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Forlink Software Zusammenfassungen drubert1
drubert1:

Forlink Software Zusammenfassungen

 
08.02.05 21:40
#1

Forlink Software Zusammenfassungen

Nur für die Zusammenfassungen, zwecks besseren Überblick.
Antworten, Fragen und Diskussionen bitte weiterhin in unserem "Grenke" Thread:

http://www.ariva.de/board/183281/thread.m?secu=1866@ANY

Danke
drubert

...be happy and smile


Forlink Software Zusammenfassungen drubert1
drubert1:

Zusammenfassung vom 16.01.2005

 
08.02.05 21:48
#2
Hi FRLK friends,

just for your information.
My little summary of that, what happend the last 4 month:

  1. Online Trading and Transaction Platform
    Already 2 customer: ssec-steel, gsec, ... and more soon (?).
    Could be easy transfered into other markets. Nice revenue of $250,000 per year and customer.
  2. IPTV and VOD Broadband Operation Platform
    iptv, cctv, china telecom
    My opinion: revenue should be at least the same like 1. , could be a "MONEY-SPINNER" in the future.
  3. Online Game Operation Platform
    gmgame, qianlong
    This is the new counterstrike platform. Revenue ???
    My opinion: Imortant is, that forlink builds up a good reputation  as  ASP (application service provider) in this market. The counterstrike platform will be the key case.
    I do think, they will offer this service to other "online gaming" enterprises. 17games (=China.com) is already a gmgame "for-online" customer. Kingsoft is already forlinks softhouse content provider.
  4. Software Room Operation Platform
    This is forlinks softhouse service, cooperation with content partner like kingsoft, blogchina, ccidnet,...
    Revenue ???
  5. for-online business with all the other smaller and bigger customer
    Customer from Forlink, or  gmgame, ayuan, ...
    Customer are: stacilc, cngas (?), cymould, pabx, gits, ...
    Revenue ???
  6. cec-ceda cooperation (generation of new for-online customer)
    This will be an important cooperation for forlinks business.
  7. Investment (together with newhero) in Calitalk (outsourcing/offshore business)
    I do see this as an add-on. Would be nice, to generate some revenue from calitalk soon. I don't care if not.

And, there are the 2 big rumours:

  1. Beijing Mobile
    The New BOSS upgrade phrase 3 project, a 30 million US$ project ?
  2. Agricultural Bank
    ???

I think it's a lot of new stuff from the last 4 month.

Forlink Software Zusammenfassungen 1806106 drubert

Forlink Software Zusammenfassungen drubert1
drubert1:

cec-ceda Zusammenfassung, 08.02.2005

 
08.02.05 22:04
#3

cec-ceda and forlink:

  1. Since August 2004 cec-ceda is one of the major links on forlinks new websites.
  2. November 2004, forlink is one of cec-cedas 3 cooperation partner:
    http://www.cec-ceda.org.cn/ (cec-cedas new website)
  3. The other 2 are:
    http://www.cybercast.com.cn/ (100 % owened by cec-ceda ???)
    http://www.mfund365.com/ (venture capital company ???)
  4. Identical content at:
    1) http://www.cec-ceda.org.cn/einfo/info-jianzhan.htm = http://www.for-online.com/site_intro.html 
    2) http://www.cec-ceda.org.cn/einfo/info-youxiang.htm = http://www.for-online.com/mail_intro.html
    3) http://www.cec-ceda.org.cn/einfo/info-duanxin.htm = http://www.for-online.com/sms_intro.html
  5. Since 2005-02-04 cec-ceda is listed as for-online customer, with "for-online" mail service
    http://mail.cec-ceda.org.cn/
    Before that cec-cedas "mail" page was identical with cec-cedas homepage. This is important to understand the following context.

cec-ceda related websites:

fchina seems to be cec-ceda and under construction (seems to be build by forlink, because of cec-ceda "mail" page)
The other are related with cec-ceda but no forlink customer (but we should watch them).

