from April 1999 till September 1999

The sell signal on April 11th was followed by a nasty downmove in the S&P500. Only some days later our TRIN Index touched the green line and gave us a buy signal at the bottom of the market in April. After some time of neutral markets our indicator gave us a buy signal at the end of May. This was the beginning of a nice upmove in the market till mid July. On July 5th our indicator warned us that the market is overbought and some correction is near. The sell signal came only 20 Points below the top and saved us from the big downmove into mid August. The buy signal on August 5th came at the right time and let us participate on the upmove till late August where another sell signal were given by our Indicator. It was followed by a very hard 3day Downmove which found bottom around 1320 S&P500 points. The buy signal on the beginning of September was followed by a nice rebound...

How to get the data:

Every Data Vendor offers the TRIN index data. For example you can get the data from http://www.quote.com by entering the symbol “$TRIN”. The daily data can be collected in an excel sheet where a calculation of the 5 day moving average is simple.

We recommend to get some daily routine in your trading preparations. A good way to start your daily research is to calculate the actual indicator values to get a sense where the market will be most likely heading in the next days.


NYSE Up&Down Ratio (TICK)

What is it:

The TICK Index is the difference between the number of issues (or stocks) trading with the last trade higher (an uptick) form the previous price and issues (or stocks) trading with the last trade lower (a downtick) for the previous price. The TICK Index is useful in identifying turning points in the market when tick readings are at an extreme level.

For that purpose we use a 5-day moving average on the daily TICK Index data to smooth the movements. We learned that the plain TICK indicator is way to fast and not reliable enough for trading signals. A 5-day moving average instead works very fine in every market condition.  

How a trading signal is generated:

A reading below –300 is considered as a Buy signal, a reading between –300 and +600 is indicating a neutral market and a reading above 600 is considered as a Sell signal.

This TICK Index Indicator is very reliable since it does only give signals at very extreme market movements. When a signal is generated, the market is often in a very oversold or overbought status and is due for a technical reaction which generates fast profits for traders:

Real Chart examples:

The green bars are the daily TICK readings. The blue line is the 5-day moving average on the TICK index. We put a green line at the reading of -300 (Buy zone) and a red line at +600 (sell zone). See how often the blue line was on the right side of the market.

Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK 1408181

Above: NYSE TICK Index Daily Chart from July 1999 till December 1999  

Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK 1408181

Above: S&P500 Index Daily Chart from July 1999 till December 1999

The sell signal on mid July and also mid August marked the short term tops of the market perfectly. See how the red sell signal line was penetrated and a downmove in the stockmarket followed. The green buy signal line was touched late September and mid October which let us participate on the particular upmoves.
 

How to get the data:

Every Data Vendor offers the TICK index data. For example you can get the data from http://www.quote.com by entering the symbol “$TICK”. The daily data can be collected in an excel sheet where a calculation of the 5 day moving average is simple.

We recommend to get some daily routine in your trading preparations. A good way to start your daily research is to calculate the actual indicator values to get a sense where the market could be heading in the next days.


CBOE Volatility Index (VIX)

What is it:

The volatility index measures the speed of price movement on the S&P 100 index (OEX), and mainly tells traders the average premium levels of the OEX options traded. It can turn on a dime, going from low to high and back again, much like a stock.

How does it work:

When the volatility index trades at lofty levels, it tells you that options traders are betting on a continued drop in the markets, by purchasing puts and selling calls in full force. This almost always precedes a bottom in the market.

How a trading signal is generated:

A reading above 30 indicates an oversold market with higher risk involved in short trades. 

When the volatility index is low, the market is in a quiet mode and market movements are small. We have found that a stormy market is not far behind a quiet volatility index. A reading below 20 indicates an overbought market with higher risk involved in long trades. The table below provides a recap of volatility index peaks and valleys for 1999.

Date

VIX High or Low

Results

March 4, 1999

VIX High 30.98 (Market Bottom)

150 point rise in 6 weeks

July 16, 1999

VIX Low 17.70 (Market Top)

50 point drop in 4 weeks

August 5, 1999

VIX High 32.12(Market Bottom)

50 point rise in 4 weeks

October 15, 1999

VIX High 33.44 (Market Bottom)

150 point rise in 10 weeks

The volatility index enables traders to gauge whether options are cheap or expensive. If the volatility index get readings above 30, options are quite expensive and a selling strategy may prove better than simply buying options.

