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Feldberg58:

Die Bemühungen der US Regierung:

4
24.02.11 19:24
Also, the bank failures have set a consolidation trend in the industry. When Washington Mutual was in the red in 2008 and was branded as the largest bank failure in the U.S. history, it was acquired by JPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM: 45.56 -0.40 -0.87%). The other major acquirers of failed institutions since 2008 include U.S. Bancorp (USB: 27.47 -0.05 -0.18%) and BB&T Corporation (BBT: 27.53 -0.16 -0.58%).

If the current pace of consolidation continues, we will see the emergence of a handful of large banks. As a result, the overall economy will not remain unscathed and job creation will become vulnerable.

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odin10de:

Ich vermisse nenough, Tokatci, wolle usw.

6
24.02.11 19:29
Die werden sich doch wohl nicht im Urlaub sein.

Isch doch richtisch oder ??
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Canon:

alle von rospfandelft mundtot gemacht...

5
24.02.11 19:43
`:´  "Gentleman-Spekulant"  `:´
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whiskyandcok.:

Which Gurus Had Positive Returns From 2008 To 2010

 
24.02.11 19:43

 Here are some observations. Among all Gurus, hedge fund giant David Tepper had the highest return. His hedge fund Appaloosa Investment LP I had the total return of 108%, more than doubled the money. His fund lost 26% in 2008, which is lower than the market loss by more than 10%. 

www.gurufocus.com/news.php

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                                                                                                    A.Kostolany.
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lander:

Viv's Thoughts On Bet's Letter... (Yahoo Board)

6
24.02.11 20:04
messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_(A_to_Z)/...;tof=6&frt=2

Zitat deargeni:

Since_ El_ Juez_ is_ a_ Judge_ (from_ GB, aka Viv here), I_ think_ his_ thoughts_ deserve_ it's_ own_ thread. With_ his_ permission_ of course._

Bettina,_ whoever_ you_ are,_ excellent,_ excellent_ work!_ Thank_ you_ so_ much._

The_ subject_ matter_ of_ this_ motion/request_ has_ been_ kicked_ around_ on_ the_ boards_ for_ a_ long_ time,_ and_ the_ motion/request_ itself_ is_ long_ overdue_ and_ could_ make_ a_ significant_ difference_ as_ it's_ a_ very_ big_ chunk_ of_ change._ Up_ to_ now_ nobody_ else_ has_ had_ any_ sufficient_ motivation_ to_ bring_ this_ to_ the_ court's_ attention:_ (1)_ WMI,_ the_ noteholders_ and_ the_ rest_ of_ the_ co-conspirators_ wanted_ to_ keep_ a_ lid_ on_ it_ in_ order_ to_ serve_ their_ secret_ plan,_ while_ (2)_ the_ EC_ has_ been_ too_ busy_ with_ bigger_ fish_ and_ fighting_ fires_ to_ go_ off_ in_ this_ direction_ yet,_ and_ (3)_ Judge_ W_ isn't_ going_ to_ know_ about_ or_ be_ able_ to_ acknowledge_ the_ issue_ unless_ it's_ specifically_ brought_ to_ her_ attention._ (Please_ always_ remember:_ This_ isn't_ Italy_ or_ some_ other_ country_ where_ a_ judge_ acts_ as_ a_ quasi-prosecutor._ We_ have_ an_ "adversarial"_ system_ where_ the_ court_ can_ only_ respond_ to_ issues_ raised_ by_ the_ parties,_ not_ initiate_ action_ on_ his/her_ own.)_ IMHO_ Judge_ Walrath_ will_ take_ this_ very_ seriously,_ just_ as_ she_ took_ Nate_ Thoma's_ and_ Dan_ Hoffman's_ issues_ very_ seriously._ Based_ on_ how_ she's_ responded_ in_ the_ past_ to_ intelligent,_ well-documented_ grassroots_ complaints,_ I_ believe_ Rosen_ and_ Co._ will_ be_ called_ upon_ very_ soon_ to_ address_ to_ these_ issues_ to_ the_ court's_ satisfaction._ In_ fact,_ this_ issue_ is_ so_ substantial_ it_ could_ theoretically_ unhinge_ the_ entire_ POR_ 6.xx,_ since_ it_ could_ undermine_ the_ fundamental_ assumptions_ upon_ which_ it_ is_ based._

Stay_ tuned."_

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messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_(A_to_Z)/...;frt=2&off=1

Zitat von Bopfan dazu:

Viv is absolutely correct: Bettina's letter is dynamite, and with a personal appearance in court (I believe she said she would do this) this line of inquiry will be potentially fatal to WMI's plan.

