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Goldman Sachs Emails: We Made Money On The Housing Collapse. Aren't We Clever? 26 comments By Susie Madrak  goldmansachs_1d8bc.jpg  My mother used to quote my nana's favorite sayings, and one of them was, "The fishmonger never yells 'Rotten fish for sale!'" Nana, of course, didn't understand that with the right financial instruments, the fishmongers could not only sell rotten fish, they could make quite a bundle of money on the back end by explaining to selected people that they were indeed selling rotten fish:      As homeowners were falling behind on their subprime mortgages, wreaking havoc for investors that owned slices of their mortgages in securities peddled by Wall Street, Goldman Sachs was "well positioned," according to internal company emails from top executives.      The firm had "the big short," declared chief financial officer David Viniar -- Goldman Sachs was making money off the souring of the very securities it had peddled to the market.      The internal emails released Saturday by the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations paint a picture long known by most of the country, yet never before so vividly and explicitly articulated by Goldman officials. (Scroll down to see the full text of the emails.) As early as May 2007, as homeowners were being crushed under the weight of subprime mortgages, the most profitable firm on Wall Street had long taken out a form of insurance on those delinquencies.      The firm made money on the upside -- originating, securitizing and selling subprime mortgage-based securities to investors -- and on the downside, thanks to the insurance.      "Bad news," a May 17, 2007, email began from one Goldman employee to another. A security the firm had underwritten and sold had just lost value, costing Goldman about $2.5 million.      Further down in the email, the employee, Deeb Salem, wrote "Good news...we own 10mm protection...we make $5mm."

The firm made $5 million betting against the very securities it had underwritten and sold.

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Zu Posting: #187527

Durch die Releaseerteilung sind alle Parteien aus der Schußlinie.

NUr für die beteiligten Parteien gilt das:

JPM,FDIC,Hedgies usw.

Aber nicht für Goldman und andere. <----  nicht direkt daran beteiligt.

Wie immer, meine pers. Meinung

odin

"alle Parteien" ist doch recht pauschal, findest du nicht?

Durch die Releaseerteilung sind die Parteien aus der Schusslinie, die im GSA festgehalten sind. Goldmansachs z. B. ist da meines Wissens nicht dabei. Gegen sie (und andere "dritte" = nicht in diesen BK-Fall involvierte) könnte (Achtung: Konjunktiv! könnte)also durchaus rechtlich vorgegangen werden.

... Release wurdenausschließlich erteilt an die Parteien dieses BK Falls.

Willst du mir im Ernst erzählen, erteilte Release würden Pauschal gelten für "alle Bankster" der amerikanischen Finanzindustrie? Komm schon, das ist doch absoluter Schwachsinn!

Klagen kann natürlich jede Einzelperson (kostet halt ne Stange Geld), bzw. natürlich die ReorgWMI ...

(das EC natürlich nicht, daß wird nach Abschluss des Falles aufgelöst)

Gruß Bombo

P.S.: muss hier jetzt abbrechen, da ich nen Termin habe ...