If the volatility index hits the low 20s again, buying options will offer greater opportunities than selling options. Either way, using volatility index to interpret the markets offers traders consistent tools for gauging market timing and assessing option values.

The Volatility indicator is an excellent tool to affirm the results from the other indicators. Never open a position against the volatility index. On the other hand your confidence will rise whenever the Volatility Indicator flashes a signal together with another indicator shown above! We recommend using the four indicators together. They are a powerful trading tool.

How to get the data:

Every Data Vendor offers the volatility index data. For example you can get the data from http://www.quote.com by entering the symbol “VIX.X”. The daily data can be collected in an excel sheet.

We recommend to get some daily routine in your trading preparations. A good way to start your daily research is to calculate the actual indicator values to get a sense where the market will be most likely heading in the next days.

 

You can start with the approach that makes the most “sense” to you. We believe all indicators are good. What matters is which ones you like and which ones are applicable for your situation. Try a combined approach to your trading.

Get in the habit of a daily routine. If you are a full-time trader, you should start to get ready to trade at least one hour before the market opens. You can use this time before the market opens to collect the actual data and calculate the indicators. They will provide you with very important parameters for your trading plan. Stick with it and your trading results will improve significantly.

Tradersdock.com Swing Trading Team

Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK Parocorp
Parocorp:

Ergaenzung zum letzten Posting

 
03.03.04 10:12
#5
How a trading signal is generated:

A reading of less than 0.7 indicates a Sell signal, a reading between 0.7 and 1.3 indicates a neutral market and a reading above 1.3 indicates a Buy signal.




Das stimmt so nicht...  "um 0.7 ist BUY" und "ab 1.3 ist SELL".

Gruss

Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK hotte39
hotte39:

Frage: Gibt es diese Texte auch in deutscher ...

 
03.03.04 10:16
#6
Sprache? Die Schule liegt schon so lange zurück.

Gruß Hotte
Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK Parocorp
Parocorp:

@hotte

 
03.03.04 10:18
#7
da kann ich dir leider nicht helfen, auch wenn ich's gerne taete...

gruss
Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK hotte39
hotte39:

Danke, für Deine schnelle Antwort!

 
03.03.04 10:22
#8
Gruß Hotte
Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK cascaisienne
cascaisienne:

@hotte

 
03.03.04 11:34
#9
lad dir mal den google übersetzer runter der hilft mir auch oft

Gruß cascaisienne
Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK hotte39
hotte39:

Vielen Dank C 2 in L., ich ...

 
04.03.04 19:51
#10
muss den google-Übersetzer mal am WE, wenn ich mehr Zeit habe, ausprobieren. Hoffentlich kriege ich das hin.

(Wg. C 2: Nicht wundern, ich lese schon lange im fh-thread mit, obwohl ich
kein daytrader bin. Ist ein gutes Team, prima Klima und lernen kann man von denen viel. Schade, dass sich oni in der letzten Zeit so rar macht; habe seine Tradings schon einige Male verfolgt. Er muss ja Nerven wie Drahtseile haben. Und immer sehr erfolgreich. Am meisten drücke ich R4lle und Geselle die Daumen. Es tut mir immer besonders bei ihnen leid, wenn sie mal einen Verlust erleiden).

Gruß Hotte  
Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK Parocorp
Parocorp:

Alle drei, aber besonders der

 
08.03.04 14:46
#11
VIX sollten diese Tage wieder beachtet werden...





Ueber 30 = Ueberverkaufte Zone beginnt

Unter 20 = Ueberkaufte Zone beginnt



March 4, 1999
VIX High 30.98 (Market Bottom)
150 point rise in 6 weeks

July 16, 1999
VIX Low 17.70 (Market Top)
50 point drop in 4 weeks

August 5, 1999
VIX High 32.12(Market Bottom)
50 point rise in 4 weeks

October 15, 1999
VIX High 33.44 (Market Bottom)
150 point rise in 10 weeks


The volatility index enables traders to gauge whether options are cheap or expensive. If the volatility index get readings above 30, options are quite expensive and a selling strategy may prove better than simply buying options.

If the volatility index hits the low 20s again, buying options will offer greater opportunities than selling options. Either way, using volatility index to interpret the markets offers traders consistent tools for gauging market timing and assessing option values.