Viv is gentler on the EC than I can be, as addressing this point should have been easy for them given PJS' involvement and it's absence from the objection to confirmation was inexcusable.
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MfG.L:)
"Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens"
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VanDelft:

@ Polytour

5
24.02.11 20:15
eins noch ganz kurz.

Polytour, Du schreibst: "...... Ich warne ausdrücklich davor VD und Pfandbrief auch nur 1 SEKUNDE zu vertrauen!........."

Recht hast Du, Poytour, man sollte so Typen wie mir nicht eine einzige Sekunde vertrauen (obwohl es sich finanziell irgendwie ziemlich gelohnt hätte, mir zu vertrauen und dieses Vertrauen einigen Leuten hier bei WMI ein paar Hunderttausend Dollar gebracht hat).

Man sollte lieber Dir (!) und Deinen Gesinnungsgenossen vertrauen, denn Du schreibst ja am 10.02.11 (ja, richtig gelesen, Polytour schrieb dies im Jahr 2011, nicht nur im Jahr 2008 oder 2009) auf WO das Folgende:

1.:
".......Ich rechne nach wie vor mit 8$/shre bei den Commons (WAMUQ)!!!
DAS IST FAKT!......."

und

2.:
"...........8 x 3 = 24$/Share, mir reichen 8$/Share Das ist noch inoffiziell gerechnet!!!......"



Du bist schon ein besonders "anständiger und fairer" Mensch, gelle, Polytour ?

Da kann man irgendwie sogar froh darüber sein, daß nicht die gesamte Welt so "anständig und fair" wie Du ist.

VanDelft
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DerBärliner:

odin10de

6
24.02.11 20:23
kein wunder... hier haben andere das ruder übernommen.. ich kann die angesprochenen verstehen hier nicht mehr zu schreiben.. das forum hat sich ja nun total verändert.. am anfang war das hier noch unsere spielwiese.. vorbei... es scheint als hätten sie (pfanddelft) ihr ziel erreicht..

glücklicher macht euch das sicher auch nicht.. aber dafür gibt es sicher boni..
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zion666:

@lander / Bettina's letter

 
24.02.11 20:25
Hast du einen Link zu "Bettina's letter"? Danke!

Schönen Gruß
Zion
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Abkassierer:

Pfui

7
24.02.11 20:27
Der ganze negative Brei ist von WO übergeschwappt
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Polytour:

Du rechnest mit 0,0000000000000000001€!

8
24.02.11 20:29
...und ich weiterhin mit 8$/share!

Wie es ausgeht weiß Keiner!!!

Wahrscheinlichkeiten, Erfahrungswerte, Zufälligkeiten....oder gar Wunder?

Ja, ich glaube an Wunder!
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Pinot_Grigio:

Hey Delfi

12
24.02.11 20:31
Du hast noch was vergessen. Hier das Puder für deinen wunden Hintern. Das kommt davon, wenn man sich tagelang vorm Rechner einen Wolf holt. Schmiere dir das mal an deinen Hintern. Das hilft, dass du für den Rest der Woche wieder fit bist.

Gute Besserung!
Wamu WKN 893906 News ! 383849
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blackfrog:

pinot OT

5
24.02.11 20:34
Wundert Dich das? Mich (leider) nicht. War zu erwarten.
Möge der große Frosch mit Euch sein!
Ceterum censeo Pfandi et Delfi ex turmae expellendos esse!!
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4Blatt:

danke

15
24.02.11 20:43
an dieser stelle an plusquam für die begnadigung einer gewissen person.
und danke dafür das wir uns auch noch die andere person antun dürfen.

für mich sind sie grau man merkt jedoch was sie hier erreicht haben.

noch ein letztes danke an dich plusquam
auf deine gruppenzugehörigkeit gehe ich nun nicht auch noch ein...
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willi wong:

Morgen

 
24.02.11 20:46
Morgen sollten doch mal ein paar Infos vom EC kommen .
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lander:

Doc

5
24.02.11 20:58
Notice of Filing Monthly Fee and Services Report of Alvarez & Marsal as Restructuring Advisors for the Debtors and Debtors in Possession for the Period from January 1, 2011 Through January 31, 2011

www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229110223000000000011.pdf

MfG.L:)
"Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens"
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Godssun:

@vandelft

4
24.02.11 21:00
Wiedereinmal weichst du nur aus!!
Es reicht wenn du darauf eingehEn würdest denn das posting ist ja auch zu 99% an dich gerichtet! So und nun die frage wer hier jetzt nicht lesen kann!

Und zu meinem Avatar: soll ich mich jetzt schlapplachen über deinen Kindergarten oder dir erklären wie man deines ändert?

Schmerzen? Pfff träum weiter, der einzige hier mit Schmerzen bist du, denn ich glaube Schizophrenie tut weh! Ich kann damit leben wenn mein Geld weg sein sollte..

Und ab jetzt sprichst du wieder mit der parkuhr
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Pinot_Grigio:

@Godssun

3
24.02.11 21:09
Dein Avatar kann man doch ganz leicht selber bekommen. Zitteraal ins Bett, nächstgelegende Steckdose, oder an den Elektrozaun urinieren. *grins*
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orleon:

Wisst ihr an was mich das hier erinnert!

13
24.02.11 21:18
Vorsicht OT, passt aber denke ich gut in dieses Forum und manchen Usern die in diesem Forum sich betätigen!

Es war ein Mal ein Mächtiger Zauberer, mit fast unendlich viel Wissen, er hatte fast alle Länder seines Kontinentes besucht, konnte Blitze auf seine Feinde werfen, konnte alle Wunden und Krankheiten heilen, und konnte Ilussionen nach belieben herbeirufen, desweiteren war er in der Lage, mächtige Zauber, die den Geist verwirrten zu wirken!

Mit diesem Zauberer reiste ein Ork nicht sonderlich schlau aber Stark!

Bei jeder Gelgenheit zeigte der Magier seinem Wegbegleiter wie Mächtig er war...

Eines Tages, als der Magier wieder dabei war seine Macht und seine Intelligenz seinem Begleiter unter die Nase zu reiben, hatte dieser folgende Frage:

Wenn du so weise und so Mächtig bist, was jeder in diesem Lande weiss, und von dir auch schon oft genug bewiesen wurde, warum zeigst du mir immer auf wie Dumm ich bin...

Wenn du mir immer predigst wie dumm ich bin und du mir trotzdem immer alles vorhälst obwohl du weisst das ich es nicht begreifen kann, warum tust du dies denn immer!

Darauf hin behandelte der Magier seinen Ork, wie einen Menschen!

Die Moral von der Geschichte...

Stelle andere nicht dümmer hin, wie du denkst das sie sind!

Gruß an alle
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Feldberg58:

aus ihub

7
24.02.11 21:20
Actually Lawrence the FDIC does not want any executive of WAMU on the stand, because the damage will be done by the defendants lawyer in questioning and discovery, instead of the FDIC trying to make a case.

Also every case has to go through the court ordered "DISCOVERY" process.. (i.e. 2004/2004-1 in bankruptcy cases)..Every defendant must have the right to question and discover the Plaintiff's evidence and intent of litigation.

FDIC has dodged the bullet of a 2004 so far (Justin Nelson's Kennedy assasination comment on FDIC submittal of papers), but once the FDIC ends up in other courtrooms trying to pursue a settlement from a D&O policy and the Insurance company decides it wants to pursue litigation instead of backing down to the "BIG/BAD" FDIC, then that courtroom and the Judge there is going to find themselves in the same position as THJMW when it comes to allowing discovery motions, which there clearly will be.

FDIC is barking up the wrong tree, acting like they didn't do anything wrong, their hubris and sense of security can be their undoing if the D&O insurance company decides to say NO to settlement, of course the FDIC will delay delay delay all litigation until this case concludes!