http://www.fchina.org/
http://mail.fchina.org/
http://www.cec-ceda.org.cn/fchina/

http://www.cenn.cn ( with cec-ceda's telefone number: (010)68427606 )
http://www.cennews.com.cn (= http://www.cenn.cn )
http://www.cpmq.org.cn/zl/down/zd/www_02.doc  
http://www.radfort.com/news/media/200401118.htm

http://www.dbqy.net/
http://mail.dbqy.net/
(= http://www.cenn.cn )

http://www.cz-ec.net/ (see logo, different mail service)
http://www.cenonline.net.cn/ (see logo, old website, different mail service)

http://www.aec-aeda.org.cn/(see logo)
http://www.whec.org.cn/ (see logo and links)

Other enterprises with "cec-ceda" mail page:

This are enterprises with a "cec-ceda" mail page. I am sure, that this are new forlink customer. We should watch them, the mail service should move to "for-online", like cec-ceda last week.

http://www.ntg.com.cn
http://mail.ntg.com.cn  

http://www.peg.com.cn/
http://mail.peg.com.cn/

http://csjixie.com/
http://www.csjixie.com/ (german schenck group)
http://mail.csjixie.com/

http://tian-shuo.com/
http://www.tian-shuo.com (old)
http://mail.tian-shuo.com/

And a lot "iin" pages with "cec-ceda" mail page:

This are enterprises with a "cec-ceda" mail page. "iin.cn" seems to be a new domain. I am sure, that this are new forlink customer. We should watch them, the mail service should move to "for-online", like cec-ceda last week.

http://www.book.iin.cn
http://mail.book.iin.cn/

http://www.cax.iin.cn/  
http://mail.cax.iin.cn/ 

http://www.chinacommercial.iin.cn/
http://mail.chinacommercial.iin.cn/

http://www.hljqy.iin.cn/
http://mail.hljqy.iin.cn/

http://www.gz-ec.iin.cn 
http://mail.gz-ec.iin.cn/

http://www.zyjlr.iin.cn (=http://www.cpmq.org.cn/ !)
http://mail.zyjlr.iin.cn/

http://www.xxglasses.iin.cn
http://mail.xxglasses.iin.cn

http://zhxp.iin.cn/ (= fchina ? See footer )
http://math80.iin.cn/ (= fchina ? See footer )

Forlink Software Zusammenfassungen 1806150 drubert

...be happy and smile

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forlink / gmgame "for-online" tele-services

 
08.02.05 22:17
#4
Drubert1   22.11.04 08:11


forlink / gmgame "for-online" tele-services     

Zusammenfassung der Partner zum Forlink/Gmgame tele-service http://tele.gmgame.com .

Bisherige Vertriebskanäle/Partner beim (forlink/gmgame) "for-online" Geschäft:
1) http://www.ayuan.com
2) http://www.ysp.cn/diannet/  (=ayuan)
3) http://www.chinayesanpo.com/diannet/  (=ayuan)
4) http://www.renjiandao.com/dd/index.htm (gmgame in der Fußzeile !)
5) http://www.100-ok.com
6) http://service.qdit.com/index.htm
7) http://www.xdu.cn/webs/ (siehe gmgame logo im Bild!)
8) http://www.euncn.com (=gmgame, siehe Fußzeile)
9) http://www.beijingdesign.cn/
Forlink Software Zusammenfassungen drubert1
drubert1:

104 neue Jobs bei Forlink !!!

 
08.02.05 22:23
#5

Hi friends, 

I did send an email to Forlinks IR, regarding the 104 open jobs. 

http://www.51job.com/sc/co_all_job.php?coid=(225683) 

Looks good to me:
"As you know, we are a fast growing company in ASP (Application Service Provider), Software outsourcing, as well as telecom vertical. The expansion in these areas and our long-term growth require experienced industry professionals." 

The "Forlink" answer, it's not allowed to Tao to say something:
"The hiring is not necessarily intended for any particular projects." 

He misunderstood my question. But indirect he says, that the 104 open jobs are correct. Sure that most of them are still open, especially from 2005-02-05 :
"I am sorry I can't confirm the number because that changes frequently, but many of the positions listed on http://www.51job.com/sc/co_all_job.php?coid=(225683) are still open."

