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Das ist eine Aufstellug eines Users aus Yahoo zur möglichen Minimalhöhe eines Settlements :)
Sehr interessante Höhe die er da vorrechnet - beitrag schon zwar was älter aber nice ... ;)
" a minimum number for a settlement"
For all the chaps, who ask for a lowball settlement offer, don`t forget, JPM made an offer in march 08 for wmi
+ 6.800 mm for the commons (850 mm shares x $8)
included in the deal was also the assumption of some debt
+ 3.400 mm for the preferreds
+ 13.100 mm for the bank bonds
+ 6.800 mm for the holding bonds
+ 1.400 mm other debt of wmi
+ 31.500 mm would have been the total cost for jpm
in september 08 jpm bought jpm from fdic only wmb for 1.888 mm, without the most liabillities, and wmb had additional
+ 7.200 mm injection from tpg
+ 4.000 mm cayman trust assets
+ 42.700 mm total
take off the
- 7.800 mm losse for wmi for the Q2 and Q3/08
- 1.888 mm price paid to fdic from jpm
makes a total profit for jpm
+ 33.012 mm or 33 billion
this is pure capital, and therefore jpm made unjustified profit with it until now:
33.012 x 20 x 0,04% / 12 = 2.200 per month,
until now x 16
+ 35.200 mm unjustified profit
+ 68.212 mm or $68,2 billion
or jpm made an illegal and unjustified enrichment of $68 billion until now!
And add $2.200 mm every month! And the numbers are from a jpm lowball offer!
And the reversal: some Departures:
-13.100 mm wmb bonds
-5.700 mm wmi bonds
-750 mm wahuq
-3.400 mm preferreds
22.950 mm plus 20% for lost interests or dividends
27.540 mm
40.672 mm, now subtract the 3.000 mm liabilities and you get
37.672 mm or 37,7 billion for a wmi without liabilities. Divide this with 1.705 billion share, and you get:
$22,09 per common share
now, if jpm is willing, to buy wmi, you have to add the tax benefits, ~12 billion and the dillution, if jpm pays with paper. You get $30,14 plus 25% =
$36,6 per share, and that is a 1 jpm against 1 wamuq.
Andt the preseizure holder are not the problem of the EC, they are the problem of jpm. Jpm and their criminal behavior caused the loss, and jpm should pay for it.
For all shares, sold before march 08, a payment of minimum 2/3 of the loss."
Hier der Originallink:
messages.finance.yahoo.com/...p;mid=346457&tof=7&frt=2
Das ist eine Aufstellug eines Users aus Yahoo zur möglichen Minimalhöhe eines Settlements :)
Sehr interessante Höhe die er da vorrechnet - beitrag schon zwar was älter aber nice ... ;)
" a minimum number for a settlement"
For all the chaps, who ask for a lowball settlement offer, don`t forget, JPM made an offer in march 08 for wmi
+ 6.800 mm for the commons (850 mm shares x $8)
included in the deal was also the assumption of some debt
+ 3.400 mm for the preferreds
+ 13.100 mm for the bank bonds
+ 6.800 mm for the holding bonds
+ 1.400 mm other debt of wmi
+ 31.500 mm would have been the total cost for jpm
in september 08 jpm bought jpm from fdic only wmb for 1.888 mm, without the most liabillities, and wmb had additional
+ 7.200 mm injection from tpg
+ 4.000 mm cayman trust assets
+ 42.700 mm total
take off the
- 7.800 mm losse for wmi for the Q2 and Q3/08
- 1.888 mm price paid to fdic from jpm
makes a total profit for jpm
+ 33.012 mm or 33 billion
this is pure capital, and therefore jpm made unjustified profit with it until now:
33.012 x 20 x 0,04% / 12 = 2.200 per month,
until now x 16
+ 35.200 mm unjustified profit
+ 68.212 mm or $68,2 billion
or jpm made an illegal and unjustified enrichment of $68 billion until now!
And add $2.200 mm every month! And the numbers are from a jpm lowball offer!
And the reversal: some Departures:
-13.100 mm wmb bonds
-5.700 mm wmi bonds
-750 mm wahuq
-3.400 mm preferreds
22.950 mm plus 20% for lost interests or dividends
27.540 mm
40.672 mm, now subtract the 3.000 mm liabilities and you get
37.672 mm or 37,7 billion for a wmi without liabilities. Divide this with 1.705 billion share, and you get:
$22,09 per common share
now, if jpm is willing, to buy wmi, you have to add the tax benefits, ~12 billion and the dillution, if jpm pays with paper. You get $30,14 plus 25% =
$36,6 per share, and that is a 1 jpm against 1 wamuq.
Andt the preseizure holder are not the problem of the EC, they are the problem of jpm. Jpm and their criminal behavior caused the loss, and jpm should pay for it.
For all shares, sold before march 08, a payment of minimum 2/3 of the loss."
Hier der Originallink:
messages.finance.yahoo.com/...p;mid=346457&tof=7&frt=2
Nichts geschieht ohne Risiko,aber ohne Risiko geschieht auch nichts....!