They are culpable and I am sure the D&O of WMI knows this, the GSA was designed to release all, but THJMW put a damper on that test. What the FDIC is doing is playing on the little excerpt by THJMW saying "no releases" for any actions pre-BK.

Quote:
Under the Master Mortgage test, the Court finds that there
is no basis whatsoever for the Debtors to grant a release to
directors and officers or any professionals of the Debtors,
current or former. The Debtors may argue that there is an
identity of interest between them and the directors and officers
who served pre-petition because their charter (or by laws)
provide that those parties will be indemnified by the Debtors for
certain claims that may be brought against them by creditors or
shareholders.


Court: There is quite simply no basis for the Debtors’ releases of their directors, officers or professionals.

So someone tell me why would the Board of Directors of WMI still sign off on the Amended GSA? Mull that over, the court rejected their indemnification, so someone explain what is their motivation to still give the estate away?

Things that make you go HUM !!!
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Pjöngjang:

New Court Documents

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24.02.11 21:24
Notice of Docketing re: Clerks Notice Regarding Filing of Appeal [Docket No. 6778]
www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229110224000000000002.pdf

Response Objecting to Debtors Valuation Analysis in the Modified Sixth Amended Plan Filed by Farokh Lam
www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229110224000000000003.pdf

Response Objecting to Debtors Application of Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP as Attorneys for Debtors for Allowance of Compensation for Professional Services Rendered Filed by David Shutvet
www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229110224000000000006.pdf

Letter Requesting Court Action Filed by James D. Harless
www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229110224000000000008.pdf

Response Objecting to the Modified Disclosure Statement Filed by Deekshant Kumar
www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229110224000000000009.pdf

Response Objecting to the Modified Sixth Amended Joint Plan of Affiliated Debtors and Related Proposed Supplemental Disclosure Statement Filed by Kubera Williams
www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229110224000000000010.pdf
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Pjöngjang:

On Billing Over $1,000 an Hour

18
24.02.11 21:36
Unemployment’s at 9 percent. States are slashing their budgets. Twenty-somethings with newly minted JDs are tending bar, not to clients.

Still, as the WSJ’s Vanessa O’Connell reports Wednesday, a group of law-firm lawyers isn’t feeling the effects of the recession one whit.

Some big machers in the U.S. are asking as much as $1,250 an hour, significantly more than in previous years, taking advantage of big clients’ willingness to pay top dollar for certain types of services.

As the WSJ’s Nathan Koppel wrote back in 2007, a few pioneers had raised their fees to more than $1,000 an hour about five years ago, at the peak of the economic boom. But after the recession hit, many of the rest of the industry’s elite were hesitant, until recently, to charge more than $990 an hour.

While companies have cut legal budgets and continue to push for hourly discounts and capped-fee deals with their law firms, many of them have shown they won’t skimp on some kinds of legal advice, especially in high-stakes situations or when they think a star attorney might resolve their problem faster and more efficiently than a lesser-known talent.

Harvey Miller, a bankruptcy partner at New York-based Weil, Gotshal & Manges, said his firm had an “artificial constraint” limiting top partners’ hourly fee because “$1,000 an hour is a lot of money.” It got rid of the cap after studying filings that showed other lawyers surpassing that barrier by about $50.

Today Miller and some other lawyers at Weil Gotshal ask as much as $1,045 an hour. “The underlying principle is if you can get it, get it,” he said.

That said, firms are having a harder time selling rate hikes on their associates.

“Plenty of clients say to me, ‘I don’t have any problems with your rate,’ ” said William F. Nelson, a Washington-based tax partner at Bingham McCutchen, who commands $1,095 an hour, up from $1,065 last year. “But there is price pressure for associates, especially junior lawyers.