  Forlink Software Zusammenfassungen 1806210 drubert ...be happy and smile

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Forlink / Calitalk / Outsourcing

 
08.02.05 22:30
#6

Hi XXX,
Yes, Forlink is a software development company in Beijing, Newhero is a system integration company in China, and both of them have invested in CaliTalk. If you have any question, please feel free to call +1-978-418-1516.
Tao Qin

Calitalk - http://www.calitalk.net / http://mail.calitalk.net ( For-Online Kunde !! )

 

 

Forlink Software Zusammenfassungen drubert1
drubert1:

Some background about forlinks gsec deal

 
12.02.05 20:28
#7
MY GSEC BACKGROUNDS FROM 2004-12-13

"in my last summary I wrote:

3.4 Competitor / cooperation (?)
Beijing gold net peaceful and undisturbed information technology limited company (北京金网安泰信息技术有限公司): www.gnnt.com.cn
They developed MEBS "Market Electronic Business Solution" a B2B platform.  They build up a network  of companies/trading platforms running their MEBS application in different markets:  www.ex-silver.com , www.ex-rubber.com/  , www.ex-rapeseed.com , www.chinasugarmarket.com/ , www.ex-steelcn.com and more.
The trading volume at ex-steelcn seems to be low (about 6000 tons/day) compared with ssec-steel (20000 to 40000 tons/day).

Do you remember ?

The news from 2004-12-13 was great, because the customer is "Guangxi Sugar Exchange Center" !!!

Guangxi Sugar Exchange Center =  
www.gsec.com.cn = www.chinasugarmarket.com/ !!!
Forlink did win the customer from gnnt !!!
gsec was gnnt's customer No. 1, see suc_cases_1 at www.gnnt.com.cn/suc_cases_1.htm !!!
They had a 5 years contract with gnnt starting 1999 !!!

Who is the next ???

Just have a look at:

1) www.ex-starch.com/
2) www.ex-rubber.com/
3) www.ex-steelcn.com/
4) www.ex-silver.com/
5) www.ex-pepper.com/
6) www.ex-rapeseed.com/
7) www.ex-cp.com/
8) www.cottonchina.org/
9) www.ex-grain.cn/
10) www.ex-market.cn/ (HME)

I believe it's ex-starch, see www.gnnt.com.cn/suc_cases_3.htm !"

:-)
drubert

Forlink Software Zusammenfassungen drubert1
drubert1:

Some background about forlinks gsec deal

 
12.02.05 20:42
#8

MY GSEC BACKGROUNDS FROM 2004-12-13

"in my last summary I wrote:

3.4 Competitor / cooperation (?)
Beijing gold net peaceful and undisturbed information technology limited company (北京金网安泰信息技术有限0844;司): http://www.gnnt.com.cn
They developed MEBS "Market Electronic Business Solution" a B2B platform.  They build up a network  of companies/trading platforms running their MEBS application in different markets:  http://www.ex-silver.com , http://www.ex-rubber.com/  , http://www.ex-rapeseed.com , http://www.chinasugarmarket.com/ , http://www.ex-steelcn.com and more.
The trading volume at ex-steelcn seems to be low (about 6000 tons/day) compared with ssec-steel (20000 to 40000 tons/day).

Do you remember ?

The news from 2004-12-13 was great, because the customer is "Guangxi Sugar Exchange Center" !!!

Guangxi Sugar Exchange Center =  
http://www.gsec.com.cn = http://www.chinasugarmarket.com/ !!!
Forlink did win the customer from gnnt !!!
gsec was gnnt's customer No. 1, see suc_cases_1 at http://www.gnnt.com.cn/suc_cases_1.htm !!!
They had a 5 years contract with gnnt starting 1999 !!!

Who is the next ???

Just have a look at:

1) http://www.ex-starch.com/
2) http://www.ex-rubber.com/
3) http://www.ex-steelcn.com/
4) http://www.ex-silver.com/
5) http://www.ex-pepper.com/
6) http://www.ex-rapeseed.com/
7) http://www.ex-cp.com/
8) http://www.cottonchina.org/
9) http://www.ex-grain.cn/
10) http://www.ex-market.cn/ (HME)

I believe it's ex-starch, see http://www.gnnt.com.cn/suc_cases_3.htm !"

