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Geithner: China backs efforts to fight downturn BEIJING (AP) -- The global economy is showing "early signs of stabilization" due to action by the United States and China to end its worst slump in decades, U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said Tuesday. The two governments announced they would launch new high-level talks the week of July 27, reviving a dialogue carried on under the former U.S. administration and broadening the agenda to include foreign policy concerns. Geithner said that in two days of talks, Chinese officials recognized the need to move aggressively to revive growth and stabilize the banking system even at the cost of higher U.S. government budget deficits. "I think we've already demonstrated the capacity of our two countries to work together on the global stage to lay a foundation for economic recovery," Geithner said in a meeting with President Hu Jintao as he wrapped up his visit. "And I think partly because of the strengths of the actions put in place by your government and by President Obama we're starting to see some early signs of stabilization and recovery in the global economy." China is the largest owner of U.S. Treasury securities and Geithner assured Chinese leaders that President Barack Obama was committed to tackling soaring budget deficits that have stirred unease about the value of Beijing's holdings. Premier Wen Jiabao roiled financial markets in March when he expressed concern about the safety of China's holdings of U.S. government debt. In the public part of a meeting Tuesday with Geithner, Wen made no mention of the comments, which raised worries over rising U.S. budget deficits and possibly higher interest rates that might choke off a recovery in the United States. The reception Geithner received seemed to show that the governments of the world's largest and third-largest economies were determined to cooperate to combat the downturn. Hu thanked Geithner for developing good relations with his Chinese counterparts and taking action to end the financial crisis. "What I sense is a fair amount of confidence in the dynamism of the U.S. economy, that we will solve this crisis and go back to living within our means," Geithner said in a meeting with reporters. He delivered the same message to Chinese media. The treasury secretary said he assured Chinese officials that the administration was determined to bring down deficits once the crisis has passed. "We are very committed to make sure that when recovery is established, that we go back to living within our means, that we bring our fiscal deficits down to a sustainable level, that we unwind and reverse these exceptional measures that we've taken in the financial sector," Geithner said in an interview with Chinese state television. In an interview with the China Daily newspaper, Geithner praised the actions taken by the Federal Reserve. Geithner said Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke had done an "enormously impressive job in the worst financial crisis in decades." Chinese officials did not comment publicly on Geithner's reassurances. China owns $768 billion of Treasury securities, about 10 percent of America's publicly held debt, making China America's largest creditor. The Obama administration has projected that its aggressive moves to fight the deficit with a $787 billion economic stimulus program and shore up the banking system with a $700 billion bailout fund would push this year's budget deficit to $1.84 trillion, four times the previous single-year record. Geithner insisted in his interviews that recent increases in the interest rates investors were demanding to hold U.S. Treasury securities were not a sign of investor unease but a reflection of improving economic conditions. On Monday, Geithner met with Vice Premier Wang Qishan to discuss upcoming the July talks in Washington. They are to be led on the U.S. side by Geithner and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton. Geithner stressed during his visit that the Obama administration was interested in forging a cooperative relationship with China. He emphasized areas of agreement and played down disputes over trade and currency.Geithner says global economy shows 'signs of stabilization'
due to US, Chinese actions
"Bis dahin sind die Chinesen dann noch stärker exportabhängig und werden unter Garantie dann den Bach runter gehen. Eventuell ziehen sie dann auch, wie vormals Japan, in den Krieg"
Da ist bestimmt ein reichlich wahres Fünkchen hinter: während wir hier oben auf unserem superkomfortablen Wohlstandsniveau locker mal eben ein paar dicke % negatives BSP wegstecken können, sieht das bei den Chinesen schon anders aus.
Der Straubhaar vom Hamburger HWWI (?), ein wirtschaftlich/politisch kluger Mann, denn immerhin kommt er aus der Schweiz ;-), hatte mal gesagt, dass er für die nächsten Jahrzehnte mit einem Auseinanderbrechen von China rechnet. Das mag - falls es überhaupt passiert - so friedlich wie bei der Tchechoslowakei zugehen, muss es aber wahrlich nicht.
Insofern gibt es auch aus einer solchen ernsthafteren Betrachtung (als meiner letzten) eine Reihe von Volten, durch die das Schicksal unsere mentalen Parametrierungen ziemiich ändern könnte.
Aber spannend bleibt es immer ;-)
Hier doch noch einmal eine FX-fokussierte Analyse der Jungs von BNY. Leider sind das Tommies und die haben ein furchtbar mühsam zu lesendes geradezu Shakespeareskes Englisch. Aber IMHO lohnt es sich.