So where’s it all headed? Nowhere but up, say law-firm experts. “A thousand dollars an hour was a choke point for some clients,” said Peter Zeughauser, a consultant to law firms. “I don’t think there will be another significant psychological barrier until rates reach $2,000 an hour, which they will do, probably in five to seven years.”
blogs.wsj.com/law/2011/02/23/...feed+%28WSJ.com%3A+Law+Blog%29
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Pjöngjang:

Am Rande

12
24.02.11 21:44
Big Banks Banking Big Bucks

JPMorgan alone pulled in more than one out of every five dollars earned by FDIC-insured banks last quarter. The "over $10 billion club" also scored much, ...
www.fool.com/investing/general/2011/02/24/...ng-big-bucks.aspx
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Pjöngjang:

FDIC Banks: Problems Despite Profit

12
24.02.11 21:46
The number of banks on the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation’s (FDIC) list of problem institutions grew to 884 in the fourth quarter from 860 in the previous quarter, the agencysaid on Wednesday. This is the highest number since the savings and loan crisis in the early 1990s. However, the quarter witnessed strong overall profits by the FDIC insured banks.

Banks that feature on the problem list face imminent failure, though some may survive and pull out of the crisis. As of now, only less than a quarter of banks on FDIC's problem list have actually failed. This ratio, however, is likely to change. While the list is increasing at a slower pace, bank failures are accelerating.

Size of Problem Banks  

Most of the problem banks are small institutions. Total assets of these banks increased to $390 billion in the fourth quarter from $379 billion in the prior quarter, but plummeted from $403 billion reported at the end of 2009.

Bank Failures: Cause and Consequence

There have been 22 bank failures so far this year, preceded by 157 in 2010, 140 in 2009 and 25 in 2008. Increasing loan losses on commercial real estate are expected to result in hundreds of bank failures in the forthcoming years. However, the FDIC does not expect the number of bank failures in 2011 to surpass the 2010 tally.

While the various programs launched by the government worked in favor of the bigger banks, many smaller banks are still struggling to survive. Plunging home prices, lofty loan defaults and a high unemployment rate continue to cloud such institutions.

With the industry absorbing bad loans offered during the credit explosion, the banking system is vulnerable to some severe problems. This is aggravating the risk of bank failures even further.


The Role and Health of FDIC

The FDIC insures deposits in 7,657 banks and savings associations in the country, promoting the safety and soundness of these institutions. Now, the problem banks represent about 11.5% of the total number of institutions covered by the FDIC. When a bank fails, the agency reimburses customers for deposits of up to $250,000 per account.

Though the FDIC has managed to shore up its deposit insurance fund during the last few quarters, the outbreak of bank failures has tested its limits. As of December 31, 2010, the fund remained in the red with a deficit of $7.4 billion, slightly better than a deficit of $8.0 billion in the prior quarter. The agency expects the fund to be in the black later this year.

The FDIC expects bank failures to cost the deposit insurance fund about $100 billion by 2013. So, the agency will have to arrange the amount by that time to avoid a deficit.  

Rising Profitability: A Relief

While the lists of problem and failed banks are stretching, fourth quarter consolidated profit from the FDIC-insured banksreached the second highest level since mid 2007. The consolidated profit of the FDIC-insured banks came in at $21.7 billion during the quarter, significantly better than the loss of $1.8 billion incurred a year earlier.

For full year 2010, banks reported a profit of $87.5 billion compared with a loss of $10.6 billion in 2009 as 67.5% of the FDIC-insured banks reported higher profit. The number of unprofitable institutions decreased to 21.0% from 31.0% in 2009.

The Price of Consolidation

Government efforts have clearly failed to rein in the unemployment problem, with banks still grappling with weak financials.

With so many bank failures, consolidation has become the industry fashion. When Washington Mutual was in the red in 2008 and was branded as the largest bank failure in the U.S. history, it was acquired by JPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM - Analyst Report). The other major acquirers of failed institutions since 2008 include U.S. Bancorp (USB - Analyst Report) and BB&T Corporation (BBT - Analyst Report).

If the current pace of consolidation continues, we will see the emergence of a handful of large banks,exposing the industry to an oligopolistic market. As a result, the overall economy will not remain unscathed.
www.zacks.com/stock/news/48089/...s%3A+Problems+Despite+Profit
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Banks Earned $21.7 Billion in Q4: FDIC

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24.02.11 21:52
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For JPMorgan Chase Bank, NA, the largest subsidiary of JPMorgan Chase (JPM_), fourth-quarter net income was $2.6 billion, improving from $1.9 billion a year earlier. The bank's provision for loan losses was $2.9 billion in the fourth quarter, declining from $4.4 billion during the fourth quarter of 2009

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