The Volatility indicator is an excellent tool to affirm the results from the other indicators. Never open a position against the volatility index. On the other hand your confidence will rise whenever the Volatility Indicator flashes a signal together with another indicator shown above! We recommend using the four indicators together. They are a powerful trading tool.


Gruss
Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK hotte39
hotte39:

@ Parocorp! Um die für den Online-Handel ...

 
01.04.04 01:55
#12
notwendigen Charts usw. beobachten und direkt im Auge haben zu können, muss man ja auch über die entsprechende Hardware verfügen. Über welche Mindestausrüstung muss man Deiner Meinung nach verfügen, wenn man online Zertis usw. handeln möchte. Kann man eigentlich Aktien genauso schnell wieder verkaufen, ich meine am selben Tag? Derzeit muss ich ein Papier mindestens eine Nacht über halten. Auch kann ich noch nicht online handeln.

Eignet sich als Ergänzung beispielsweise ein  Notebook oder sollte man lieber einen zusätzlichen PC kaufen? Kann man übrigens an einen PC zwei Bildschirme anschließen? Ich möchte die ganze Geschichte eigentlich nicht profimäßig betreiben, sondern nur gelegentlich und nebenbei, weil ich zeitlich eingeschränkt bin. Wie Du sicher gemerkt hast, bin ich noch Anfänger auf verschiedenen Gebieten.

Gruß Hotte

Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK geldschneider
geldschneider:

Mann kann 2 Bildschirme an den PC anschließen

 
01.04.04 10:22
#13
2 Computer brauchst du auch nicht, wenn du ein Notebook zusätzlich nimmst bist du besser dran!
Brauchst nur die entsprechende Hardware. Habe meinen neuen PC gleich mit 2 Bildschirmanschlüssen bestellt, kann man aber auch nachrüsten!

Und einen Onlinebroker brauchst Du auch! Mail mich mal bitte an!
geldschneider@onlinehome.de

Und das mit dem Trin Vix, Trading, vielleicht gibt darüber demnächst auch ein Buch in Deutscher Sprache!  
Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK hotte39
hotte39:

@ Geldschneider! Mehl unterwegs ...

 
01.04.04 13:14
#14
Vielen Dank für Deine frdl. Hilfe im Voraus.

Gruß Hotte
Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK romkla
romkla:

hallo geldschneider,

 
01.04.04 13:37
#15
könntest du deine erklärungen nicht doch hier im thread schreiben, da es für mich als neuling auch sehr interessant wäre.
lg
romkla
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hotte39:

@ romkla ! Die Erklärung bzw. ...

 
01.04.04 16:47
#16
die Mail bezog sich hauptsächlich nur auf den Onlinebroker. Wenn es darum geht, frage mal Deinen Landsmann Eastsida im fh-Thread. Er ist ein cleverer Bursche und arbeitet sogar bei einer Bank. Schöne Osterferien mit Deinen Kids!. Habe ich irgendwo gelesen. Dort ging es um Ulrich14.

@ Geldschneider: Thx for Mail.

Gruß Hotte
Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK geldschneider
geldschneider:

@hotte Du brauchst auch keine 2 Bildschirme

 
01.04.04 17:11
#17
Ich habe auch mit einem angefangen, obgleich ich den ganzen Tag vor dem Ding sitze!
Für Dein Trading ist 1 Bildschirm ausreichend! Über dich erst mal im Traden mit eienm Bildschirm!
Außer du machst Futures! Da reichen 2 nicht immer!

gruß
GS
Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK Parocorp
Parocorp:

2 bildschirme

 
01.04.04 17:32
#18
muessen am anfang nciht sein, mit der zeit wird das umswitchen zwischen ordermaske oder den verschiedenen zeiteingestellten charts etwas muehsam...


ich empfehle dir, wenn du eine gute und guenstige dual head grafikkarte suchst, mal bei ebay vorbeizuschauen...

dort kannste du die (m.m. nach beste karte ever) fuer ganz ganz kleines geld abstauben:

search.ebay.de/search/...cordsperpage=50&from=R10&BasicSearch=

search.ebay.de/search/...cordsperpage=50&from=R10&BasicSearch=

eine mit 32 mb speicher reicht fuer 2 monitore dicke...
Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK romkla
romkla:

@hotte

 
01.04.04 20:36
#19
danke, morgen nachmittag gehts los.
lg romkla
Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK hotte39
hotte39:

@ Paro & GS! Vielen Dank für Eure ...