Mein Summary im Augenblick ist:
a) ein schwacher USD scheint mir nicht, wie manche denken mögen, für die USA egal. Das ist nicht mehr wie vor 20 Jahren,
b) fiskalisches und monetäres Easing können nicht mehr aufgestockt werden, vor allem nicht zusammen, ja müssen im Sinne der Geithner-Kommittments vielleicht sogar etwas begrenzt werden. Salopper ausgedrückt: das beliebte PPT muss sich etwas beschränken,
c) aus den BNY "custodial flow data" geht anscheinend hervor, dass die USD-Schwäche durch Investment-Abflüsse entstanden ist und entsteht. Daraus könnte man IMHO möglicherweise schliessen, dass die SPX-Stärke wohl nur von innen (also aus USA heraus) getragen wird, also nicht von externen Investoren. In Kombination mit Überlegung b) könnte das aber nicht mehr einseitig ("ohne Rücksicht auf Verluste") weiter gepusht werden.
d) mal etwas gradliniger ausgedrückt: bei den Jungs da drüben kneift's doch ziemlich ;-)
Mein Eindruck festigt sich, dass die Rallye in SPX oder Dax nicht mehr so furchtbar viel Luft hat. Ich werde bei ca. 5'300..5'400 noch mal moderat nachverkaufen und trotz peinvoll auflaufender Verluste bis knapp über 6'000 durchhalten. Vielleicht tröstet's ja jemanden ;-)
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Clearly, there are a number of interested parties in Timothy Geithner’s professed desire for a stronger USD. However, Mr Geithner’s objective lies beyond a number of hurdles that are possibly insurmountable in the short-to-medium term.
The means by which Mr Geithner has proffered assurances over the USD to his Chinese hosts these past two days has centred upon the Treasury’s will to “do anything [it needs] to do to make sure that [it] brings down [the US’] fiscal deficits and improve the strength of the US economic fundamentals.” However, the market’s implicit scepticism over the credibility of any commitment in this regard is entirely understandable. Retrenchment in fiscal stimuli would be a risk-laden and premature proposition in the face of a financial and economic crisis whose ultimate scale and legacy has yet to be appreciated.
No doubt Mr Geithner’s assurances would therefore centre on the longer-term; but even then, there are inherent risks in airing plans for belt-tightening in the current environment. The hazy concept of Ricardian Equivalence suggests that consumers discount their future tax liabilities thereby offsetting the interim spending or tax incentive. Whether or not this is deemed realistic, the risks of derailing recovery on this front are not to be taken lightly. After all, readers may well recall the Hashimoto government’s decision to hike the Japanese sales tax in 1996 which had catastrophic consequences for the country’s embryonic recovery.
As a means to shore-up the USD, monetary policy appears to be no better prospect than fiscal policy. After all, with a policy of quantitative easing currently in train, it would be illogical to expect the FOMC to entertain tighter monetary policy any time soon. Note Dallas Fed President Richard Fisher comments on Friday for example: Mr Fisher said that the US economy will not recovery in a “meaningful” way before the end of this year and that deflation remains a risk in this climate – hardly the basis for any tightening in policy. Yet, even in the event that the levers of US economic power were freed-up any time soon, it is by no means certain that this would necessarily rekindle the interests of international investors.
After all, to focus squarely on the negative forces being brought to bear upon the USD would be to ignore positive developments in a number of markets around the world that are underpinning the greenback’s counterparts. Indeed, the Bank of New York Mellon’s custodial flow data are enlightening in this regard. Certainly, the data show that the USD’s downtrend – which resumed in earnest in mid-to-late April - coincided with the onset of a modest outflow from US fixed income assets that continues to this day. However, the data show that this point also marked the beginning of a steady rise in foreign interest in a number of emerging equity markets (one of which happens to be South Korea, which places today’s reserve data in an interesting light – see Headlines).
Hence, mid-April saw, not so much a flight from the USD it seems, but an expressed preference for assets which greater yield-enhancement potential. Coupled with the constraints on the domestic policy front in the US, this simple observation sheds further light on the degree of difficulty Mr Geithner faces in securing a stronger USD if the US Treasury is not to resort to other, more direct means of proffering support.
für den US-Housing- und Kredit-Markt (siehe Artikel von Farrell, unten).
Mortgage Rates Balloon
By Tony Crescenzi
Street.com Contributor
6/2/2009 10:28 AM EDT
Treasury yields have been rising for months (Chart unten - A.L.), but their rise did not cause any dislodging of the private credit markets as yields on corporate bonds and mortgage securities fell.
Part of the reason is the Federal Reserve's promise to purchase up to $1.25 trillion of mortgage securities and $200 billion of agency securities. Thus far the Fed has purchased about $425 billion of mortgage securities and $80 billion of agency securities.
Until last week, the Fed's purchases were enough to keep investors in the game so to speak, but the rise in Treasury yields became so great that the dam broke and mortgage rates began to climb. The increase, which will be tabulated by Freddie Mac (FRE) in its weekly rate survey, could well be about three-eighths to a half percentage point.