:-)
drubert

Forlink Software Zusammenfassungen drubert1
drubert1:

Chinese is not a secrecy

 
20.02.05 19:21
#9
just translate Chinese websites or website content by Altavista:

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

Please do the following things:

1) install your windows Chinese speech extensions (simple and traditional)
2) I had the best success by "copy and paste" the Chinese content.
3) paste the content into altavista's edit box
4) translate from "Chinese simple" to "English" (older content might be better translated with "Chinese traditional" to "English").

The translation of proper names and company names might be funny. Please try to translate them yourselve, for example "时力科技 = forlink" and "时力在线 = for-online".

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drubert
Forlink Software Zusammenfassungen drubert1
drubert1:

Searching the Chinese internet .. is not a secrecy

 
05.03.05 20:45
#10

Main search engines are:

  1. http://cn.websearch.yahoo.com
  2. http://www.baidu.com
  3. http://www.google.com (no Chinese specific domain necessary)

Important are the Chinese keywords, you are searching for.
Translate the results with the help of altavista (http://babelfish.altavista.com/).

Samples, regarding Forlink (using http://cn.websearch.yahoo.com):

  1. Use "13910518899", forlinks 24h service number:
    http://cn.websearch.yahoo.com/...ta=vl%3Dlang_zh-CN%26vl%3Dlang_zh-TW
  2. Use "时力杯", regarding gmgames and qianlongs cooperation:
    http://cn.websearch.yahoo.com/...lang_zh-CN%26vl%3Dlang_zh-TW&b=1
  3. Use "时力在线", regarding "for-online":
    http://cn.websearch.yahoo.com/search/...%25C6%25BC%25BC%2522&lang=
  4. Use "时力科技", regarding "forlink"  (take care, 时力科技电.. is not forlink) :
    http://cn.websearch.yahoo.com/search/...5BC%25BC%2522%2B2004&lang=
  5. Use "时力永联科技", regarding "forlink":
    http://cn.websearch.yahoo.com/search/...%25C6%25BC%25BC%2522&lang
  6. ... and so on Forlink Software Zusammenfassungen 1846002

Do the same with google and baidu.
And post your results at ariva!

Forlink Software Zusammenfassungen 1846002 drubert

Forlink Software Zusammenfassungen drubert1
drubert1:

alexa traffic rank

 
15.03.05 08:25
#11

Images should be updated daily (they are linked to alexa):

...be happy and smiletraffic.alexa.com/...house.com.cn/&u=sms.softhouse.com.cn" style="max-width:560px" align=left border=0>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...be happy and smiletraffic.alexa.com/...mp;r=6m&y=r&u=gmgame.com/&u=" style="max-width:560px" align=left border=0>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...be happy and smiletraffic.alexa.com/...amp;r=6m&y=r&u=euncn.com/&u=" style="max-width:560px" align=left border=0>

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Gesamtübersicht Umsatz 2003

 
17.05.05 00:23
#13
Q1 2004 (3 month):
total net sales = 725,836
Sales to customer A = 697,546
Net sales without customer A = 28,290

Q2 2004 (3 month):
total net sales = 5,824,768
Sales to customer A = 5,811,234
Net sales without customer A = 12,934

Q3 2004 (3 month):
total net sales = 1,199,507
Sales to customer A = 1,158,239
Net sales without customer A = 41,268

Q4 2004 (3 month):
total net sales = 1,641,084
Sales to customer A = 1,332,643
Net sales without customer A = 308,441

2004 (12 month):
total net sales = 9,381,197
Sales to customer A = 9,000,264
Net sales without customer A = 390,933

:-) (redi)
Forlink Software Zusammenfassungen redi
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Gesamtübersicht Umsatz 2004

 
17.05.05 00:23
#14


Q4 "net sales without customer A" looks good to me.