 
01.04.04 23:27
#20
frdl. Hilfe/Unterstützung. Interessant der Hinweis zu ebay.

Gruß Hotte
Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK Antoine
Antoine:

Grafikkarte mit 2 Bildschirmanschlüssen

 
02.04.04 00:13
#21
Fast jede neue Grafikkarte hat heute schon zwei Bildschirmanschlüsse. Die meisten haben einen VGA-Anschluß (für einen Röhrenmonitor) und einen DVI-Anschluß (für einen TFT-Monitor). Viele haben 2 VGA-Anschlüsse und nur wenige haben 2 DVI-Anschlüsse.

Nun unterscheidet man grob unter drei 'Grafikkartentypen (Chiphersteller)':

-Die Matroxgrafikkarten sind für den Officebetrieb bzw. für Grafiker ausgelegt und sehr wenig fürs Spielen geeignet (also nicht auf den normalen User zugeschnitten).
-Grafikkarten mit dem Chipsatz von ATI (verschiedene Hersteller z.B.: Abit, Asus, ATI, Club3D, PowerColor und Sapphire). Bieten zwar auch den Dualbetrieb (für 2 Monitore) an, sind aber nicht so gut in dieser Hinsicht.
-Grafikkarten mit dem Chipsatz von nVidia (verschieden Hersteller z.B.: Albatron, AOpen, Asus (bieten beide Chips an), Leadtek, Pixelview, MSI und Gainward). Waren die ersten, die den Dualbetrieb anboten (glaub ich) und sind deshalb ausgereifter (sicherer) als die ATI-Chipsatzgrafikkarten. Bieten zudem mehr Futures an, als die ATI-Chipsatzgrafikkarten (leichter zu händeln).

Wenn man sich eine neue Grafikkarte kaufen möchte, sollte man meiner Meinung nach eine mit nVidia-Chipsatz kaufen.

Jetzt ist nur noch die Frage für welchen Einsatzzweck man einen PC benötigt (!!! z.B. fürs Traden, im Internet surfen, Filme anschauen, Briefe schreiben, PC-Spiele spielen ...), wieviel Platz man hat (PC + Monitor oder Laptop) und wieviel Geld man für den PC ausgeben möchte.

Für das Traden für Aktien benötigt man meines Erachtens nur einen Bildschirm (19-Zoller Röhrenmonitor (besser als 17-Zoller und unwesentlich teurer, Röhrenmonitore brauchen aber viel Platz), welcher schon für 180 EUR zu haben ist).

Nur zur Info: Da ich mir vor zwei Monaten einen neuen PC + 2 Monitore gekauft habe, bin ich mit der Materie bestens vertraut ;-)

Salut
Antoine
Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK geldschneider
geldschneider:

Hier ein Link für TRIN und TICK

 
03.04.04 13:45
#22
www.allstocks.com/realtimestreamquotes.html

Hier gibt man die Aktie ein und rechts findest Du dann Trin und Tick

Nur versteh ich davon noch Bahnhof!
Habe mal ROG eingegeben

Und was sagt mir das dann?
Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK hotte39
hotte39:

@ Antoine! Vielen Dank für Deine Mühe die

 
08.04.04 00:23
#23
Du Dir gemacht hast. Und beim DAX-Zerti-Traden, wie sieht es da aus? Müssen
da nicht mehr Indikatoren, Charts usw. im Blick sein? Anfänger wie ich sollten eh erst mal mit Zertis auf Einzelwerte beginnen.

Gruß Hotte
Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK hotte39
hotte39:

@ Monsieur Antoine!

 
09.04.04 00:17
#24
Je n'ai pas tout compris.

Bonne nuit!

Hotte
Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK Antoine
Antoine:

@hotte39

 
13.04.04 08:49
#25
Am Anfang reicht wirklich erstmal ein Bildschirm, auch zum Traden von Zertifikaten.
Wenn man einen 19-Zoller verwendet sind die einzelnen Fenster 'klein' genung, um mehrere auf dem Desktop anzeigen zu lassen (bei einer Auflösung von 1280 x 1024).
Das Geld für den zweiten Bildschirm kann man getrost zum Handeln verwenden.

Salut
Antoine
Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK hotte39
hotte39:

Merci bien, Antoine!

 
13.04.04 20:53
#26
Gruß Hotte
Daytrading Werkzeuge: TRIN, VIX & TICK Parocorp

up, lange ist es her... o. T.

 
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