We know this by tracking the actively traded mortgage-backed securities. For example, the Fannie Mae (FNM) 4.0% mortgage-backed securities hovered around 4% for months before its yield climbed to about 4.5% -- all in a week's time.
The Fannie 4.5% coupon has moved from about 4.1% to about 4.6%. Consumer rates track MBS rates very closely and the 4.0% coupon is the one that was mirroring consumer rates most.
Market Commentary
Rise in Rates Could Quash Recovery
By Vincent Farrell Jr., Street.com
6/2/2009 5:12 AM EDT
...Corporate profits in the U.S. for the first quarter were up $42.6 billion to $1.307 trillion. While that is off 18% from a year ago and off about 25% from the record $1.713 trillion recorded in the third quarter of 2006, $1.3 trillion is a lot of money. The gain, however, was due to the snapback of financial profits (up 94%), and non-financial earnings were off (think the auto companies). It looks more likely to me that earnings for this year will be above the $50 level that I think is the median estimate. If the S&P 500 were to earn, say, $55 for this year, the market at its current level of 945-ish would be at 17.2 times, which strikes me as fully valued.
I know that at the beginning of recoveries commodities have rallied -- the Reuters/Jefferies CRB commodities index is up more than 18% this year -- and that bond yields have always risen. But I am worried that the rise in Treasury yields could torpedo a recovery. At interest rates of 4.5%, every 30-year mortgage could theoretically be refinanced (from an interest-rate perspective the mortgage could be underwater). At 4.75% rates, Credit Suisse says 87% are refinanceable, but at 5.25%, the number drops to 43%. With the 10-year Treasury back to 3.7%, mortgage rates will be north of 5.5% and the hoped-for consumer reliquification will be stunted. Also, gasoline is back above $2.50, up 55% on the year, and the auto shutdowns are almost sure to cause a rise in unemployment claims.
And where is the volume to support the wonderful move we have had in the market? I have been wrong (again!) to have turned cautious, but low-volume breakouts have often been sucker's bets in the past. A nice overbought rally does set the bar higher, though, and while I expect a consolidation, it will come from a higher level than I thought and the likely retest level will be higher as well (Farrell hatte in früheren Posting die Zone von 780 bis 820 im SPX als Korrekturziel genannt.)
Aktuell liegt der Zinsrendite der 30-jährigen US-Staatsanleihen, die die Vorgaben für Hypokredite liefern, bei 4,5 %. Laut Farrell (oben) gibt es ab 5,25 % Rendite Probleme für den US-Housingmarkt. Wenn die US-Longbonds-Rendite ($UST30Y) im bisherigen Tempo weitersteigt, ist die Marke von 5,25 % in etwa fünf Wochen erreicht.
Anders als die Chinesen sind die Ruskies wohl doch etwas "behind the curve". Vielleicht liegt's ja daran, dass da auf allen Ebenen der Wodka immer in Strömen fliesst...
Auf jeden Fall: wenn das der Grund hinter dem letzten USD-Verfall war, dann gewinne ich erhebliche Konfidenz, dass EUR/USD auf keinen Fall mehr an die 1.50 herankommt ;-)
The EUR/USD and GBP/USD soared over two big figures higher today following remarks from Russian President Medvedev that a new supranational reserve currency could reduce the global economy's vulnerability to USD instability. The EUR/USD rose as high as 1.4331 from 1.4125 following Medvedev's remarks, while the cable surged as high as 1.6596 from lows of the session at 1.6326. USD weakness was broad-based, with the greenback losing ground against fellow carry-trade funding currency the JPY. USD/JPY fell as low as 95.33 from 96.60 in early New York trading. As the greenback fell, USD-denominated commodities turned in a mixed performance. Gold ended the session 2.5% higher, while crude oil was -0.3% lower. Risk tolerance remained high throughout the session, bolster by a US pending home sales report that came in stronger than expected. Global equity markets were mixed, largely trading sidewise, with the Dow up +0.2%, the FTSE down -0.7% and both the German DAX and French CAC flat.
Russia: President Dmitry Medvedev said that a there was a need for more reserve currencies, the RUB could eventually become a reserve currency [;-] and a new supranational currency could lay the foundation for a more stable global monetary system. "We need some kind of universal means of payment, which could create the basis of a future international financial system," Medvedev said. He added that "naturally, because of the crisis in the American economy, the attitude towards the USD has also changed" and "it's our idea, and our Chinese colleagues support it." A "precursor" to a supranational currency already exists in the form of the IMF's special drawing rights (SDRs), Medvedev said. The G20 did not discuss the proposal at its last meeting, because it was a matter "for the future."
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