Q1 2004 (3 month):
total net sales = 5,528,909
Sales to customer A = 5,322,990 (96%)
Net sales without customer A = 205,919

Q2 2004 (3 month):
total net sales = 585,278
Sales to customer A = 367,051 (63%)
Net sales without customer A = 218,227

Q3 2004 (3 month):
total net sales = 1,387,110
Sales to customer A = 1,173,434 (86%)
Net sales without customer A = 213,676

Q4 2004 (3 month):
total net sales = 2,665,436
Sales to customer A = 2,138,716
Net sales without customer A = 526,720

2004 (12 month):
total net sales = 10,166,733
Sales to customer A = 9,002,191 (89%)
Net sales without customer A = 1,164,542


Customer A (Beijing Mobile) is project business, it can vary from month to month. It depends on the project progress and the paying from beijing mobile.

Net sales derived by 156net (given to forlink):
Q1 2004: 66,123
Q2 2004: 177,892
Q3 2004: 119,067
Q4 2004: 82,890

2004 (12month): 445,972

They got back 445,972 of their 17,6% investment (760,870) in just 12 month.

( by Drubert Anfang April 2005)
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Q1 2005

 
17.05.05 00:26
#15
Q1 2004 (3 month):
total net sales = 652,350
Sales to customer A = 445,889
Net sales without customer A = 206,461

Customer A = Beijing Mobile


Redi
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Q2 2005

 
15.08.05 21:27
#16
Q2 2005 (3 month):
total net sales = 1,629,131
Sales to customer A = 749,400
Net sales without customer A = 879,731
Net sales without customer B = 604,441 (!!!)

Customer A = Beijing Mobile
Customer B = 156net ( 17,8% Forlink)
Forlink Software Zusammenfassungen redi
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da ist ein Fehler drin

 
15.08.05 21:28
#17
soll heissen

Q2 2005 (3 month):
total net sales = 1,629,131
Sales to customer A = 749,400
Net sales without customer A = 879,731
Customer B = 604,441 (!!!)

Customer A = Beijing Mobile
Customer B = 156net ( 17,8% Forlink)  
Forlink Software Zusammenfassungen redi
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Q1/Q2 2005

 
15.08.05 22:35
#18

insgesamt 2005 ( 6 Monaten) :

total net sales = $ 2,281,481  
Sales to customer A = $ 1,209,184
Net sales without customer A = § 1,072,297
Customer B = $ 712,855

Customer A = Beijing Mobile
Customer B = 156net ( 17,8% Forlink)

Vergleich Endabschluss 2004 (12 Monaten) :
total net sales = $ 10,166,733
Sales to customer A = $ 9,002,191 
Net sales without customer A = 1,164,542

Customer B = $ 445,972  

 

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Q3 2005

 
15.11.05 16:48
#19
Q3 2005 (3 month ):
total net sales = $ 3,105,864
Sales to customer A = $ 1,298,432
Net sales without customer A = 879,731
Customer B = $42,360

Customer A = Beijing Mobile
Customer B = 156net ( 17,8% Forlink)  





2005 ( 9 month )

total net sales = $ 5,387,345
Sales to customer A = $ 2,370,432
Net sales without customer A = $ 3,016,913
Customer B = $ $755,215

Customer A = Beijing Mobile
Customer B = 156net ( 17,8% Forlink)
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nochmal ein kl. Fehler ;-)

 
15.11.05 16:58
#20
Q3 2005 (3 month ):
total net sales = $ 3,105,864
Sales to customer A = $ 1,298,432
Net sales without customer A = 1,807,432 (!)
Customer B = $42,360

Customer A = Beijing Mobile
Customer B = 156net ( 17,8% Forlink)  





2005 ( 9 month )

total net sales = $ 5,387,345
Sales to customer A = $ 2,370,432
Net sales without customer A = $ 3,016,913
Customer B = $ $755,215

Customer A = Beijing Mobile
Customer B = 156net ( 17,8% Forlink)



Vergleich Endabschluss 2004 (12 Monaten) :
total net sales = $ 10,166,733
Sales to customer A = $ 9,002,191  
Net sales without customer A = 1,164,542

Customer B = $ 445,972  
Forlink Software Zusammenfassungen drubert1
drubert1:

Net Sales comparison o. T.

 
16.11.05 18:26
#21
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Beijing Mobile ( Kunde A )

 
31.01.07 15:30
#22

Jahr 2001 : 4,097,560$ (80%)
Jahr 2002 : 8,229,159$ (88%)
Jahr 2003 : 8,999,662$ (96%)
Jahr 2004 : 9,002,191$ (89%)
Jahr 2005 : 4,122,370$ (70%)
Jahr 2006 (ohne Q4): 3,686,138$ (75%)



Forlink Software Zusammenfassungen redi
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Umsatz - Übersicht!

 
31.01.07 15:33
#23


Jahr 2001 : 5,148,043$
Jahr 2002 : 9,380,594$
Jahr 2003 : 9,688,124$
Jahr 2004 :10,000,110$
Jahr 2005 : 5,912,323$
Jahr 2006 (ohne Q4): 4,934,378$

Forlink Software Zusammenfassungen drubert1
drubert1:

Net sales o. T.

 
03.04.07 08:20
#24
(Verkleinert auf 60%) vergrößern
Forlink Software Zusammenfassungen 91012
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Zahlen

 
03.04.07 17:29
#25


Beijing Mobile ( Kunde A )
Jahr 2001 : 4,097,560$ (80%)
Jahr 2002 : 8,229,159$ (88%)
Jahr 2003 : 8,999,662$ (96%)
Jahr 2004 : 9,002,191$ (89%)
Jahr 2005 : 4,122,370$ (70%)
Jahr 2006 : 4,244,266$ (61%)

Umsatzübersicht / Gewinn bzw. (Verlust):

Jahr 2001 : 5,148,043$ / 191,223$ Gewinn
Jahr 2002 : 9,380,594$ / (6,085,137$) Verlust
Jahr 2003 : 9,688,124$ / 1,211,448$ Gewinn
Jahr 2004 :10,000,110$ / 468,052$ Gewinn
Jahr 2005 : 5,912,323$ / (1,394,177$) Verlust
Jahr 2006 : 6,917,640$ / 305,494$ Gewinn

156net ( 17,8% Forlink - Kunde B)

Jahr 2003 : 184,000$
Jahr 2004 : 445,972$
Jahr 2005 : 815,493$
Jahr 2006 : 1,952,287$ (!!!)

Umsatz ohne Kunde A und B

Jahr 2003 : 504,462$
Jahr 2004 : 551,947$
Jahr 2005 : 974,460$
Jahr 2006 : 721,087$

 

 

Forlink Software Zusammenfassungen redi
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Da war noch ein kleiner Fehler drin - jetzt aber!

 
03.04.07 17:32
#26

Beijing Mobile ( Kunde A )
Jahr 2001 : 4,097,560$ (80%)
Jahr 2002 : 8,229,159$ (88%)
Jahr 2003 : 8,999,662$ (96%)
Jahr 2004 : 9,002,191$ (89%)
Jahr 2005 : 4,122,370$ (70%)
Jahr 2006 : 4,244,266$ (61%)

Umsatzübersicht / Gewinn bzw. (Verlust):

Jahr 2001 : 5,148,043$ / 191,223$ Gewinn
Jahr 2002 : 9,380,594$ / (6,085,137$) Verlust
Jahr 2003 : 9,688,124$ / 1,211,448$ Gewinn
Jahr 2004 :10,000,110$ / 468,052$ Gewinn
Jahr 2005 : 5,912,323$ / (1,394,177$) Verlust
Jahr 2006 : 6,917,640$ / 305,494$ Gewinn

156net ( 17,8% Forlink - Kunde B)

Jahr 2003 : 184,000$
Jahr 2004 : 445,972$
Jahr 2005 : 815,493$
Jahr 2006 : 721,087$

Umsatz ohne Kunde A und B

Jahr 2003 : 504,462$
Jahr 2004 : 551,947$
Jahr 2005 : 974,460$
Jahr 2006 : 1,952,287$ (!!!)




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Q1 2007

 
#27
Q1 2007 (3 month ):
total net sales = $ 1,242,045
Sales to customer A = $ 611,116
Net sales without customer A = $ 630,928 (!)
Customer B = $ 382,800

Customer A = Beijing Mobile
Customer B = Guangxi Caexpo International Trade and Logistics Co., Ltd

Net Income : $ 232,245


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